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Orio
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 Posted: Sat Oct 02, 2010 10:39 pm Post subject: Zeiss and Meyer books with serial numbers |
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 Posted: Sat Oct 02, 2010 10:39 pm Post subject: Zeiss and Meyer books with serial numbers |
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Orio wrote:
Today at noon in front of my house door I have found a long awaited package. Content? Books!
There are three big books about Carl Zeiss production, the first book goes from the beginning to 1927, the second book (way the largest) covers all Jena production from 1927 until the end of the Jena factory (1991), and the third book covers the production of the west Zeiss at Oberkochen, from post WWII until today.
The two smaller books are, one again about Carl Zeiss Jena, and the other one is about the whole production of Meyer-Optik Goerlitz.
It was a big purchase (about 150 Euros) but hopefully one that will provide good info forever. Thanks much to Klaus (KDS) for pointing us to the books and the shop.
The books reconstruct, for each lens, the production story, the years, serial numbers, batches, and they are very complete. _________________ Orio, Administrator
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Attila
 Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 57982
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Attila wrote:
Congrats!! |
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dude163
 Joined: 21 Mar 2010 Posts: 726 Location: New Brunswick , Canada
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dude163 wrote:
Cool!
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Farside
 Joined: 01 Sep 2007 Posts: 6579 Location: Ireland
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Farside wrote:
What an excellent addition to any bookshelf.
Now, about this lens...  _________________ Dave - Moderator
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Boomer Depp
 Joined: 08 Oct 2009 Posts: 552 Location: Kingston,Washighton
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Boomer Depp wrote:
Hartmut Thiele has written quite a few books on the production history of more then a few European camera and lens manufacturers.Here are a few links to ordering some of his books.
http://www.lindemanns.de/shop/fotobuchhandlung/64015t-thiele-hartmut-fabrikationsbuch-photooptik-ii.php
Meyer Optik
http://www.lindemanns.de/shop/fotobuchhandlung/64066m-meyer-optik-thiele-hartmut-kleines-fabrikationsbuch-meyer-optik.php?sid=4bf57708dbb09&ruck=64020t-thiele-hartmut-fabrikationsbuch-photooptik-iii.php _________________ Trust that little voice in your head that says "Wouldn't it be interesting if...." And then do it. |
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exaklaus
 Joined: 11 Aug 2009 Posts: 1633 Location: Niederrhein, Germany
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exaklaus wrote:
Great!, but you've missed to order Hartrmut's Schneider-Kreuznach books!
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Orio
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 29545 Location: West Emilia
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Orio wrote:
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Great!, but you've missed to order Hartrmut's Schneider-Kreuznach books!
Greetings
Klaus |
I didn't have enough money on my prepaid card
I'll buy it next round when Leica book is released
EDIT: BTW Klaus, do you know of a way to contact him? I have found some empties or quirks in his Oberkochen book. _________________ Orio, Administrator
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LucisPictor
 Joined: 26 Feb 2007 Posts: 17633 Location: Oberhessen, Germany / Maidstone ('95-'96)
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LucisPictor wrote:
Thiele is a well known author about lenses. Perhaps the greatest expert concerning old German glass.
Since he is also the publisher of most of his books, you should be able to contact him via the publisher's address.
I'd gladly offer you help in translating into German, Orio. _________________ Personal forum activity on pause every now and again (due to job obligations)!
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martyn_bannister
 Joined: 23 May 2010 Posts: 1151
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martyn_bannister wrote:
I like the look of the Meyer Gorlitz book, but I don't read German No english translation I suppose? |
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kds315*
 Joined: 12 Mar 2008 Posts: 16904 Location: Kehl, Germany
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kds315* wrote:
It really needs a heck of german understanding to translate
12.10.1953 9.345.789 Tessar M42
I guess - would that be English, I would be totally lost...
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Lomo Уфар-12 f2.5/41mm
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Lomo ZIKAR-1A f1.2/100mm
Nikon UV Nikkor f4.5/105mm
Zeiss UV-Sonnar f4.3/105mm
CERCO UV-VIS-NIR f1.8/45mm
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Steinheil Quarzobjektiv f1.8/50mm
Pentax Quartz Takumar f3.5/85mm
Carl Zeiss Jena UV-Objektiv f4/60mm
NYE OPTICAL Lyman-Alpha II f1.1/90mm
NYE OPTICAL Lyman-Alpha I f2.8/200mm
COASTAL OPTICS f4/60mm UV-VIS-IR Apo
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Orio
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Orio wrote:
Good photo, Klaus, much sexier than mine  _________________ Orio, Administrator
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kds315*
 Joined: 12 Mar 2008 Posts: 16904 Location: Kehl, Germany
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kds315* wrote:
not mine, from Zeiss, I had shown that already in my original announcement of these books. It shows also the inside and that no language skills are needed to understand these lists. _________________ Klaus - Admin
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Currently most FAV lens(es):
X80QF f3.2/80mm
Hypergon f11/26mm
ELCAN UV f5.6/52mm
Zeiss UV-Planar f4/60mm
Zeiss UV-Planar f2/62mm
Lomo Уфар-12 f2.5/41mm
Lomo Зуфар-2 f4.0/350mm
Lomo ZIKAR-1A f1.2/100mm
Nikon UV Nikkor f4.5/105mm
Zeiss UV-Sonnar f4.3/105mm
CERCO UV-VIS-NIR f1.8/45mm
CERCO UV-VIS-NIR f4.1/94mm
CERCO UV-VIS-NIR f2.8/100mm
Steinheil Quarzobjektiv f1.8/50mm
Pentax Quartz Takumar f3.5/85mm
Carl Zeiss Jena UV-Objektiv f4/60mm
NYE OPTICAL Lyman-Alpha II f1.1/90mm
NYE OPTICAL Lyman-Alpha I f2.8/200mm
COASTAL OPTICS f4/60mm UV-VIS-IR Apo
COASTAL OPTICS f4.5/105mm UV-Micro-Apo
Pentax Ultra-Achromatic Takumar f4.5/85mm
Pentax Ultra-Achromatic Takumar f5.6/300mm
Rodenstock UV-Rodagon f5.6/60mm + 105mm + 150mm
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landstrykere
 Joined: 10 Feb 2018 Posts: 66 Location: Norge
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 Posted: Sat Dec 14, 2024 11:35 pm Post subject: Kleines oder Großes ? |
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 Posted: Sat Dec 14, 2024 11:35 pm Post subject: Kleines oder Großes ? |
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landstrykere wrote:
web search about Aristostigmat lenses brings me here.
I recently bought a 1950 or so Aristostigmat 100mm f6,3 after I read some of the 100mm barely covers 13x18/5x7 planfilm.
It seems to be the case with no movement. Like this at f32 (but I have to inspect the camera to check if the top right corner vignetting there is mechanical.)
zoomed bust name:
this is at f16 and only slight vignetting:
100% zoomed detail:
#######
so these Aristostigmat are interesting, info available online is that the older version, brass barrel in F9 has more coverage. But then it is unclear about possible variations of the F6,3 pre-WW2 Meyer brochure mentions 90° angle of view, and 105° for the F9, and meant for Postkarte format to ½-platte, with the 120mm for 5x7.
I may hunt for a F9 or another variant of the F6.3, and also for the 120mm but would like to have most information possible.
I created an account on grossformatfotografie.de but my email still not validated by some admin there, so can't post.
I found this 2010 thread. I see that since the Kleines Buch Hartmut Thiele has written a Großes one in a main volume plus a supplement. The Kleines is not longer available at Lindemanns shop, but I have seen one on Booklooker.
Just wondering if the Kleines would suffice for all available docs about the Aristostigmat, or better buy the Großes ? |
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kds315*
 Joined: 12 Mar 2008 Posts: 16904 Location: Kehl, Germany
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kds315* wrote:
"Kleines" is not a title - it just means "Small" in German  _________________ Klaus - Admin
"S'il vient a point, me souviendra" [Thomas Bohier (1460-1523)]
http://www.macrolenses.de for macro and special lens info
http://www.pbase.com/kds315/uv_photos for UV Images and lens/filter info
https://www.flickr.com/photos/kds315/albums my albums using various lenses
http://photographyoftheinvisibleworld.blogspot.com/ my UV BLOG
http://www.travelmeetsfood.com/blog Food + Travel BLOG
https://galeriafotografia.com Architecture + Drone photography
Currently most FAV lens(es):
X80QF f3.2/80mm
Hypergon f11/26mm
ELCAN UV f5.6/52mm
Zeiss UV-Planar f4/60mm
Zeiss UV-Planar f2/62mm
Lomo Уфар-12 f2.5/41mm
Lomo Зуфар-2 f4.0/350mm
Lomo ZIKAR-1A f1.2/100mm
Nikon UV Nikkor f4.5/105mm
Zeiss UV-Sonnar f4.3/105mm
CERCO UV-VIS-NIR f1.8/45mm
CERCO UV-VIS-NIR f4.1/94mm
CERCO UV-VIS-NIR f2.8/100mm
Steinheil Quarzobjektiv f1.8/50mm
Pentax Quartz Takumar f3.5/85mm
Carl Zeiss Jena UV-Objektiv f4/60mm
NYE OPTICAL Lyman-Alpha II f1.1/90mm
NYE OPTICAL Lyman-Alpha I f2.8/200mm
COASTAL OPTICS f4/60mm UV-VIS-IR Apo
COASTAL OPTICS f4.5/105mm UV-Micro-Apo
Pentax Ultra-Achromatic Takumar f4.5/85mm
Pentax Ultra-Achromatic Takumar f5.6/300mm
Rodenstock UV-Rodagon f5.6/60mm + 105mm + 150mm
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