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uhoh7
Joined: 24 Nov 2010 Posts: 1300 Location: Idaho, USA
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Posted: Mon Oct 14, 2013 3:29 pm Post subject: Sony A7r, gamechanger, to be announced Wed |
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uhoh7 wrote:
E-mount, FF, weathersealed, tilt screen, evf from em-1, no AA filter, sensor optimized for short flange lenses. It may outperform M240 with leica wides.
Will be announced 10/16/13 _________________ Making MFlenses safe for the letter *L* |
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raay04
Joined: 08 Dec 2012 Posts: 340 Location: India
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Posted: Mon Oct 14, 2013 4:06 pm Post subject: |
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raay04 wrote:
I dont like the shutter button position ,i dont care much for Looks of the camera though _________________ Cameras-Point and shoot- Powershot A590IS Mirroless-SONY NEX-3
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M42 Mount
Super-Takumar 55/1.8, Super-Takumar 50/1.4 ,SMC Takumar 50/1.4 ,MC Helios 44M7-58/2,MC Helios 77M-4 50/1.8,Helios 44-2(valdai), Zenitar-M 50/1.7 Pentacon 50/1.8, MC Jupiter-37AM 135/3.5, Industar 50-2 50/3.5
Nikon F mount
Vivitar close focus 28/2.8(Komine) Keleinar 5N 100/2.8
LTM
Jupiter 8 50/2
KIEV
Jupiter8M ( element donor lens )
Minolta SR(MD)
MD 35/1.8, MD 35-70/3.5 macro, MD 50/1.4 ,Vivitar Auto macro 55/2.8,
Canon FD
FDn50/1.4
Minolta AF
Vivitar (cosina) 100/3.5 macro
Minolta AF 35-70/4
Enlarger
EL NIKKOR 50/2.8
Adaptall
Tamron 24/2.5 , Tamron sp 90/2.5 |
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Nordentro
Joined: 24 Jun 2010 Posts: 4713 Location: Lillehammer, Norway
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Posted: Mon Oct 14, 2013 4:30 pm Post subject: |
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Nordentro wrote:
So now I need to get one of these Super Wide Heliars
We also have another thread about the topic here:
http://forum.mflenses.com/sony-will-launch-two-olympus-omd-alike-full-frame-e-mount-t61841.html _________________ Lars | Manuellfokus.no |
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raay04
Joined: 08 Dec 2012 Posts: 340 Location: India
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Posted: Mon Oct 14, 2013 5:27 pm Post subject: |
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raay04 wrote:
the camera semms to be designed by the same people who designed the OMD -EM1 .nearly same outlines ,specially the fake prism EVF _________________ Cameras-Point and shoot- Powershot A590IS Mirroless-SONY NEX-3
Lenses
M42 Mount
Super-Takumar 55/1.8, Super-Takumar 50/1.4 ,SMC Takumar 50/1.4 ,MC Helios 44M7-58/2,MC Helios 77M-4 50/1.8,Helios 44-2(valdai), Zenitar-M 50/1.7 Pentacon 50/1.8, MC Jupiter-37AM 135/3.5, Industar 50-2 50/3.5
Nikon F mount
Vivitar close focus 28/2.8(Komine) Keleinar 5N 100/2.8
LTM
Jupiter 8 50/2
KIEV
Jupiter8M ( element donor lens )
Minolta SR(MD)
MD 35/1.8, MD 35-70/3.5 macro, MD 50/1.4 ,Vivitar Auto macro 55/2.8,
Canon FD
FDn50/1.4
Minolta AF
Vivitar (cosina) 100/3.5 macro
Minolta AF 35-70/4
Enlarger
EL NIKKOR 50/2.8
Adaptall
Tamron 24/2.5 , Tamron sp 90/2.5 |
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Nordentro
Joined: 24 Jun 2010 Posts: 4713 Location: Lillehammer, Norway
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Posted: Mon Oct 14, 2013 5:40 pm Post subject: |
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Nordentro wrote:
raay04 wrote: |
the camera semms to be designed by the same people who designed the OMD -EM1 .nearly same outlines ,specially the fake prism EVF |
A Olympus camera in Sony clothes, I like it I would rather also say just EVF, not "fake prism" EVF _________________ Lars | Manuellfokus.no |
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Attila
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 57850 Location: Hungary
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Posted: Mon Oct 14, 2013 6:13 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
Nordentro wrote: |
raay04 wrote: |
the camera semms to be designed by the same people who designed the OMD -EM1 .nearly same outlines ,specially the fake prism EVF |
A Olympus camera in Sony clothes, I like it I would rather also say just EVF, not "fake prism" EVF |
+1 I wish to have both. _________________ -------------------------------
Items on sale on Ebay
Sony NEX-7 Carl Zeiss Planar 85mm f1.4, Minolta MD 35mm f1.8, Konica 135mm f2.5, Minolta MD 50mm f1.2, Minolta MD 250mm f5.6, Carl Zeiss Sonnar 180mm f2.8
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iangreenhalgh1
Joined: 18 Mar 2011 Posts: 15685
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Posted: Mon Oct 14, 2013 6:27 pm Post subject: |
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iangreenhalgh1 wrote:
It's a bit early to be calling it a gamechanger, let's wait until people have actually got to try it out. _________________ I don't care who designed it, who made it or what country it comes from - I just enjoy using it! |
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Orio
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 29545 Location: West Emilia
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Posted: Mon Oct 14, 2013 8:43 pm Post subject: |
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Orio wrote:
It should outperform a machine gun? Dang, it must shoot very fast in continuous mode!
http://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/M240 _________________ Orio, Administrator
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Attila
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 57850 Location: Hungary
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Posted: Mon Oct 14, 2013 9:53 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
iangreenhalgh1 wrote: |
It's a bit early to be calling it a gamechanger, let's wait until people have actually got to try it out. |
That is not an issue , people will take it surely and love it, luxury items have always market. _________________ -------------------------------
Items on sale on Ebay
Sony NEX-7 Carl Zeiss Planar 85mm f1.4, Minolta MD 35mm f1.8, Konica 135mm f2.5, Minolta MD 50mm f1.2, Minolta MD 250mm f5.6, Carl Zeiss Sonnar 180mm f2.8
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uhoh7
Joined: 24 Nov 2010 Posts: 1300 Location: Idaho, USA
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Posted: Tue Oct 15, 2013 1:25 am Post subject: |
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uhoh7 wrote:
Nordentro wrote: |
raay04 wrote: |
the camera semms to be designed by the same people who designed the OMD -EM1 .nearly same outlines ,specially the fake prism EVF |
A Olympus camera in Sony clothes, I like it I would rather also say just EVF, not "fake prism" EVF |
The oly has a 4/3 sensor, A7 has full frame. No more crop on legacy lenses. Short flange and sensor tuned for it. Especially on this forum I would expect people to see the incredible ambition of this machine--and appreciate it.
Sure, we need to see it in action, that will be soon enough, as I and many others will pre-order asap.
Reminds me of the nex-5, a fantastic camera, which was endlessly poo-pooed for one silly reason after another.
Today it's the EVF fashionistas who think it's a pretend hump. Just for posing. OMG, really? That's all you got? I don't like where the evf is? I hate the hump? How shallow can you get?
Far as I'm concerned they could leave the EVF off all together. Paint it pink. If it works with my zm18 or other RF wides, it's a dream come true for those who are interested in a small form hi-rez shoot the best lenses type body.
Whatever. All I can say is: thank you sony. Nobody else has bothered. You actually came up with the machine. One hump or two, if it shoots the great glass FF it's going to be a huge hit. _________________ Making MFlenses safe for the letter *L* |
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ForenSeil
Joined: 15 Apr 2011 Posts: 2726 Location: Kiel, Germany.
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Posted: Tue Oct 15, 2013 1:41 am Post subject: |
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ForenSeil wrote:
I WILL BUY IT I NEED IT AAAAHHHH A DREAM BECOMES TRUE
I hope it will have:
-good ISO performance up to 6400
-vibration free shutter (for macro)
-a silent shutter
-a fast menue
-no color fringing with RF wide angles _________________ I'm not a collector, I'm a tester
My camera: Sony A7+Zeiss Sonnar 55/1.8
Current favourite lenses (I have many more):
A few macro-Tominons, Samyang 12/2.8, Noritsu 50.7/9.5, Rodagon 105/5.6 on bellows, Samyang 135/2, Nikon ED 180/2.8, Leitz Elmar-R 250/4, Celestron C8 2000mm F10
Most wanted: Samyang 24/1.4, Samyang 35/1.4, Nikon 200/2 ED
My Blog: http://picturechemistry.own-blog.com/
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Nordentro
Joined: 24 Jun 2010 Posts: 4713 Location: Lillehammer, Norway
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Posted: Tue Oct 15, 2013 6:08 am Post subject: |
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Nordentro wrote:
uhoh7 wrote: |
Nordentro wrote: |
raay04 wrote: |
the camera semms to be designed by the same people who designed the OMD -EM1 .nearly same outlines ,specially the fake prism EVF |
A Olympus camera in Sony clothes, I like it I would rather also say just EVF, not "fake prism" EVF |
The oly has a 4/3 sensor, A7 has full frame. No more crop on legacy lenses. Short flange and sensor tuned for it. Especially on this forum I would expect people to see the incredible ambition of this machine--and appreciate it.
Sure, we need to see it in action, that will be soon enough, as I and many others will pre-order asap.
Reminds me of the nex-5, a fantastic camera, which was endlessly poo-pooed for one silly reason after another.
Today it's the EVF fashionistas who think it's a pretend hump. Just for posing. OMG, really? That's all you got? I don't like where the evf is? I hate the hump? How shallow can you get?
Far as I'm concerned they could leave the EVF off all together. Paint it pink. If it works with my zm18 or other RF wides, it's a dream come true for those who are interested in a small form hi-rez shoot the best lenses type body.
Whatever. All I can say is: thank you sony. Nobody else has bothered. You actually came up with the machine. One hump or two, if it shoots the great glass FF it's going to be a huge hit. |
I fully agree
I almost feel like one of thoses Apple fans in a sleeping bag waiting for the new iThing
And if you are not convinced, see what sony can do here _________________ Lars | Manuellfokus.no |
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Alex H
Joined: 25 Dec 2011 Posts: 344
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Posted: Tue Oct 15, 2013 6:16 am Post subject: |
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Alex H wrote:
uhoh7 wrote: |
I don't like where the evf is? |
I do like the camera, but I do not like where EVF is located. I use my left eye when taking pictures and would prefer to have more space between my nose and my right hand, like in NEX-6/7, at least for better air circulation. I have the same issue with all SLR cameras I used. No need to offend people who may genuinely have different needs than You do. |
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kuuan
Joined: 14 Jan 2008 Posts: 4573 Location: right now: Austria
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Posted: Tue Oct 15, 2013 6:36 am Post subject: |
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kuuan wrote:
+ 1 uhoh7 and Nordentro
if it was the camera of my design or wishes already there are a few things that can tell that I wanted to be different, but hey: a FF camera that accepts pretty much any lens incl. RF lenses for considerably less than or just over 2000 usd ( depending on model ) offering great aids for manual focusing..one would think that mflens users must be overjoyed. Certainly I am, size and weight ( or price in case of M9 ) so far were the factors that made FF inaccessible to me, now, for the first time, it's a realistic option. _________________ my photos on flickr: https://www.flickr.com/photos/kuuan/collections |
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hoanpham
Joined: 31 Jan 2011 Posts: 2575
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Posted: Tue Oct 15, 2013 6:51 am Post subject: |
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hoanpham wrote:
count me in. i m going for the 36Mpx.
The collection of FD/FL, MD/MC, AR, Ltm, and rf lenses can be utilized. |
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kds315*
Joined: 12 Mar 2008 Posts: 16552 Location: Weinheim, Germany
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Posted: Tue Oct 15, 2013 6:58 am Post subject: |
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kds315* wrote:
Alex H wrote: |
uhoh7 wrote: |
I don't like where the evf is? |
I do like the camera, but I do not like where EVF is located. I use my left eye when taking pictures and would prefer to have more space between my nose and my right hand, like in NEX-6/7, at least for better air circulation. I have the same issue with all SLR cameras I used. No need to offend people who may genuinely have different needs than You do. |
Oh well, which camera does it right for everybody? I'm just used to adjust to what I have and work from there.
FF and 36MP should be reason enough...although I don't need either. _________________ Klaus - Admin
"S'il vient a point, me souviendra" [Thomas Bohier (1460-1523)]
http://www.macrolenses.de for macro and special lens info
http://www.pbase.com/kds315/uv_photos for UV Images and lens/filter info
https://www.flickr.com/photos/kds315/albums my albums using various lenses
http://photographyoftheinvisibleworld.blogspot.com/ my UV BLOG
http://www.travelmeetsfood.com/blog Food + Travel BLOG
https://galeriafotografia.com Architecture + Drone photography
Currently most FAV lens(es):
X80QF f3.2/80mm
Hypergon f11/26mm
ELCAN UV f5.6/52mm
Zeiss UV-Planar f4/60mm
Zeiss UV-Planar f2/62mm
Lomo Уфар-12 f2.5/41mm
Lomo Зуфар-2 f4.0/350mm
Lomo ZIKAR-1A f1.2/100mm
Nikon UV Nikkor f4.5/105mm
Zeiss UV-Sonnar f4.3/105mm
CERCO UV-VIS-NIR f1.8/45mm
CERCO UV-VIS-NIR f4.1/94mm
CERCO UV-VIS-NIR f2.8/100mm
Steinheil Quarzobjektiv f1.8/50mm
Pentax Quartz Takumar f3.5/85mm
Carl Zeiss Jena UV-Objektiv f4/60mm
NYE OPTICAL Lyman-Alpha II f1.1/90mm
NYE OPTICAL Lyman-Alpha I f2.8/200mm
COASTAL OPTICS f4/60mm UV-VIS-IR Apo
COASTAL OPTICS f4.5/105mm UV-Micro-Apo
Pentax Ultra-Achromatic Takumar f4.5/85mm
Pentax Ultra-Achromatic Takumar f5.6/300mm
Rodenstock UV-Rodagon f5.6/60mm + 105mm + 150mm
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anktonio
Joined: 20 Oct 2012 Posts: 219 Location: Spain
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Posted: Tue Oct 15, 2013 6:59 am Post subject: |
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anktonio wrote:
I see a significant lack: No stabilization. This is two EV, not a thing that have fun me. Sony has always built stabilization to all models except NEX. Stabilization involves larger bodies, better ergonomics and lenses much smaller and much easier to build. This is so disappointing to think slowly the order... if order.
Seem right everything else, but for me this deficiency is hard to forgive.
Happy shots!
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ZoneV
Joined: 09 Nov 2009 Posts: 1633 Location: Germany
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Posted: Tue Oct 15, 2013 7:05 am Post subject: |
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ZoneV wrote:
I don´t like Sony as a camera manufacturer (but I like their sensors). And I don´t like the design of the camera, the EOS 5D. I don´t know how good the viewfinder will be - at the moment I can not think of it as good as an optical viewfinder (but I see some benefits)
But the short register distance is a very interessting thing.
I am very curious to see how the microlenses + sensor work with for example rangefinder wideangle lenses - and long Novoflex or other lenses as well. _________________ Camera modification, repair and DIY - some links to look through: http://www.4photos.de/camera-diy/index-en.html
I AM A LENS NERD!
Epis, Elmaron, Emerald, Ernostar, Helioplan and Heidosmat.
Epiotar, Kameraobjektiv, Anastigmat, Epis, Meganast, Magnagon, Quinar, Culmigon, Novotrinast, Novflexar, Colorplan, Sekor, Kinon, Talon, Telemegor, Xenon, Xenar, Ultra, Ultra Star. Tessar, Janar, Visionar, Kiptar, Kipronar and Rotelar.
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hoanpham
Joined: 31 Jan 2011 Posts: 2575
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Posted: Tue Oct 15, 2013 7:50 am Post subject: |
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hoanpham wrote:
anktonio wrote: |
I see a significant lack: No stabilization. This is two EV, not a thing that have fun me. Sony has always built stabilization to all models except NEX. Stabilization involves larger bodies, better ergonomics and lenses much smaller and much easier to build. This is so disappointing to think slowly the order... if order.
Seem right everything else, but for me this deficiency is hard to forgive.
Happy shots! |
Seen from a marketing point, I would like to release a FF nex first or as soon as possible to capture the market share.
Then release slightly better models at the later time. Always something new/newer is coming. I don't think members in this forum ever need anything, either lenses nor bodies, but just nice to have |
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Rick1779
Joined: 17 May 2013 Posts: 1207 Location: Italy
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Posted: Tue Oct 15, 2013 8:00 am Post subject: |
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Rick1779 wrote:
raay04 wrote: |
I dont like the shutter button position ,i dont care much for Looks of the camera though |
+1
totally agree! |
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Rick1779
Joined: 17 May 2013 Posts: 1207 Location: Italy
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Posted: Tue Oct 15, 2013 8:04 am Post subject: |
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Rick1779 wrote:
the 15mm is great on the nex5n and, according to rumors, sensor "is a new version made for these cameras and to avoid issues on corners because of the very short flange distance" so they shouldn't go bad on the 2 new a7s |
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ForenSeil
Joined: 15 Apr 2011 Posts: 2726 Location: Kiel, Germany.
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Posted: Tue Oct 15, 2013 11:03 am Post subject: |
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ForenSeil wrote:
Alex H wrote: |
uhoh7 wrote: |
I don't like where the evf is? |
I do like the camera, but I do not like where EVF is located. I use my left eye when taking pictures and would prefer to have more space between my nose and my right hand, like in NEX-6/7, at least for better air circulation. I have the same issue with all SLR cameras I used. No need to offend people who may genuinely have different needs than You do. |
Oh crap, I'm also using my left eye _________________ I'm not a collector, I'm a tester
My camera: Sony A7+Zeiss Sonnar 55/1.8
Current favourite lenses (I have many more):
A few macro-Tominons, Samyang 12/2.8, Noritsu 50.7/9.5, Rodagon 105/5.6 on bellows, Samyang 135/2, Nikon ED 180/2.8, Leitz Elmar-R 250/4, Celestron C8 2000mm F10
Most wanted: Samyang 24/1.4, Samyang 35/1.4, Nikon 200/2 ED
My Blog: http://picturechemistry.own-blog.com/
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iangreenhalgh1
Joined: 18 Mar 2011 Posts: 15685
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Posted: Tue Oct 15, 2013 11:17 am Post subject: |
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iangreenhalgh1 wrote:
I use my left eye too and I've never found a camera where this was a problem.
So much nit-picking going on and the camera hasn't even bee released yet! _________________ I don't care who designed it, who made it or what country it comes from - I just enjoy using it! |
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uhoh7
Joined: 24 Nov 2010 Posts: 1300 Location: Idaho, USA
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Posted: Tue Oct 15, 2013 2:57 pm Post subject: |
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uhoh7 wrote:
leaked overview from digilloyd:
http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache%3Ahttp%3A%2F%2Fcache.nevkontakte.com%2Fproxy.html#go=http://diglloyd.com/blog/2013/20131015_2-Sony-A7R.html
Sony live announcement 11pm PST. link at sonyalpharumours, _________________ Making MFlenses safe for the letter *L* |
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trifox
Joined: 14 May 2008 Posts: 3614 Location: UK
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Posted: Tue Oct 15, 2013 5:42 pm Post subject: |
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trifox wrote:
if this is true news, we can expect a very cruel fight for lenses in the nearest future.
I would say that the prices will rise sharply.
BTW - the camera is absolutely all right, well, if the description says what it says.
The mirror simply must go and leave more room for the future and further development - in my opinion
tf _________________ Flickr.com |
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