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Orio
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 29545 Location: West Emilia
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Posted: Wed May 25, 2011 12:26 am Post subject: Piease help me choose |
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Orio wrote:
I am making a selection of not more than 100 photos (but if I'll be able to keep it at 50 photos, even better), to represent my 20 years as more or less "committed" photographer.
These selected photos will end up in my main web site. I will not host my full series there, or at least, not immediately. I want that the site that represents me, only hosts a restricted selection.
I need to choose one between these two Paris photographs. I am undecided, and I can use your best judgement to make a choice.
They are of course two completely different photos, although taken exactly in the same position at only a few seconds difference. I can not however keep both:
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Katastrofo
Joined: 26 Feb 2007 Posts: 10405 Location: USA
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Posted: Wed May 25, 2011 1:48 am Post subject: |
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Katastrofo wrote:
First photo, without a doubt. The human element adds considerably more
interest to the scene. |
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rbelyell
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Posted: Wed May 25, 2011 2:00 am Post subject: |
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rbelyell wrote:
i like the balance and uncluttered feel of 2 better, as well as the way the subjects line up. it conveys a feeling, or mood, like a lonely early morning... _________________ Epson RD1 + Elmarit 21/2.8; Summarit 50/1.5; Summarit 75/2.5; Elmar-c 90/4; Sankyo Komura 135/2.8, Hektor 135/4.5; Braun Paxina 29 6x6; Photax Boyer Paris; Holga 120 Pano
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DigiChromeEd
Joined: 29 Dec 2009 Posts: 3462 Location: Northern Ireland
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Posted: Wed May 25, 2011 6:03 am Post subject: |
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DigiChromeEd wrote:
No.2 for me definately! The car in the foreground in No.1 spoils it for me. _________________ "I've got a Nikon camera, I like to take a photograph" - Paul Simon |
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tobbsman
Joined: 25 Jul 2008 Posts: 2578 Location: Austria
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Posted: Wed May 25, 2011 6:44 am Post subject: |
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tobbsman wrote:
definitly #1 for me, the car doesn't desturb me, it's "street life" photography anyway.
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eddieitman
Joined: 12 Apr 2011 Posts: 1246 Location: United Kingdom
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Posted: Wed May 25, 2011 6:53 am Post subject: |
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eddieitman wrote:
I would say a combination of Both, I have done this so you can see the effect its a 2 minute cut and paste job before i go to work so dont have teh time to do it correctly but just to get the feel.
I know that it is terrible if i get the opportunity this afternoon i will do it properly
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Orio
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 29545 Location: West Emilia
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Posted: Wed May 25, 2011 7:49 am Post subject: |
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Orio wrote:
Thanks for the opinions! _________________ Orio, Administrator
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my_photography
Joined: 03 Nov 2008 Posts: 2772 Location: Pearl of the Orient
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Posted: Wed May 25, 2011 7:58 am Post subject: |
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my_photography wrote:
I like the human factor + the movement but without the car. _________________
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Jesito
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Posted: Wed May 25, 2011 8:16 am Post subject: |
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Jesito wrote:
I vould vote for the #2, I like the lonelyness it transmits.
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tobbsman
Joined: 25 Jul 2008 Posts: 2578 Location: Austria
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Posted: Wed May 25, 2011 11:19 am Post subject: |
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tobbsman wrote:
it's much more easy to clone other way round:
1 minute work, can be optimized still ...
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Gurdie
Joined: 29 Jul 2008 Posts: 997 Location: Finland
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Posted: Wed May 25, 2011 2:31 pm Post subject: |
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Gurdie wrote:
I think it depends of what kind of feeling You´d like to convey. There are people and cars in #1, but they don´t seem to be the subject of the pic, so at least for me, the subject of #1 is the MOMENT.
#2, without people, creates a mood of loneliness, like Jesito said.
I´d crop the lamppost feet from both corners, too. _________________ Markku
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visualopsins
Joined: 05 Mar 2009 Posts: 11064 Location: California
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Posted: Wed May 25, 2011 2:49 pm Post subject: |
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visualopsins wrote:
What a dilemma! Both are very strong images. After seeing action in #1, #2 looks very stark, deserted and bare, the action is distant, everything is moving away from the scene. Exposures appear slightly different, #1 is slightly better, note highlights on distant dome & spire (follow the light poles). I think the car in #1 is necessary for overall balance, but it does distract some attention from the rest of the scene. I cannot decide between them which I like best! _________________ ☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮ like attracts like! ☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮
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mmelvis
Joined: 24 May 2010 Posts: 1326 Location: Florida,USA
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Posted: Wed May 25, 2011 4:13 pm Post subject: |
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mmelvis wrote:
The first image as the people add movement to the image. This causes the eye to wonder more around the image. There is more going on in the first image, appeals to my eye. |
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LucisPictor
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Posted: Wed May 25, 2011 4:19 pm Post subject: |
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LucisPictor wrote:
eddieitman wrote: |
I would say a combination of Both, .. |
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Laurence
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Posted: Wed May 25, 2011 6:14 pm Post subject: |
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Laurence wrote:
Number 2, for all the reasons mentioned above. _________________
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Orio
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 29545 Location: West Emilia
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Posted: Thu May 26, 2011 12:33 am Post subject: |
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Orio wrote:
Thank you all for your advices!
When it comes to snapshots, I am usually against altering the reality beyond the simple fixing of defects;
however, if Robert Capa's and Doisneau's most famous snapshots are actually fakes, and the people knows it, and the critics know it,
and yet they keep being celebrated for those photos, well... who am I to not try to do the same?
So, I took the advice of mixing the pictures, and I only used the man - not the cars, not the other people crossing the road.
This way I hope that the frankensteinized photo might keep the best of both: the human element adding interest, and the vastness of the square suggesting loneliness.
Well, you let me know. At this point, the choice will be between this frankenstein version, and the #2 - I reckon that #1 with all the closer traffic is not my choice in any case:
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IAZA
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Posted: Thu May 26, 2011 4:36 am Post subject: |
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IAZA wrote:
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poilu
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Posted: Thu May 26, 2011 5:57 am Post subject: |
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poilu wrote:
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who am I to not try to do the same? |
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eddieitman
Joined: 12 Apr 2011 Posts: 1246 Location: United Kingdom
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Posted: Thu May 26, 2011 6:05 am Post subject: |
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eddieitman wrote:
Removing the people on the crossing causes a huge empty space that causes my eyes to only focus on one element thats the person walking. The people on the crossing add balance making my eye focus on the building first and then make the eyes wander and examine the whole scene. _________________ My web site www.digital-darkroom.weebly.com
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