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csaba369
Joined: 08 Feb 2008 Posts: 172 Location: Hungary
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Posted: Sat May 16, 2009 12:42 pm Post subject: Is this noisy too? - pana G1 test again |
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csaba369 wrote:
Just got my M42 adapter, tested pana with Jupiter 37A at ISO100 about f5.6. There was hazy weather, not too ideal, so I have to adjust contrast and tone curve in Lightroom. But nothing else, no sharpening or other mod.
crops:
and the full size image:
http://369.hu/outerpics/20090516/pana_jupi-1_full.jpg
What do you think? _________________ A lot of MF lenses, Panasonic G1, EOS 300V, Zorki 4, Kiev 4, Pentacon Six etc. |
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Farside
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Posted: Sat May 16, 2009 3:18 pm Post subject: |
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Farside wrote:
Not very noisy at all. Looks fine to me. _________________ Dave - Moderator
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Attila
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 57865 Location: Hungary
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Posted: Sat May 16, 2009 6:11 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
In dull weather I think my E-1 produce same image I think. Check next time in bright sunny days on close subjects a few meters only and if no noise that is fine. Shoot at infinity is not easy even with film so I think not relevant as noise test. Surely this camera will not produce images like Pentax, Nikon or Canon it's power the compatibility. _________________ -------------------------------
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LucisPictor
Joined: 26 Feb 2007 Posts: 17633 Location: Oberhessen, Germany / Maidstone ('95-'96)
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Posted: Sat May 16, 2009 6:28 pm Post subject: |
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LucisPictor wrote:
Some noise is visible, but it's fine! Not bad at all.
In the other shots, not the noise was disturbing but the JPG artefacts.
Here this is much better. _________________ Personal forum activity on pause every now and again (due to job obligations)!
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Orio
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Posted: Sun May 17, 2009 12:39 am Post subject: |
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Orio wrote:
What is pana?
I am with Carsten, there is a little noise but it's ok, it's not disturbing (and a light pass of Noise Ninja would cure it off if needed) _________________ Orio, Administrator
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trifox
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Posted: Sun May 17, 2009 10:49 am Post subject: |
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trifox wrote:
Orio wrote: |
What is pana?
I am with Carsten, there is a little noise but it's ok, it's not disturbing (and a light pass of Noise Ninja would cure it off if needed) |
I thinkt that the 'PANA' could be 'PANASONIC'
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PaulC
Joined: 23 Dec 2008 Posts: 2318
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Posted: Sun May 17, 2009 10:59 am Post subject: |
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PaulC wrote:
This is a worrying. I can see no noise at all on my CRT screen ... but I've been having problems processing images on a flat-screen monitor where they look great but when I transfer them to the CRT they look sh*t. Having the monitors calibrated with the same spyder seems to make no difference - the LCD monitor makes things look bright and noisy, where the CRT makes them look dull and noise-free.
Of the two, the CRT (despite being ancient) is the one that doesn't get "poor exposure" rejections on the micros, so I guess it is the more accurate ... This has been a cause of serious concern for over a year and I can't seem to find an answer. Any ideas? Or is it just the way my eyes are "calibrated" to the screens?
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csaba369
Joined: 08 Feb 2008 Posts: 172 Location: Hungary
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Posted: Sun May 17, 2009 3:30 pm Post subject: |
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csaba369 wrote:
Thank you for all!
I've just bought this camera, changed 350D. I really happy with it, can use my old zorki m39 lenses on it too. But too new, no experience with it, thats why I asked some help from you. As I see colors much better then 350D, and the details is better too for my eyes.
And a lot other think is better too, focusing with MF lenses on the top for me! Size is a bit small, but we can live together. More space for film cams in the bag...
Thank you for your opinion!
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eeyore_nl
Joined: 09 Nov 2008 Posts: 837 Location: Netherlands
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Posted: Sat May 30, 2009 4:04 pm Post subject: |
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eeyore_nl wrote:
csaba369 wrote: |
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(This cam is Panasonic Lumix DMC-G1) |
I think it is a very interesting camera! There is one thing that worries me: when you change lenses, the sensor is fully exposed, because there is no mirror or shutter to protect it. That would make me a bit nervous.
Apart from that, the Panasonic idea is great! I hope more vendors will come with similar designs. |
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Attila
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Posted: Sat May 30, 2009 4:38 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
[quote="eeyore_nl"]
csaba369 wrote: |
I think it is a very interesting camera! There is one thing that worries me: when you change lenses, the sensor is fully exposed, because there is no mirror or shutter to protect it. That would make me a bit nervous.
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This is a very good point of view , need to know how maker did make protection. _________________ -------------------------------
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fenris
Joined: 23 Oct 2008 Posts: 42
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Posted: Sun Aug 16, 2009 3:37 pm Post subject: |
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fenris wrote:
Off-topic, but I've gota agree. I'm using a CRT myself, and the images look fine on my monitor. But when I have the same image on most other LCDs, they look noisy, low contrast and more saturated. Of course, since I prefer to print my own best images, that's not a practical issue. The only problem is getting people with different monitors to see what I'm seeing!
That aside, I do find the images fine as far as noise is concerned, even when I crank the brightness above my usual. Whenever I crank the brightness up, more noise shows, so yeah.
PaulC wrote: |
This is a worrying. I can see no noise at all on my CRT screen ... but I've been having problems processing images on a flat-screen monitor where they look great but when I transfer them to the CRT they look sh*t. Having the monitors calibrated with the same spyder seems to make no difference - the LCD monitor makes things look bright and noisy, where the CRT makes them look dull and noise-free.
Of the two, the CRT (despite being ancient) is the one that doesn't get "poor exposure" rejections on the micros, so I guess it is the more accurate ... This has been a cause of serious concern for over a year and I can't seem to find an answer. Any ideas? Or is it just the way my eyes are "calibrated" to the screens?
Anyway, I see nothing wrong with the photos. |
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greg
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Posted: Mon Aug 17, 2009 1:20 am Post subject: |
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greg wrote:
Personally, I think a tube with the guns painting the phosphor coating on the inside have fuzzy edges thus blending transition areas giving a film like image; unlike the lcd type screens that have definite pixels that are turned on and off with a black matrix surrounding each pixel. Similar to comparison of Kodaks dye sublimation printers to ink jet printers on the same paper or between a film negative and a digital image. Comparing images from one to the other is a little like the old saw of comparing apples to oranges. Take a good close look at the image on your lcd screen and you will even see the matrix border - looking like a fine window screen. |
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