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alelinuxbsd
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 Posted: Mon Aug 17, 2009 3:47 pm Post subject: Which alternative to the pentax-DA 50-200 AF? |
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alelinuxbsd wrote:
Is it pensable buy some unknown zoom brand and obtain some good shoot? 
Despite the nuisance of the lack of the AF?
Probably i will buy a 135 mm but i will have a lack about 200 or better 300 mm  but when i see the price of fixed lens on this focal length i don't find it very interesting (at least here in Europe). 
I would think about use a zoom at his maximum focal length and possible a zoom don't too dark. |
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Farside
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| Posted: Mon Aug 17, 2009 11:47 pm Post subject: Re: Which alternative to the pentax-DA 50-200 AF? |
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Farside wrote:
| alelinuxbsd wrote: |
Is it pensable buy some unknown zoom brand and obtain some good shoot?
Despite the nuisance of the lack of the AF?
Probably i will buy a 135 mm but i will have a lack about 200 or better 300 mm but when i see the price of fixed lens on this focal length i don't find it very interesting (at least here in Europe).
I would think about use a zoom at his maximum focal length and possible a zoom don't too dark. |
Have a look for a Tamron SP 60-300 f:3.8-5.4 I'm sure you won't be disappointed.
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alelinuxbsd
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| Posted: Tue Aug 18, 2009 5:28 am Post subject: |
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alelinuxbsd wrote:
Nice but a little too expensive for me.
Perhaps is better if i see 200 mm rather then 300 mm. |
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soikka
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| Posted: Tue Aug 18, 2009 5:53 am Post subject: |
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soikka wrote:
I have the DA50-200 and some MF zoom lenses who share the same focal length.
Perhaps all of them a little sharper than DA50-200.
None of them so resistant to flare (haven't really compared though) and none of them have the same size.
Colors are also great with DA50-200.
It really depends on what you want. DA50-200 is a great, cheap and small travel zoom in good light.
If you look for similar qualities and longer focal length, maybe Pentax M135/3.5 or M200/4 come to my mind. MF zooms are usually bigger, but M75-150, A70-210 or Tamron SP 70-210 are safe choises.... and there are a lot of others.
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Spotmatic
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| Posted: Tue Aug 18, 2009 6:12 am Post subject: |
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Spotmatic wrote:
If you want an all-metal and glass lens with AF, then the SMC Pentax-F 70-210 (NOT the PentaxF 70-200 without SMC!) is a great and sharp lens. Maybe you can find one for cheap, I liked it when I visited Rome earlier in 2008. I made this night shot with the 70-210:
There's also the earlier, and non-AF, SMC Pentax-A 70-210 with a constant f/4. It's said that the A version is even better, although I haven't used it personally.
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alelinuxbsd
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| Posted: Tue Aug 18, 2009 7:19 am Post subject: |
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alelinuxbsd wrote:
Thanks i see some price about these alternative lens.
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In Italy the price of the lens (and don't only the lens) are crazy.
Pentax 55-200mm: 170 euro (italian warranty) 
Pentax 55-300mm: 329 euro (italian warranty) |
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soikka
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| Posted: Tue Aug 18, 2009 7:39 am Post subject: |
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soikka wrote:
| alelinuxbsd wrote: |
Thanks i see some price about these alternative lens.
Note:
In Italy the price of the lens (and don't only the lens) are crazy.
Pentax 55-200mm: 170 euro (italian warranty)
Pentax 55-300mm: 329 euro (italian warranty) |
Those prices seem normal today in EU.
There is plenty of cheap alternative available tele-lenses especially with manual focus for instance in ebay.
If AF is needed, the F-70-210/4-5.6 that spotmatic recommended is also a great lens. However don't know how easy it is to find a bargain price.
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orly_andico
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| Posted: Tue Aug 18, 2009 8:55 am Post subject: |
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orly_andico wrote:
KEH has the Pentax-F for $76.
They have the SMC-F for $99. |
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alelinuxbsd
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| Posted: Tue Aug 18, 2009 8:55 am Post subject: |
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alelinuxbsd wrote:
These price are the "best price" that i find for item with italian warranty because if i see "normal" price they are even more high!
Even 300 euro for a 50-200!
I see even some other zoom above indicates but the difference in prices is too limited.
Especially if a see item with europen warranty and not italian warranty. |
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Spotmatic
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| Posted: Tue Aug 18, 2009 11:12 am Post subject: |
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Spotmatic wrote:
In a shop nearby here in The Netherlands the Pentax DA 50-200 costs -new!- 99 euros.
http://www.cameranu.nl/artikel/6179/Pentax_SMC_DA_50-200mm_F4.0-5.6_ED.html
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Farside
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| Posted: Tue Aug 18, 2009 11:48 am Post subject: |
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Farside wrote:
| alelinuxbsd wrote: |
Nice but a little too expensive for me.
Perhaps is better if i see 200 mm rather then 300 mm. |
Depends then, if you can live with a 80-210, then the Tamron 103A goes for dirt cheap. It was one of the most sold lenses in that range and is consistently under-priced. Keep your eyes on ebay and you'll get one for 10-20 euros.
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ManualFocus-G
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ManualFocus-G wrote:
| Farside wrote: |
| alelinuxbsd wrote: |
Nice but a little too expensive for me.
Perhaps is better if i see 200 mm rather then 300 mm. |
Depends then, if you can live with a 80-210, then the Tamron 103A goes for dirt cheap. It was one of the most sold lenses in that range and is consistently under-priced. Keep your eyes on ebay and you'll get one for 10-20 euros. |
Plus you won't need a warranty if it's rubbish  Just sell it on and buy another 
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alelinuxbsd
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alelinuxbsd wrote:
I don't understand the language but i understand very well the price.
Incredible.
Now i want cry. 
I put that link on my bookmark to eternal memory of the difference between price on Europe.
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Probably none known that in Italy we are all richer for these we pay products much more expensive than in the other Countries (Europe included).   |
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