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Sony A7r, gamechanger, to be announced Wed
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 06, 2013 6:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Nordentro,

My Takumars and co are waiting in a drawer.
I am thinking of the A7r.
Thanks for your feedback.

Philippe


PostPosted: Sun Dec 08, 2013 8:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nordentro wrote:
I got my m42 adapter today! Wow, this is fun! Takumars, Helioses, Jenas, Meyers etc Very Happy

I have a lot to do with my A7R now!

A guy told me that the A7(R) use the same battery as NEX cameras?!? Can somebody confirm, and is ther cheap china ones to buy?? Surprised


Yes it's the same battery type in all Sony NEX, Sony A7/r and also many Sony Alpha DSLRs but there are incompatiblitly issues with noname batteries!
When upgrading from NEX-3 to NEX-5N I had to throw away several chinese batteries (not all, only a few).
Cameras always said something like "Wrong voltage, replace battery as it may a have defect" or similar after a few shots.
I would recommend to wait a few weeks until seller advertises that it works with A7/r, otherwise it's a bit gambling.
At the moment I only have original batteries.


PostPosted: Sun Dec 08, 2013 9:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've bought the original screen protector already before I bought the A7 and I put it on the camera before starting to play around with it Very Happy

Sony camera screens are very sensitive, like with my Sony NEX-5N which is 2 years old and now looks like a used lottery scratch ticket Sad
That's highly decreasing used market price.

raay04 wrote:
Nordentro wrote:
raay04 wrote:
I have a question for those who already are using the A7s , how is the ergonomics ,i mean to say the focus assist button and cycling magnified view ?? can the magnified view be scrolled with the rear thumb wheel/dial?? can the focus assist be custom assisted to a button near the shuter release or the C2 button??


There is a timer on the magnified view (2 or 5 seconds or just button on off). There is also 2 step magnified view by default, one click = close, two click = closer. Ergonomics are very good for such a small camera IMO. The C2 button is the magnified view by default. I havent tried to assign another button because this works just nice Wink

Thank You nordento !! looks like it is far superior than any NEX


I've set it on the button in the middle of the wheel - imho it's much better there than on C2

@raay
Why it's far superior than any other NEX? It's exactly the same like on every NEX! Or did I miss something?


PostPosted: Tue Dec 10, 2013 12:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Zeiss ZM C(lassic)-Sonnar 50/1,5 first wide open, second maybe F2.3
high ISO, no PP, noise reduction etc. off






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PostPosted: Tue Dec 10, 2013 1:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ForenSeil wrote:
Zeiss ZM C(lassic)-Sonnar 50/1,5 wide open
high ISO, no PP, noise reduction etc. off
http://www.flickr.com/photos/54671350@N02/11297118185


thanks for showing.

in some pictures I recognized some spots.
visible best in this one:
http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3802/11297039375_90a7626a80_o.jpg

just curious, where they come from...

regards
hasan


PostPosted: Tue Dec 10, 2013 5:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Little dust on the lens I guess.


PostPosted: Wed Dec 11, 2013 12:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Some lovely samples here already Smile

Here's baby Oscar with the Distagon 28/2.8 wide open...



PostPosted: Wed Dec 11, 2013 1:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

cute!

I had a chance to play with my a7 all afternoon. I'm not in love with the ergonomics. I'd prefer if the top plate was sloped forward a bit. as it is, I am flexing my index finger a bit unnaturally so I can use the C1, front dial and shutter button. hopefully I get used to it.


PostPosted: Wed Dec 11, 2013 4:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Graham wrote:
Here's baby Oscar with the Distagon 28/2.8 wide open...

wow! impressive quality and so beautiful Oscar !


PostPosted: Thu Dec 12, 2013 1:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

poilu wrote:
Graham wrote:
Here's baby Oscar with the Distagon 28/2.8 wide open...

wow! impressive quality and so beautiful Oscar !

+1.

Just wondering if it is worth opening a new sub-forum under Digital Rangefinders for Full Frame Mirrorless and move some of these posts there. They provide some good early samples and info about the camera.


PostPosted: Thu Dec 12, 2013 11:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thank you for the kind comments Smile

Here's the manual: https://docs.sony.com/release/ILCE-7_7R_guide_EN.pdf

P.s. Setting Display Quality to "High" gives a more OVF like experience in the EVF (less jagged edge effects / moire). It does use more battery power though, and some might like the jagged effect to confirm focus.


PostPosted: Fri Dec 13, 2013 10:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I found a good deal on Cameta:
- Sony VG-C1EM Vertical Battery Grip for Alpha A7 & A7R Camera
- Sony PCK-LM16 Semi-Hard Sheet LCD Screen Protector for Alpha A7 & A7R Camera
- Spare NP-FW50 Battery for Sony
- Battery Charger for Sony NP-FW50
- Precision Design 6-Piece Camera & Lens Cleaning Kit
$299

They also have similar A7(R) packs with 64BG SDXC card or a tripod for $299 Wink


PostPosted: Fri Dec 13, 2013 11:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nordentro wrote:
I found a good deal on Cameta:
- Sony VG-C1EM Vertical Battery Grip for Alpha A7 & A7R Camera
- Sony PCK-LM16 Semi-Hard Sheet LCD Screen Protector for Alpha A7 & A7R Camera
- Spare NP-FW50 Battery for Sony
- Battery Charger for Sony NP-FW50
- Precision Design 6-Piece Camera & Lens Cleaning Kit
$299

They also have similar A7(R) packs with 64BG SDXC card or a tripod for $299 Wink

These ones ?
http://www.cameta.com/sony-battery-grips.cfm

They seem to sell worldwide. How much do you add for taxes ?


PostPosted: Fri Dec 13, 2013 2:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, it those, Norway has 25% MoreValueTax (as they call it) Confused

So 75USD extra, but it is still much cheaper than Norwegian stores. I will only get the grip for that price here...


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PostPosted: Sat Dec 14, 2013 6:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Nordentro,
what about your Takumars ? How do they perform with the Sony?
I am thinking of buying this camera just to give mine a new life.
Thanks
Philippe


PostPosted: Sat Dec 14, 2013 8:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

memetph wrote:
Hi Nordentro,
what about your Takumars ? How do they perform with the Sony?
I am thinking of buying this camera just to give mine a new life.
Thanks
Philippe


Takumars are very nice. It will be a good match. I have only tested the 50mm f/1.4, but I can post pictures of others if you want Wink


PostPosted: Sat Dec 14, 2013 10:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quick test shot with my black Jupiter-8...seems fairly decent for a small package!


Testing a Russian Jupiter-8 on the Sony a7 by <<BackToTheFuture>>, on Flickr


PostPosted: Sun Dec 15, 2013 9:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Olivier wrote:
Nordentro wrote:
I found a good deal on Cameta:
- Sony VG-C1EM Vertical Battery Grip for Alpha A7 & A7R Camera
- Sony PCK-LM16 Semi-Hard Sheet LCD Screen Protector for Alpha A7 & A7R Camera
- Spare NP-FW50 Battery for Sony
- Battery Charger for Sony NP-FW50
- Precision Design 6-Piece Camera & Lens Cleaning Kit
$299

They also have similar A7(R) packs with 64BG SDXC card or a tripod for $299 Wink

These ones ?
http://www.cameta.com/sony-battery-grips.cfm

They seem to sell worldwide. How much do you add for taxes ?


Pfff... I would get some chinese NP-FW50 batteries (~7 each), an chinese charger (~10), original LCD screen protector (~20) and some other cleaning tools (20) instead of this expensive package.


PostPosted: Mon Dec 16, 2013 9:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Helios-103 53mm/1.8 (kiev/contax) on A7



T-43 40mm/4 (from Smena-8M) on A7



PostPosted: Mon Dec 16, 2013 9:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Pierre. Smile

Nice shots.


PostPosted: Tue Dec 17, 2013 8:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Zeiss FE Sonnar 35/2.8
An diffraction limited high contrast resolution monster on Sony A7!
F8, 1/160s, some PP


24MP 100% crop


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PostPosted: Tue Dec 17, 2013 9:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Intresting review

http://www.stevehuffphoto.com/2013/12/16/the-sony-a7r-vs-the-nikon-d800e-by-andrew-paquette/


PostPosted: Tue Dec 17, 2013 10:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

A7 with Canon FDn 85 1.2 wideopen

1


2
My little sleepyhead Distagon 35 1.4 wideopen



PostPosted: Tue Dec 17, 2013 10:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ForenSeil wrote:
Zeiss FE Sonnar 35/2.8
An diffraction limited high contrast resolution monster on Sony A7!
F8, 1/160s, some PP

24MP 100% crop


amazing

other photos too


PostPosted: Wed Dec 18, 2013 10:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nordentro wrote:
Intresting review

http://www.stevehuffphoto.com/2013/12/16/the-sony-a7r-vs-the-nikon-d800e-by-andrew-paquette/


Interesting!
The D800 is among the best DR. Not sure what value tester set it to
In my experience, one single shot can be as good as HDR with 2 or 3 frames.
DR value in D800 also produce non natural dark/light, so I used to have it at average or a bit above average.
The results from A7r are very good.

Size and weight matter, but the reason to keep d800 is AF and long tele.