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tobbsman
Joined: 25 Jul 2008 Posts: 2578 Location: Austria
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Posted: Mon Apr 02, 2012 9:38 pm Post subject: Guess the Lens ;-) |
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tobbsman wrote:
Arrived in Holland for my vacation.
Just some weird shot with weird compositions from the coast and Middelburg.
what do you think about the lens ?
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Cheers
Tobias _________________ Camera Pentax K10D, K20D, Super A
SMC K28 3.5, SMC K24 2.8, SMC K28/2, SMC K50/1.4,SMC A50/1.7, SMC M28/3.5, SMC A 50/1.7, SMC K135 2.5, SMC A50 1.2
SMC A35-105 3.5, SMC A70-210 4, SMC A20 2.8, SMC M28 2.8,K28/3.5 SMC A28 2.8, SMC A100 2.8 Macro, CZJ Flektogon 20 2.8 (MC), 35 2.4 (MC),S.M.C Takumar 85mm 1.8, Helios 44M-4, A.Schacht Travenar 90/2.8, C.Zeiss J. Sonnar 180/2.8
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Check out my "Beginner's Guide to Panorama Stiching !
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David
Joined: 13 Apr 2011 Posts: 1869 Location: Denver, Colorado
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Posted: Tue Apr 03, 2012 4:05 am Post subject: |
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David wrote:
Looks like an ultra-wide, but also a tilt shift? 24mm tilt-shift? _________________ http://www.youtube.com/user/hancockDavidM |
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tobbsman
Joined: 25 Jul 2008 Posts: 2578 Location: Austria
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Posted: Tue Apr 03, 2012 6:07 am Post subject: |
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tobbsman wrote:
no
Cheers
Tobias _________________ Camera Pentax K10D, K20D, Super A
SMC K28 3.5, SMC K24 2.8, SMC K28/2, SMC K50/1.4,SMC A50/1.7, SMC M28/3.5, SMC A 50/1.7, SMC K135 2.5, SMC A50 1.2
SMC A35-105 3.5, SMC A70-210 4, SMC A20 2.8, SMC M28 2.8,K28/3.5 SMC A28 2.8, SMC A100 2.8 Macro, CZJ Flektogon 20 2.8 (MC), 35 2.4 (MC),S.M.C Takumar 85mm 1.8, Helios 44M-4, A.Schacht Travenar 90/2.8, C.Zeiss J. Sonnar 180/2.8
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Willem
Joined: 08 Jun 2011 Posts: 280 Location: Netherlands
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Posted: Tue Apr 03, 2012 6:52 am Post subject: |
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Willem wrote:
i see no tilt-shift effect.
It all looks very "Zeiss3d"-ish, and also very wide. In your signature i see CZJ Flektogon 20 2.8, maybe?
I really do like the first one, by the way. _________________
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BRunner
Joined: 29 Jul 2009 Posts: 705 Location: Czech Republic
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Posted: Tue Apr 03, 2012 7:25 am Post subject: |
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BRunner wrote:
Too much distortion for wide-angle. Looks like FF fish-eye on crop camera. Zenitar 2.8/16, or Takumar 4/17 or something like this. _________________ .: APO-Maniac :. |
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Minolfan
Joined: 30 Dec 2008 Posts: 3439 Location: Netherlands
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Posted: Tue Apr 03, 2012 8:17 am Post subject: |
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Minolfan wrote:
I guess Zenitar 16mm 2.8 too. |
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IAZA
Joined: 16 Apr 2010 Posts: 2587 Location: Indonesia
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Posted: Tue Apr 03, 2012 8:51 am Post subject: |
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IAZA wrote:
I had 3 mount of Zenitar 16, I never had result like that in openwide.
but yess I agree that's taken with fish eye lens.
Takumar can produce such bokeh. so this is my guess, I dont have experience with other fisheye _________________ nex5, Olympus EPM1, yashica half 14, Canon eos 650 want to see samples of mine? please click My lenses
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Rolf
Joined: 02 May 2009 Posts: 4123 Location: NRW/Germany
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Posted: Tue Apr 03, 2012 8:57 am Post subject: |
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Rolf wrote:
Well Tobias, would say 16 or 17mm too. Maybe Takumar 4/17mm ?
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peterqd
Joined: 28 Feb 2007 Posts: 7448 Location: near High Wycombe, UK
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Posted: Tue Apr 03, 2012 9:09 am Post subject: |
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peterqd wrote:
SMC A20 2.8? _________________ Peter - Moderator |
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tobbsman
Joined: 25 Jul 2008 Posts: 2578 Location: Austria
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Posted: Tue Apr 03, 2012 4:13 pm Post subject: |
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tobbsman wrote:
Hehe, very far away all of you ...
I'll lift the secret ...
Those shots are done with SMC K50/1.4
all wide open with f1.4 ...
but panoramized of course each foto consits of 50-100 frames, handheld
except 1st was about 30 shots ... therefore the ultra-wide appearance
Cheers
Tobias _________________ Camera Pentax K10D, K20D, Super A
SMC K28 3.5, SMC K24 2.8, SMC K28/2, SMC K50/1.4,SMC A50/1.7, SMC M28/3.5, SMC A 50/1.7, SMC K135 2.5, SMC A50 1.2
SMC A35-105 3.5, SMC A70-210 4, SMC A20 2.8, SMC M28 2.8,K28/3.5 SMC A28 2.8, SMC A100 2.8 Macro, CZJ Flektogon 20 2.8 (MC), 35 2.4 (MC),S.M.C Takumar 85mm 1.8, Helios 44M-4, A.Schacht Travenar 90/2.8, C.Zeiss J. Sonnar 180/2.8
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Check out my "Beginner's Guide to Panorama Stiching !
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Minolfan
Joined: 30 Dec 2008 Posts: 3439 Location: Netherlands
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Posted: Tue Apr 03, 2012 4:24 pm Post subject: |
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Minolfan wrote:
The panorama-man again!
No chance to guess that |
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GrahamNR17
Joined: 17 Jan 2009 Posts: 1855 Location: Norfolk, UK
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Posted: Tue Apr 03, 2012 4:31 pm Post subject: |
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GrahamNR17 wrote:
I can think of nothing more to say than WOW! Stunning results, you are the master of that technique |
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bhargav
Joined: 24 Nov 2011 Posts: 938 Location: Helsinki, Finland
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Posted: Tue Apr 03, 2012 6:28 pm Post subject: |
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bhargav wrote:
I really like 3 and 4. Very nicely done. |
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peterqd
Joined: 28 Feb 2007 Posts: 7448 Location: near High Wycombe, UK
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Posted: Tue Apr 03, 2012 10:12 pm Post subject: |
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peterqd wrote:
tobbsman wrote: |
but panoramized of course |
Groan... _________________ Peter - Moderator |
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Orio
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 29545 Location: West Emilia
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Posted: Wed Apr 04, 2012 1:16 am Post subject: |
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Orio wrote:
tobbsman wrote: |
Hehe, very far away all of you ...
I'll lift the secret ...
Those shots are done with SMC K50/1.4
all wide open with f1.4 ...
but panoramized of course each foto consits of 50-100 frames, handheld
except 1st was about 30 shots ... therefore the ultra-wide appearance
Cheers
Tobias |
Brilliantly done, I have read about that technique on the Internet, there's a guy who stood up and claimed
it was _his_ technique, and named it after himself... not sure if true or not, but it seems not very appropriate to me
to name after himself a technique that was used by many all around the world, just because he had the idea of doing it
wide open instead of stopped down...
Anyway, your results are really stunning! Well worth the effort!
I now that I'm being too curious, but... is there a reason why you always go to Netherlands for your vacations?
Hoping to meet Spotmatic? _________________ Orio, Administrator
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iangreenhalgh1
Joined: 18 Mar 2011 Posts: 15679
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Posted: Wed Apr 04, 2012 2:10 am Post subject: |
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iangreenhalgh1 wrote:
And there was me thinking I'd had an original idea when I came up with the same idea...
Nicely done.
But 50-100 frames???? Surely this many is overkill? I usually do 10-20. _________________ I don't care who designed it, who made it or what country it comes from - I just enjoy using it! |
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tobbsman
Joined: 25 Jul 2008 Posts: 2578 Location: Austria
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Posted: Wed Apr 04, 2012 8:12 am Post subject: |
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tobbsman wrote:
Many many thanks guys for commenting !
@Orio
do you know the name of that guy ?
he should be one funny person
... I think I did my first wide open pano 6 years ago, maybe I can sue him
and claim the technique on my name
... about Holland: there is a reason: my wife is Dutch and we visit her relatives
traditionally with our Easter vacation (we are both teachers, so we have same vacation periods).
@Ian
no, not at all !
because the angle of view would be ~5 times as small (with same lens and same
distance to the object).
to take the same panorama with 20 shots you would have take a ultra-wide lens.
And there is no wide lens with f1.4. so the bokeh-effect would be more less be gone
and that's just the point of this wide-open panos ..
Cheers
TObias _________________ Camera Pentax K10D, K20D, Super A
SMC K28 3.5, SMC K24 2.8, SMC K28/2, SMC K50/1.4,SMC A50/1.7, SMC M28/3.5, SMC A 50/1.7, SMC K135 2.5, SMC A50 1.2
SMC A35-105 3.5, SMC A70-210 4, SMC A20 2.8, SMC M28 2.8,K28/3.5 SMC A28 2.8, SMC A100 2.8 Macro, CZJ Flektogon 20 2.8 (MC), 35 2.4 (MC),S.M.C Takumar 85mm 1.8, Helios 44M-4, A.Schacht Travenar 90/2.8, C.Zeiss J. Sonnar 180/2.8
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Check out my "Beginner's Guide to Panorama Stiching !
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Orio
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 29545 Location: West Emilia
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Posted: Wed Apr 04, 2012 9:36 am Post subject: |
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Orio wrote:
tobbsman wrote: |
Many many thanks guys for commenting !
@Orio
do you know the name of that guy ?
he should be one funny person
... I think I did my first wide open pano 6 years ago, maybe I can sue him
and claim the technique on my name |
The guy's called Ryan Brenizer
http://www.ryanbrenizer.com/2011/05/brenizer-method-instructions/
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about Holland: there is a reason: my wife is Dutch |
Yeah, I figured something like that _________________ Orio, Administrator
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ilguercio
Joined: 08 Mar 2012 Posts: 414 Location: Southern Italy-Calabria!
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Posted: Wed Apr 04, 2012 1:17 pm Post subject: |
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ilguercio wrote:
Very interesting, how do you manage the frames in post production and what is the correct procedure for taking the most correct shots on site?
Any suggestion?
Thanks in advance, lovely work you've done. |
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tobbsman
Joined: 25 Jul 2008 Posts: 2578 Location: Austria
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Posted: Wed Apr 04, 2012 6:34 pm Post subject: |
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tobbsman wrote:
@Orio
Thanks for the link !
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Very interesting, how do you manage the frames in post production and what is the correct procedure for taking the most correct shots on site?
Any suggestion?
Thanks in advance, lovely work you've done. |
Thanks !
Concerning 1st part of you question:
It's very easy, you just take a decent panorama stiching program and it will render the frames together.
Just make the output file about 100Mpix in size and it will be rendered in about a minute...
2nd part of your question I do not understand ... try to ask in different words, ... I just don't get it
Cheers
Tobias _________________ Camera Pentax K10D, K20D, Super A
SMC K28 3.5, SMC K24 2.8, SMC K28/2, SMC K50/1.4,SMC A50/1.7, SMC M28/3.5, SMC A 50/1.7, SMC K135 2.5, SMC A50 1.2
SMC A35-105 3.5, SMC A70-210 4, SMC A20 2.8, SMC M28 2.8,K28/3.5 SMC A28 2.8, SMC A100 2.8 Macro, CZJ Flektogon 20 2.8 (MC), 35 2.4 (MC),S.M.C Takumar 85mm 1.8, Helios 44M-4, A.Schacht Travenar 90/2.8, C.Zeiss J. Sonnar 180/2.8
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Check out my "Beginner's Guide to Panorama Stiching !
Visit my Asahi and Zeiss MF lens samples database ! |
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ilguercio
Joined: 08 Mar 2012 Posts: 414 Location: Southern Italy-Calabria!
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Posted: Wed Apr 04, 2012 7:25 pm Post subject: |
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ilguercio wrote:
I mean, how do you move the camera to get the other shots?
Do you just tilt it in every direction? I guess so, the "axis" of the camera should never change, right?
A bit like you were on a tripod and you could only rotate the camera, am i right? |
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tobbsman
Joined: 25 Jul 2008 Posts: 2578 Location: Austria
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Posted: Wed Apr 04, 2012 7:39 pm Post subject: |
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tobbsman wrote:
ok, understand now what you mean.
I haven't got good results when I "imitate" a panorama-head movement,
rotating the camera near the nodal point of the lens. It never worked really,
because one can't be that accurate, especially when it's about a huge number of frames.
I get best results when I rotate with my whole body, but always same.
As you see, with this close distance to the subject (~1meter) and about 80
frames each I was
still OK with this technique. Some minor stiching errors, but can be
corrected easily.
Hope that helped ...
Cheers
Tobias _________________ Camera Pentax K10D, K20D, Super A
SMC K28 3.5, SMC K24 2.8, SMC K28/2, SMC K50/1.4,SMC A50/1.7, SMC M28/3.5, SMC A 50/1.7, SMC K135 2.5, SMC A50 1.2
SMC A35-105 3.5, SMC A70-210 4, SMC A20 2.8, SMC M28 2.8,K28/3.5 SMC A28 2.8, SMC A100 2.8 Macro, CZJ Flektogon 20 2.8 (MC), 35 2.4 (MC),S.M.C Takumar 85mm 1.8, Helios 44M-4, A.Schacht Travenar 90/2.8, C.Zeiss J. Sonnar 180/2.8
Check out my: 2012 New "Advanced Guide to Panorama Stiching" !
Check out my "Beginner's Guide to Panorama Stiching !
Visit my Asahi and Zeiss MF lens samples database ! |
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ilguercio
Joined: 08 Mar 2012 Posts: 414 Location: Southern Italy-Calabria!
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Posted: Wed Apr 04, 2012 7:41 pm Post subject: |
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ilguercio wrote:
Yes, that was helpful.
I'll try to do one myself in the next days. What application do you use for stitching? I never did one and i don't really like using PS for this simple task. |
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tobbsman
Joined: 25 Jul 2008 Posts: 2578 Location: Austria
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Posted: Wed Apr 04, 2012 7:51 pm Post subject: |
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tobbsman wrote:
Use AutopanoGiga2.5
Cheers
Tobias _________________ Camera Pentax K10D, K20D, Super A
SMC K28 3.5, SMC K24 2.8, SMC K28/2, SMC K50/1.4,SMC A50/1.7, SMC M28/3.5, SMC A 50/1.7, SMC K135 2.5, SMC A50 1.2
SMC A35-105 3.5, SMC A70-210 4, SMC A20 2.8, SMC M28 2.8,K28/3.5 SMC A28 2.8, SMC A100 2.8 Macro, CZJ Flektogon 20 2.8 (MC), 35 2.4 (MC),S.M.C Takumar 85mm 1.8, Helios 44M-4, A.Schacht Travenar 90/2.8, C.Zeiss J. Sonnar 180/2.8
Check out my: 2012 New "Advanced Guide to Panorama Stiching" !
Check out my "Beginner's Guide to Panorama Stiching !
Visit my Asahi and Zeiss MF lens samples database ! |
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