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Carl Zeiss Jena Tessar T 3.5/50
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 21, 2007 12:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gawd, what a lens! How much did you pay for this? A couple of fur pelts
and a string of beads? Awesome performance! Luv the Barbi doll in the
mailbox, and the bokeh is amazing in that "L"-shaped-protuberance-
from-the-wall, photo. Cool place, I might add.

Bill


PostPosted: Wed Nov 21, 2007 12:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

39 Euros buy-it-now Very Happy

Got it by pure instinct, I was looking for a Trioplan and found this lens in the same store. Immediately as I saw it I knew I had to buy it. So I got both and paid only one shipping price.

You know something? One may think that after a while, after having bought and tried and used many lenses, you get used to it, but you don't. I am really excited about this new lens, does not happen often anymore that I find a new lens that I feel it makes my photography make a leap forward, well, this is the case - as I review this series, one photo by one, I am very emotioned as I recognize in it that I got one step closer to the kind of photography I want to make - and since I am the same as 7 days before, this is the merit of the lens.

Now - it's so tiny, that I am obsessed about losing it. Every time I unscrew it from the camera I have the obsession of storing it well cos I'm afraid it can slip out here or there ! Shocked

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 21, 2007 12:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Please look at _MG_0371
(why the Helga does Canon have to label images _MG instead of IMG?)

Now, does not it feel like three dimensional inside?
I get a trip every time I review this shot.
I have made this shot at least other 5 times previously and never got this perception.

This lens has some little magic inside.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 21, 2007 12:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's a pretty lil' silvery-sparkly thing, helps keep track of it, I would think.
Yeah, I would be absolutely tits with the results you got from this lens!

Very nice congruence of forces here...

Bill


PostPosted: Wed Nov 21, 2007 12:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm not finding MG 0371 tag in the photos.


PostPosted: Wed Nov 21, 2007 12:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Katastrofo wrote:
I'm not finding MG 0371 tag in the photos.


Go to the index page, it's the photo exactly in the centre.

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 21, 2007 12:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah, very 3D. In the data underneath it has the aperture at 1.8?


PostPosted: Wed Nov 21, 2007 12:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Katastrofo wrote:
I'm not finding MG 0371 tag in the photos.


In Firefox and IE
Right-click on the thumbnail and look at the properties - it comes up with the image number as part of the title.


PostPosted: Wed Nov 21, 2007 12:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Katastrofo wrote:
Yeah, very 3D. In the data underneath it has the aperture at 1.8?


No, that's the FA chip that is set at f/1.8, it gives that value for all shots. Never mind it.
In this case the aperture was somewhere between f/4 and f/5.6

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 21, 2007 12:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Farside wrote:

In Firefox and IE
Right-click on the thumbnail and look at the properties - it comes up with the image number as part of the title.


With my Firefox I get the popup of the EXIF comment only by leaving the mouse cursor over the thumbnail.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 21, 2007 12:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

... and, most importantly, the filename shows up in the bottom bar.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 21, 2007 12:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

@Farside, thanks, yeah, I forgot about that, thought I was gonna be
spoonfed the tag# Laughing

Orio, understand, forgot about the electronic appliance you use... Laughing
(It is working very well, here!)

Bill


PostPosted: Wed Nov 21, 2007 12:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

0384 is very 3D, too!


PostPosted: Wed Nov 21, 2007 12:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Beautiful series Orio, you know I love looking at your architectural shots. Where is this?

The lens is truly impressive, I'll be looking for one myself I think, but in the meantime I have the little Industar. The Pancolar 1.8/50 compares pretty well with it too.

Have you seen this - it's too expensive for me right now:
Click here to see on Ebay


PostPosted: Wed Nov 21, 2007 1:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

After close examination I think I have found one of the factors that accentuate the 3Dness.
If you look at image _MG_0393, you see that the focal plane I put on the green leaves, and that is absolutely sharp, then look at the foreground bokeh of this lens, you can see it almost looks like a motion blur effect, as seen in Photoshop for instance.
This particular bokeh this lens has, makes it feel like if the OOF areas are "slipping away" from the focus centre.
I think that this illusionary movement of the bokeh, combined of course with the great microcontrast the lens provides on the focused area (see, even in this small resize you can read a lot of detail on the leaves), is what accentuates the 3D perception, more than in lenses with a "normal" bokeh. Not in the particular case of THIS picture, where the foreground is basically a flat plane - of course this comes into action where the composition also allows.


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PostPosted: Wed Nov 21, 2007 1:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

There's no way to look at the filenames of the pics Orio. Could you use the frame numbers in the slideshow?


PostPosted: Wed Nov 21, 2007 1:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

peterqd wrote:
Beautiful series Orio, you know I love looking at your architectural shots. Where is this?


Thanks Peter.
This is Castell'Arquato, a Mediaeval origin borgo (? is it Burg in English?) with a castle, that was restructured during the Renaissance.
Part of the movie "Excalibur" was shot there.
It is in the province of Piacenza, 20 minutes car from my home.
These are the coordinates for Google Earth:
Lat. 44°51'13.19"N
Long. 9°52'14.82"E
And this is the borgo portal:
http://www.castellarquato.com/eng/index.php

peterqd wrote:

Have you seen this - it's too expensive for me right now:
Click here to see on Ebay


Yes - Contarex. Probably the most gorgeous camera and lens set ever built.
Also one of the most expensive (not to mention one of the less compatible with digital cameras).
Sad


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PostPosted: Wed Nov 21, 2007 1:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

peterqd wrote:
There's no way to look at the filenames of the pics Orio. Could you use the frame numbers in the slideshow?


The image I am talking about it that with the many green leaves: sixth column, fourth row.

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 21, 2007 1:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Orio wrote:
... and, most importantly, the filename shows up in the bottom bar.
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Oh yes! I never noticed that before Smile


PostPosted: Fri Mar 30, 2012 11:32 am    Post subject: Repost first 2 photos? Reply with quote

Orio,

Is it possible to repost the first two photos you referenced in your original post of this thead, please? Something happened to them and they can't be viewed any more.

I have this gem of a lens and agree it must be quite rare. I bought mine for 60 EUR on eBay.

Joseph


PostPosted: Fri Mar 30, 2012 11:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quote:
Part of the movie "Excalibur" was shot there.


And many shots from "Ladyhawke" as well.


PostPosted: Fri Mar 30, 2012 12:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Aanything wrote:
Quote:
Part of the movie "Excalibur" was shot there.


And many shots from "Ladyhawke" as well.


In fact, it was Ladyhawke exactly, not Excalibur.
My mistake, I'm not a big fan of those fantasy movies Smile


PostPosted: Fri Mar 30, 2012 1:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Excalibur is far better than ladyhawke, anyway.


PostPosted: Sat Mar 31, 2012 1:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Shows what a difference the T coating makes. I have a slightly later 2.8/50 Tessar without the T and it's excellent, very sharp like all Tessars but it lacks the spectacular dimensionality of Orio's Tessar T.




This is a scan of a shot with my Tessar on Fujicolor 200 in an old Praktica FX2:




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PostPosted: Sat Mar 31, 2012 1:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm not a big fan of the 50/2.8 Tessar. I had several of them and I simply don't like it's bokeh and colors (at least with the non coated-versions)

But I'm curious about this old 50/3.5 as it has slightly differen design.
Was it also a kit-lens?

Please Orio, could you reup the pics?