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David
Joined: 13 Apr 2011 Posts: 1869 Location: Denver, Colorado
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Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2012 6:15 am Post subject: Rodenstock Enlarger Lenses |
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David wrote:
I picked up three rodenstock enlarger lenses today for a good price -- 1:2.8 50mm, 1:4 80mm, and 1:5.6 135mm. The 50 and 80 are in perfect shape. The 135 has some fine dust on the elements, but it appears it will be easily cleaned.
For those of you who have used Rodenstock Rodagons, what are your opinions? _________________ http://www.youtube.com/user/hancockDavidM |
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pich900
Joined: 10 Jun 2007 Posts: 1745 Location: The Netherlands/Zwolle
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Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2012 6:32 am Post subject: |
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pich900 wrote:
Hi David! I have no idea if they are good enlarger lens but I know they are quite impressive as macro lens ....here for exemple some samples with the 2.8/50mm: http://forum.mflenses.com/enlarger-lens-rodenstock-rodagon-2-8-50mm-on-d700-t50356.html _________________ All my lenses are for sale, nikkor, Angenieux, Zeiss etc.....
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rbelyell
Joined: 13 Oct 2009 Posts: 4269 Location: somewhere in the mountains of central NY
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Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2012 11:53 am Post subject: |
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rbelyell wrote:
i think member Forensail uses them to digitize film and was very happy with them. is that how you plan to use them? if so, i think many would be interested in your planned setup/workflow.
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ForenSeil
Joined: 15 Apr 2011 Posts: 2726 Location: Kiel, Germany.
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Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2012 11:54 am Post subject: |
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ForenSeil wrote:
Do you really have Rodagons and not Rogonars etc.?
If yes you've got very good lenses Congrats!
Only the compareable expensive Focotar-2/Apo-Componon/Apo-Rodagons etc. are better.
Here's a link to an information paper: http://www.rodenstock-photo.com/mediabase/original/e_Rodenstock_Printing_CCD_43-62__8230.pdf
And yes they are known to work very good as macro lenses.
The 80- and 135mm are better for magnifactions from 1:1 to ~1:3 than the 50mm as the 50mm is optimized for higher magnifications. The 50mm could be reversed to reach magnifcations around 4:1 which would be interesting for focus stacking. _________________ I'm not a collector, I'm a tester
My camera: Sony A7+Zeiss Sonnar 55/1.8
Current favourite lenses (I have many more):
A few macro-Tominons, Samyang 12/2.8, Noritsu 50.7/9.5, Rodagon 105/5.6 on bellows, Samyang 135/2, Nikon ED 180/2.8, Leitz Elmar-R 250/4, Celestron C8 2000mm F10
Most wanted: Samyang 24/1.4, Samyang 35/1.4, Nikon 200/2 ED
My Blog: http://picturechemistry.own-blog.com/
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David
Joined: 13 Apr 2011 Posts: 1869 Location: Denver, Colorado
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Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2012 7:52 pm Post subject: |
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David wrote:
Hey, thank you all for the input. To answer your questions
1- Yes, I believe all three are rodagons.
2- My first two thoughts for uses were on my enlarger and also for macro work. I have a Pentax Macro Bellows II with an M42 female and K-mount male, so it works nicely on my K-7. With my M39-M42 adapter, the enlarger lenses ought to be very usable on the bellows.
3- Digitizing slides is definitely an idea. I hadn't thought of it, but I have 4500 slides from my girlfriend's father left to scan. It takes about two minutes per slide on my scanner. And the slide duplicator I bought has a flange focal distance about 10mm shorter than M42.
4- Those are really great macro lenses. Time to experiment with focus stacking!
It seems the slide duplicating ought to be fairly straightforward. With a 40.5mm-to-whatever-size step-up ring, one could affix a slide carrier to some distance in front of the lens. With the bellows, the focusing ought to be do-able.
I actually bought them mostly because the lady wanted $50 each. She had been given a darkroom setup to sell and I had helped her understand what the various parts and pieces were. The dude who gave her the setup had an IMPRESSIVE and unused setup, including at least one Toyo 125 4X5. I admit, I wanted that camera but it was missing the lens board and focusing screen. The guy had a home color processing and developing setup for large-format photography. Quite impressive.
Anyway, I can't wait to get these tested out. I'll definitely share pictures as soon as I can. _________________ http://www.youtube.com/user/hancockDavidM |
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Farside
Joined: 01 Sep 2007 Posts: 6557 Location: Ireland
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Posted: Wed Jun 20, 2012 12:28 am Post subject: |
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Farside wrote:
I have a Rodagon 150/5.6 which I intend to mount on a lens board and try on Large Format 5x4in and 9x12cm. I have some hopes for it. _________________ Dave - Moderator
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Orio
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 29545 Location: West Emilia
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Posted: Wed Jun 20, 2012 8:39 am Post subject: |
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Orio wrote:
Farside wrote: |
I have a Rodagon 150/5.6 which I intend to mount on a lens board and try on Large Format 5x4in and 9x12cm. I have some hopes for it. |
Will it work for macro only, I guess? _________________ Orio, Administrator
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kds315*
Joined: 12 Mar 2008 Posts: 16657 Location: Weinheim, Germany
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Posted: Wed Jun 20, 2012 10:15 am Post subject: |
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kds315* wrote:
Excellent lenses for sure the Rodagons - and especially the Apo-Rodagons.
Orio: if the focal length is long enough (from about 80mm onwards),
even infinity shots are doable, although they were never made for that
(but do pretty well). _________________ Klaus - Admin
"S'il vient a point, me souviendra" [Thomas Bohier (1460-1523)]
http://www.macrolenses.de for macro and special lens info
http://www.pbase.com/kds315/uv_photos for UV Images and lens/filter info
https://www.flickr.com/photos/kds315/albums my albums using various lenses
http://photographyoftheinvisibleworld.blogspot.com/ my UV BLOG
http://www.travelmeetsfood.com/blog Food + Travel BLOG
https://galeriafotografia.com Architecture + Drone photography
Currently most FAV lens(es):
X80QF f3.2/80mm
Hypergon f11/26mm
ELCAN UV f5.6/52mm
Zeiss UV-Planar f4/60mm
Zeiss UV-Planar f2/62mm
Lomo Уфар-12 f2.5/41mm
Lomo Зуфар-2 f4.0/350mm
Lomo ZIKAR-1A f1.2/100mm
Nikon UV Nikkor f4.5/105mm
Zeiss UV-Sonnar f4.3/105mm
CERCO UV-VIS-NIR f1.8/45mm
CERCO UV-VIS-NIR f4.1/94mm
CERCO UV-VIS-NIR f2.8/100mm
Steinheil Quarzobjektiv f1.8/50mm
Pentax Quartz Takumar f3.5/85mm
Carl Zeiss Jena UV-Objektiv f4/60mm
NYE OPTICAL Lyman-Alpha II f1.1/90mm
NYE OPTICAL Lyman-Alpha I f2.8/200mm
COASTAL OPTICS f4/60mm UV-VIS-IR Apo
COASTAL OPTICS f4.5/105mm UV-Micro-Apo
Pentax Ultra-Achromatic Takumar f4.5/85mm
Pentax Ultra-Achromatic Takumar f5.6/300mm
Rodenstock UV-Rodagon f5.6/60mm + 105mm + 150mm
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ForenSeil
Joined: 15 Apr 2011 Posts: 2726 Location: Kiel, Germany.
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Posted: Thu Jun 21, 2012 12:56 am Post subject: |
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ForenSeil wrote:
Only the repro-"enlarger"-lenses like Rodagon-R, Rodagon-D, Rodenstock Ronar, Schneider C-Claron/G-Claron, etc. which are made for reproduction or small enlargements are pretty useless on infinity as long as you don't stop them down to ~F22 or even above - but they are still very interesting for medium- and especially large format as here F22 and more doesn't cost that much resolution there and they are very good and cheaper than native large format or medium format (macro) lenses.
The other normal Rodagons will work on infinity if stopped down properly, but of course they won't perform as good as about @ 1:15 etc.
But I guess also many native macro lenses do the same. _________________ I'm not a collector, I'm a tester
My camera: Sony A7+Zeiss Sonnar 55/1.8
Current favourite lenses (I have many more):
A few macro-Tominons, Samyang 12/2.8, Noritsu 50.7/9.5, Rodagon 105/5.6 on bellows, Samyang 135/2, Nikon ED 180/2.8, Leitz Elmar-R 250/4, Celestron C8 2000mm F10
Most wanted: Samyang 24/1.4, Samyang 35/1.4, Nikon 200/2 ED
My Blog: http://picturechemistry.own-blog.com/
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wupdigoj
Joined: 18 Mar 2010 Posts: 85
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Posted: Wed Jul 18, 2012 9:47 am Post subject: |
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wupdigoj wrote:
I own a couple of apo-gerogons, which I understand are repro lenses, and are perfectly fine for infinity work in a 9x12 camera. They are slow (f9 I think) so the image in the screen is very dim. They are also fine for enlarging, but focussing and composing is a nightmare.
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kds315*
Joined: 12 Mar 2008 Posts: 16657 Location: Weinheim, Germany
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Posted: Wed Jul 18, 2012 10:38 am Post subject: |
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kds315* wrote:
ForenSeil wrote: |
Only the repro-"enlarger"-lenses like Rodagon-R, Rodagon-D, Rodenstock Ronar, Schneider C-Claron/G-Claron, etc. which are made for reproduction or small enlargements are pretty useless on infinity as long as you don't stop them down to ~F22 or even above - but they are still very interesting for medium- and especially large format as here F22 and more doesn't cost that much resolution there and they are very good and cheaper than native large format or medium format (macro) lenses.
The other normal Rodagons will work on infinity if stopped down properly, but of course they won't perform as good as about @ 1:15 etc.
But I guess also many native macro lenses do the same. |
Just a little addition, the Ronars do work pretty well also at infinity. _________________ Klaus - Admin
"S'il vient a point, me souviendra" [Thomas Bohier (1460-1523)]
http://www.macrolenses.de for macro and special lens info
http://www.pbase.com/kds315/uv_photos for UV Images and lens/filter info
https://www.flickr.com/photos/kds315/albums my albums using various lenses
http://photographyoftheinvisibleworld.blogspot.com/ my UV BLOG
http://www.travelmeetsfood.com/blog Food + Travel BLOG
https://galeriafotografia.com Architecture + Drone photography
Currently most FAV lens(es):
X80QF f3.2/80mm
Hypergon f11/26mm
ELCAN UV f5.6/52mm
Zeiss UV-Planar f4/60mm
Zeiss UV-Planar f2/62mm
Lomo Уфар-12 f2.5/41mm
Lomo Зуфар-2 f4.0/350mm
Lomo ZIKAR-1A f1.2/100mm
Nikon UV Nikkor f4.5/105mm
Zeiss UV-Sonnar f4.3/105mm
CERCO UV-VIS-NIR f1.8/45mm
CERCO UV-VIS-NIR f4.1/94mm
CERCO UV-VIS-NIR f2.8/100mm
Steinheil Quarzobjektiv f1.8/50mm
Pentax Quartz Takumar f3.5/85mm
Carl Zeiss Jena UV-Objektiv f4/60mm
NYE OPTICAL Lyman-Alpha II f1.1/90mm
NYE OPTICAL Lyman-Alpha I f2.8/200mm
COASTAL OPTICS f4/60mm UV-VIS-IR Apo
COASTAL OPTICS f4.5/105mm UV-Micro-Apo
Pentax Ultra-Achromatic Takumar f4.5/85mm
Pentax Ultra-Achromatic Takumar f5.6/300mm
Rodenstock UV-Rodagon f5.6/60mm + 105mm + 150mm
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