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Jesito
Joined: 24 Aug 2007 Posts: 5745 Location: Olivella, Catalonia, (Spain)
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Posted: Sun Aug 23, 2009 7:38 pm Post subject: |
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Jesito wrote:
I tested the TLA30 with the 10D and it doesn't work in TTL mode at all...
Next test: the 1Ds.
What it does puzzle me is the compatibility with the 5D... Normally all the manufacturers use their own protocols to communicate between cameras, lenses and flashes (normally based on I2C transport).
I've found just one protocol compatibility in the past: SIGMA cameras use the same protocol than Canon, so adapting the mount one can use Canon lenses on Sigma cameras. That might make sense because SIGMA is making lenses for Canon cameras, and probably there was some agreement between both companies. (If not, Canon could be taking SIGMA to the courts!).
But Contax...??
The evidences are there, Your pictures show a perfect control, but I don't understand how. The TLA30 has 2 pins in the base (besides the central firing one) and Canon sports 4...
Misterys that we probably we never will know about.
So, I'll be trying the 1Ds, to see if there is some luck there...
Regards.
Jes. _________________ Jesito, Moderator
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Zooms Sigma 70-300, Tamron 35-135 and 70-210 short, 70-210 long, 28-70 CF Macro, 35-70, 35-80, Vivitar 70-210 KA, Tamron 70-250.
Fixed Industar-50, , Tamron 24mm, Tamron 135mm, Sands Hunter 135mm, Pancolar 50mm, Volna-3, many Exakta lenses
DSLR SIGMA SD9 & SD14, EOS 5D, Sony A700 and NEXF3, Oly E-330, E-400, E-450, E-1
TLR/6x6/645 YashicaMat, Petri 6x45, Nettar, Franka Solida, Brilliant
SLR Minolta X300, Fuji STX II, Praktica VLC3, Pentax P30t, EXA500, EXA 1A, Spotmatic(2), Chinon CM-4S, Ricoh, Contax, Konica TC-X , Minolta 5000, 7000i, 3Sxi, EOS 500 and CX
Rangefinders Chinon 35EE, Konica C35 auto, Canonet 28, Yashica Lynx, FED-2, Yashica electro 35, Argus C3 & C4, Regula Cita III, Voigtlander Vitoret (many), Welta Welti-I, Kodak Signette 35, Zorki-4, Bessa-R & L, Minolta Weathermatic, olympus XA2
Compact Film Konica C35V, Voigtlander Vitorets, Canon Prima Super 105, Olympus XA2 and XA3
Compact Digital Olympus C-5050, Aiptek Slim 3000, Canon Powershot A540, Nikon 5200, SIGMA DP1s, Polaroid X530, IXUS55, Kodak 6490, Powershot G9 and G10
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Jesito
Joined: 24 Aug 2007 Posts: 5745 Location: Olivella, Catalonia, (Spain)
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Posted: Sun Aug 23, 2009 7:42 pm Post subject: |
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Jesito wrote:
Oh, I see....
(Answering to myself).
Probably Orio, you said Automatic not referring to the TTL automatic mode but to the "red" and "green" automatic modes of the TLA30. Did you?.
Thanks.
Jes. _________________ Jesito, Moderator
Jesito's backsack:
Zooms Sigma 70-300, Tamron 35-135 and 70-210 short, 70-210 long, 28-70 CF Macro, 35-70, 35-80, Vivitar 70-210 KA, Tamron 70-250.
Fixed Industar-50, , Tamron 24mm, Tamron 135mm, Sands Hunter 135mm, Pancolar 50mm, Volna-3, many Exakta lenses
DSLR SIGMA SD9 & SD14, EOS 5D, Sony A700 and NEXF3, Oly E-330, E-400, E-450, E-1
TLR/6x6/645 YashicaMat, Petri 6x45, Nettar, Franka Solida, Brilliant
SLR Minolta X300, Fuji STX II, Praktica VLC3, Pentax P30t, EXA500, EXA 1A, Spotmatic(2), Chinon CM-4S, Ricoh, Contax, Konica TC-X , Minolta 5000, 7000i, 3Sxi, EOS 500 and CX
Rangefinders Chinon 35EE, Konica C35 auto, Canonet 28, Yashica Lynx, FED-2, Yashica electro 35, Argus C3 & C4, Regula Cita III, Voigtlander Vitoret (many), Welta Welti-I, Kodak Signette 35, Zorki-4, Bessa-R & L, Minolta Weathermatic, olympus XA2
Compact Film Konica C35V, Voigtlander Vitorets, Canon Prima Super 105, Olympus XA2 and XA3
Compact Digital Olympus C-5050, Aiptek Slim 3000, Canon Powershot A540, Nikon 5200, SIGMA DP1s, Polaroid X530, IXUS55, Kodak 6490, Powershot G9 and G10
CSCCanon EOS-M, Samsung NX100 and NX210, Lumix G5, NEX-F3 |
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Farside
Joined: 01 Sep 2007 Posts: 6557 Location: Ireland
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Posted: Mon Aug 24, 2009 12:18 am Post subject: |
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Farside wrote:
Thyristor flashguns were touted as 'automatic' when they came out, because they cut the flash duration short when they detected the reflected light. It's a system that still works well enough for decent results. Offhand, I don't know of any old thyristor gun that would be electronically control compatible with the EOS digital series - even Canon's old film guns are useless on their dSLRs, but can still be used in thyristor auto mode, iirc.
Regarding Sigma - they reverse engineered the protocols for lenses and Canon were powerless to stop them, but some Sigmas never worked properly with later models of EOS as a result of that. Whether Canon did that as a matter of policy, I don't know, but it's likely that Canon just didn't care about Sigma who they regarded as costing them sales of mid-range lenses. For a while, Sigma would re-chip or re-program their lenses for newer cameras, but certain lenses are no longer covered by that warranty. _________________ Dave - Moderator
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venkatnet
Joined: 14 Mar 2010 Posts: 3
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Posted: Sun Mar 14, 2010 6:07 pm Post subject: Sunpak RD2000 for canon 5d |
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venkatnet wrote:
Hi Orio,
Did you try Sunpak RD2000 with canon 5d. I think it is working fine. However the power is less as it requires only 2 AA batteries. I am bidding on a Contax TLA 30 based on your recommendations. Thanks for the post! _________________ Canon 5D Nikon D70s Nikon F3 Nikon F4 Nikon EM |
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wilson.c
Joined: 18 Jan 2010 Posts: 364 Location: Hong Kong
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Posted: Mon Mar 15, 2010 1:23 am Post subject: |
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wilson.c wrote:
Where would one find the trigger voltage of a Quantum Q-Flash Model-T. The 'Model-T' makes it seem so old (as in the car), don't know what their marketing people were thinking! I dug one up from storage, but the battery is shot. If the trigger voltage is acceptable for my 5D2, 500D and GF-1, I'll start a DIY project to replace the sealed lead acid battery inside. Alternatively, I can try a wireless remote slave for the flash to see how it goes. These remotes are not very expensive, so if it fries, I don't feel so bad. If that happened to my 5D2 or other digital gear _________________ Wilson
DSLR: Canon 5DMkII, 500D + Panasonic GF-1
SLR: Canon T90, Canon F1, Canon A1, Canon AE1 + Rolleiflex SL66 + Bronica ETRs
R'finder: Contax G1, G2 + Leica M6, M3 + Contax II
Lenses
M42: Angenieaux 90/1.8
Canon: FD 50/3.5 Macro, FD 80/1.8, FD 80-200L/4
Contax G: CZ Hologon 16/8, CZ Biogon 21/2.8, CZ Biogon 28/2.8, CZ Planar 45/2.0, CZ Sonnar 90/2.8
P-Six: CZJ Sonnar 180/2.8, CZJ Biometar 120/2.8
Contax: Distagon 28/2.8, Distagon 28/2, Planar 85/1.4, Makro-Planar 100/2.8
Others: CZ Sonnar 135/3.5 (Hasselblad V mount)
More little ones to be documented.
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venkatnet
Joined: 14 Mar 2010 Posts: 3
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Posted: Mon Mar 15, 2010 2:58 am Post subject: Trigger voltage for flashes |
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venkatnet wrote:
Hi Wilson,
You can try the following link. I could see few quantum flashes:
http://www.botzilla.com/photo/strobeVolts.html _________________ Canon 5D Nikon D70s Nikon F3 Nikon F4 Nikon EM |
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Himself
Joined: 01 Mar 2007 Posts: 3245 Location: Montreal
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Posted: Mon Mar 15, 2010 11:49 am Post subject: |
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Himself wrote:
Orio, how do you know the voltage is 2?
Is it written in the manual? |
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wilson.c
Joined: 18 Jan 2010 Posts: 364 Location: Hong Kong
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Posted: Mon Mar 15, 2010 1:48 pm Post subject: |
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wilson.c wrote:
venkatnet,
Thks! I found the site a bit further down in my Google search results.
"Your call" means anything from 6V and 24V also means use at your own risk. I guess I need to get one of those isolators to play it safe.
That's after I find a supplier for the spare battery in my Quantum Turbo Battery. _________________ Wilson
DSLR: Canon 5DMkII, 500D + Panasonic GF-1
SLR: Canon T90, Canon F1, Canon A1, Canon AE1 + Rolleiflex SL66 + Bronica ETRs
R'finder: Contax G1, G2 + Leica M6, M3 + Contax II
Lenses
M42: Angenieaux 90/1.8
Canon: FD 50/3.5 Macro, FD 80/1.8, FD 80-200L/4
Contax G: CZ Hologon 16/8, CZ Biogon 21/2.8, CZ Biogon 28/2.8, CZ Planar 45/2.0, CZ Sonnar 90/2.8
P-Six: CZJ Sonnar 180/2.8, CZJ Biometar 120/2.8
Contax: Distagon 28/2.8, Distagon 28/2, Planar 85/1.4, Makro-Planar 100/2.8
Others: CZ Sonnar 135/3.5 (Hasselblad V mount)
More little ones to be documented.
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gill
Joined: 08 Apr 2009 Posts: 44 Location: Lahore
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Posted: Wed Aug 24, 2011 10:11 am Post subject: Got Flah (Contax TLA 30) |
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gill wrote:
I experiment with Metz SCA 380 (Y/C) 45CT4 on eos 5D Mk1. In Green camera shutter speed 180 F 4.5 & flash at F 2.8 with nice results & in AV and Manual mode excellent results. Similar with Metz 36CT2 (borrowed). When I compare results with YN468/540EZ Metz combination gave better colors and contrast. Now will locate Yashica flash or Contax TLA 20 lying on shop.
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Jesito
Joined: 24 Aug 2007 Posts: 5745 Location: Olivella, Catalonia, (Spain)
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Posted: Wed Aug 24, 2011 10:35 am Post subject: |
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Jesito wrote:
Orio,
Such automatism, couldn't it be on the flash side instead of in the cam?.
In automatic mode, the flash cuts itself when the beam bounces back to its photocell.
I use an old Nikon SB-24 on my 5D with similar performance, and I'm sure the protocols are not compatible...
Regards.
Jes. _________________ Jesito, Moderator
Jesito's backsack:
Zooms Sigma 70-300, Tamron 35-135 and 70-210 short, 70-210 long, 28-70 CF Macro, 35-70, 35-80, Vivitar 70-210 KA, Tamron 70-250.
Fixed Industar-50, , Tamron 24mm, Tamron 135mm, Sands Hunter 135mm, Pancolar 50mm, Volna-3, many Exakta lenses
DSLR SIGMA SD9 & SD14, EOS 5D, Sony A700 and NEXF3, Oly E-330, E-400, E-450, E-1
TLR/6x6/645 YashicaMat, Petri 6x45, Nettar, Franka Solida, Brilliant
SLR Minolta X300, Fuji STX II, Praktica VLC3, Pentax P30t, EXA500, EXA 1A, Spotmatic(2), Chinon CM-4S, Ricoh, Contax, Konica TC-X , Minolta 5000, 7000i, 3Sxi, EOS 500 and CX
Rangefinders Chinon 35EE, Konica C35 auto, Canonet 28, Yashica Lynx, FED-2, Yashica electro 35, Argus C3 & C4, Regula Cita III, Voigtlander Vitoret (many), Welta Welti-I, Kodak Signette 35, Zorki-4, Bessa-R & L, Minolta Weathermatic, olympus XA2
Compact Film Konica C35V, Voigtlander Vitorets, Canon Prima Super 105, Olympus XA2 and XA3
Compact Digital Olympus C-5050, Aiptek Slim 3000, Canon Powershot A540, Nikon 5200, SIGMA DP1s, Polaroid X530, IXUS55, Kodak 6490, Powershot G9 and G10
CSCCanon EOS-M, Samsung NX100 and NX210, Lumix G5, NEX-F3 |
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