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PostPosted: Mon Apr 02, 2012 9:38 pm    Post subject: Guess the Lens ;-) Reply with quote

Arrived in Holland for my vacation.
Just some weird shot with weird compositions from the coast and Middelburg.

what do you think about the lens Laughing ?

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Cheers
Tobias


PostPosted: Tue Apr 03, 2012 4:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Looks like an ultra-wide, but also a tilt shift? 24mm tilt-shift?


PostPosted: Tue Apr 03, 2012 6:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

no Wink

Cheers
Tobias


PostPosted: Tue Apr 03, 2012 6:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

i see no tilt-shift effect.
It all looks very "Zeiss3d"-ish, and also very wide. In your signature i see CZJ Flektogon 20 2.8, maybe?

I really do like the first one, by the way.


PostPosted: Tue Apr 03, 2012 7:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Too much distortion for wide-angle. Looks like FF fish-eye on crop camera. Zenitar 2.8/16, or Takumar 4/17 or something like this.


PostPosted: Tue Apr 03, 2012 8:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I guess Zenitar 16mm 2.8 too.


PostPosted: Tue Apr 03, 2012 8:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I had 3 mount of Zenitar 16, I never had result like that in openwide.
but yess I agree that's taken with fish eye lens.
Takumar can produce such bokeh. so this is my guess, I dont have experience with other fisheye


PostPosted: Tue Apr 03, 2012 8:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well Tobias, would say 16 or 17mm too. Maybe Takumar 4/17mm ?

Wink


PostPosted: Tue Apr 03, 2012 9:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

SMC A20 2.8?


PostPosted: Tue Apr 03, 2012 4:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hehe, very far away all of you ...

I'll lift the secret ...
Those shots are done with SMC K50/1.4
all wide open with f1.4 ...
but panoramized of course Smile each foto consits of 50-100 frames, handheld
except 1st was about 30 shots ... therefore the ultra-wide appearance

Cheers
Tobias


PostPosted: Tue Apr 03, 2012 4:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The panorama-man again!
No chance to guess that Laughing


PostPosted: Tue Apr 03, 2012 4:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I can think of nothing more to say than WOW! Stunning results, you are the master of that technique Cool


PostPosted: Tue Apr 03, 2012 6:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I really like 3 and 4. Very nicely done.


PostPosted: Tue Apr 03, 2012 10:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

tobbsman wrote:
but panoramized of course Smile

Groan... Wink


PostPosted: Wed Apr 04, 2012 1:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

tobbsman wrote:
Hehe, very far away all of you ...
I'll lift the secret ...
Those shots are done with SMC K50/1.4
all wide open with f1.4 ...
but panoramized of course Smile each foto consits of 50-100 frames, handheld
except 1st was about 30 shots ... therefore the ultra-wide appearance
Cheers
Tobias


Brilliantly done, I have read about that technique on the Internet, there's a guy who stood up and claimed
it was _his_ technique, and named it after himself... not sure if true or not, but it seems not very appropriate to me
to name after himself a technique that was used by many all around the world, just because he had the idea of doing it
wide open instead of stopped down...
Anyway, your results are really stunning! Well worth the effort!

I now that I'm being too curious, but... is there a reason why you always go to Netherlands for your vacations? Smile
Hoping to meet Spotmatic? Very Happy


PostPosted: Wed Apr 04, 2012 2:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

And there was me thinking I'd had an original idea when I came up with the same idea...

Nicely done.

But 50-100 frames???? Surely this many is overkill? I usually do 10-20.


PostPosted: Wed Apr 04, 2012 8:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Many many thanks guys for commenting !

@Orio
do you know the name of that guy ?
he should be one funny person Laughing
... I think I did my first wide open pano 6 years ago, maybe I can sue him
and claim the technique on my name Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing

... about Holland: there is a reason: my wife is Dutch and we visit her relatives
traditionally with our Easter vacation (we are both teachers, so we have same vacation periods).

@Ian
no, not at all !
because the angle of view would be ~5 times as small (with same lens and same
distance to the object).
to take the same panorama with 20 shots you would have take a ultra-wide lens.
And there is no wide lens with f1.4. so the bokeh-effect would be more less be gone Wink
and that's just the point of this wide-open panos ..

Cheers
TObias


PostPosted: Wed Apr 04, 2012 9:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

tobbsman wrote:
Many many thanks guys for commenting !
@Orio
do you know the name of that guy ?
he should be one funny person Laughing
... I think I did my first wide open pano 6 years ago, maybe I can sue him
and claim the technique on my name Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing


The guy's called Ryan Brenizer Very Happy
http://www.ryanbrenizer.com/2011/05/brenizer-method-instructions/
Laughing

tobbsman wrote:
about Holland: there is a reason: my wife is Dutch


Yeah, I figured something like that Smile


PostPosted: Wed Apr 04, 2012 1:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Very interesting, how do you manage the frames in post production and what is the correct procedure for taking the most correct shots on site?
Any suggestion?
Thanks in advance, lovely work you've done.


PostPosted: Wed Apr 04, 2012 6:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

@Orio
Thanks for the link ! Shocked Laughing

...

Quote:
Very interesting, how do you manage the frames in post production and what is the correct procedure for taking the most correct shots on site?
Any suggestion?
Thanks in advance, lovely work you've done.


Thanks !
Concerning 1st part of you question:
It's very easy, you just take a decent panorama stiching program and it will render the frames together.
Just make the output file about 100Mpix in size and it will be rendered in about a minute...

2nd part of your question I do not understand ... try to ask in different words, ... I just don't get it Wink


Cheers
Tobias


PostPosted: Wed Apr 04, 2012 7:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I mean, how do you move the camera to get the other shots?
Do you just tilt it in every direction? I guess so, the "axis" of the camera should never change, right?
A bit like you were on a tripod and you could only rotate the camera, am i right?


PostPosted: Wed Apr 04, 2012 7:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ok, understand now what you mean.

I haven't got good results when I "imitate" a panorama-head movement,
rotating the camera near the nodal point of the lens. It never worked really,
because one can't be that accurate, especially when it's about a huge number of frames.

I get best results when I rotate with my whole body, but always same.

As you see, with this close distance to the subject (~1meter) and about 80
frames each I was
still OK with this technique. Some minor stiching errors, but can be
corrected easily.

Hope that helped ...

Cheers
Tobias


PostPosted: Wed Apr 04, 2012 7:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, that was helpful.
I'll try to do one myself in the next days. What application do you use for stitching? I never did one and i don't really like using PS for this simple task.


PostPosted: Wed Apr 04, 2012 7:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Use AutopanoGiga2.5

Cheers
Tobias