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tobbsman
Joined: 25 Jul 2008 Posts: 2578 Location: Austria
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Posted: Tue Mar 03, 2009 8:03 pm Post subject: Low Contrast |
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tobbsman wrote:
For "low contrast" and minimalism lovers ...
This is not converted to B&W, it is just as is was, a lot of fog in the air.
my beloved SMC K 28mm 3.5:
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Sven
Joined: 02 Aug 2008 Posts: 818 Location: Linköping Sweden
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Posted: Tue Mar 03, 2009 8:17 pm Post subject: |
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Sven wrote:
I must be a minimalism lover then, because I think the are all great, with at slight preference for #2.
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riba
Joined: 23 Oct 2008 Posts: 35 Location: Croatia
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Posted: Tue Mar 03, 2009 8:18 pm Post subject: |
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riba wrote:
Different from usually photos, but very very nice set.
My fav is #1. |
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lahnet
Joined: 10 Apr 2007 Posts: 1164 Location: Denmark
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Posted: Tue Mar 03, 2009 8:18 pm Post subject: |
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lahnet wrote:
Beautyfull _________________ Henrik
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patrickh
Joined: 23 Aug 2007 Posts: 8551 Location: Oregon
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Posted: Tue Mar 03, 2009 9:02 pm Post subject: |
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patrickh wrote:
Very very atmospheric tobbsman
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Orio
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 29545 Location: West Emilia
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Posted: Wed Mar 04, 2009 2:34 am Post subject: |
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Orio wrote:
Nice moody pictures in a difficult photographic situation.
I personally don't agree about these pictures being high key. I don't see highs there, I see lots of middle greys.
As far as my opinion is concerned, this is what I would call high key:
Sorry for the posterization. _________________ Orio, Administrator
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tobbsman
Joined: 25 Jul 2008 Posts: 2578 Location: Austria
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Posted: Wed Mar 04, 2009 9:25 am Post subject: |
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tobbsman wrote:
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I personally don't agree about these pictures being high key. I don't see highs there, I see lots of middle greys.
As far as my opinion is concerned, this is what I would call high key: |
Thanks Orio for explaining and demonstrating with the pic !
That's what I also think about high-key.
As I thought high key would be: when white tones predominate a photograph, but still there can be a lot of contrast. in opposite to low key where black tones predominate.
In my case there are lots of middle tones with very less contrast among theml, which I finally called "low contrast".
As far as I remember from a photography-exhibition in Salzburg (where this kind of low-contrasty photographs where shown), this "technique" was explained as a photographic style: and as I remember correctly ( I am not sure) it had the name "Low Contrast Photography" ... therefore I choosed the name of this thread.
Anybody knows more something about that ?
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Esox lucius
Joined: 26 Aug 2008 Posts: 2441 Location: Helsinki, Finland
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Posted: Wed Mar 04, 2009 10:17 am Post subject: |
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Esox lucius wrote:
Wonderful shots, I really like the soft even light that these conditions create. _________________ Vilhelm
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Xpres
Joined: 11 Dec 2007 Posts: 964 Location: UK
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Posted: Wed Mar 04, 2009 10:19 am Post subject: |
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Xpres wrote:
I like them a lot - they convey the wintry mood very well, especially the sun peeking through the fog.
I think they might be called 'soft'. Although these days people use it in terms of sharpness you used to be able to buy soft grade paper or hard grade paper for black and white, ie. low or high contrast.
Whatever you call it they work well for me. Great stuff! _________________ Film... and sometimes SD14, 5D2 and some other suff! |
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Orio
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 29545 Location: West Emilia
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Posted: Wed Mar 04, 2009 12:47 pm Post subject: |
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Orio wrote:
You can not call "high key" a photograph with an histogram like this:
High tones are completely absent.
Now, if you want to call it "middle key", that could be appropriate. _________________ Orio, Administrator
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tobbsman
Joined: 25 Jul 2008 Posts: 2578 Location: Austria
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Posted: Wed Mar 04, 2009 1:53 pm Post subject: |
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tobbsman wrote:
VERY VERY interesting Keith G. I will have a Wiki-tour wright now, because I am very interested in this subject.
Thanks for your time and effort to explain ...
Cheers
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Orio
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 29545 Location: West Emilia
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Posted: Wed Mar 04, 2009 3:11 pm Post subject: |
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Orio wrote:
I always thought that "high key" photography meant that the key (=crucial) point is on the high tones, and the other tones (middle tones, dark tones) are there just to provide the counterpoint, so to say.
If instead "high key photography" means that the crucial point is in the middle tones, with no high tones present and no dark tones present, then I may stand corrected, but then, in all humbleness, I question the linguistic appropriateness of the definition. _________________ Orio, Administrator
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Xpres
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Posted: Wed Mar 04, 2009 4:57 pm Post subject: |
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Xpres wrote:
never realised there was so much discussion around about definitions.
To my mind a high key image may well have a full range of tones but predominantly light ones and conversely a low key image will also have a full range but mostly dark ones. The images here are soft - that is of low contrast - and hi-key being mostly of light tones.
Have I got it right? Or do I need to bury my head in some text books?
There may be different takes on images, but we need to be singing from the same hymn sheet when talking about technique and technical stuff.
Don't we? _________________ Film... and sometimes SD14, 5D2 and some other suff! |
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Xpres
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Posted: Wed Mar 04, 2009 6:17 pm Post subject: |
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Xpres wrote:
Thanks for the text book It explains it well. _________________ Film... and sometimes SD14, 5D2 and some other suff! |
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Orio
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Posted: Wed Mar 04, 2009 9:56 pm Post subject: |
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Orio wrote:
Keith G wrote: |
'The original tree shots are high key because the lighting ratio is low which gives low contrast in the shots - there does not need for there to be any high tones. |
OK, if the above definition is correct, then the following picture is a high key picture:
low lighting ratio... low contrast... no need for high tones to be there... it fits the image completely.
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trifox
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Posted: Wed Mar 04, 2009 9:59 pm Post subject: |
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trifox wrote:
Hi tobbsman !
I love these pictures as seen in original versions!
Nice atmosphere !
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