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no-X



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PostPosted: Thu Jul 02, 2009 1:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ufff... not only the reds are now fine! Here is full list of my findings:

1. reds are now red, not greyish
2. transitions from reds to other color are now fine, no more banding artifacts
3. no more cyan skies
4. no more overblown reds and pinks, red surfaces has now texture
5. many pictures has higher microcontrast
6. no more green tints over the image
7. overexposed images has now more correct contrast - it's not significantly lower than on underexposed ones
8. however, not everythink is better - dynamic range seems to be sligthly lower in some very specific conditions

But it's possible to use SPP 2.5 and 3.5.2 simultaneously, so I'm really happy.

I thought I'll have to buy Sigma SD15 to achieve these results, but all the annoying IQ issues SD14 had, are now fixed Shocked It's like a free camera upgrade...

2 more examples:
SPP 2.5 vs. SPP 3.5.2



red - greeen transition:
SPP 2.5 vs. SPP 3.5.2


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list of Helios 44 lenses | List of CZJ T-marked M42 lenses | I'm not absolutely retarded, English simply isn't my mother tongue :s)

up-to 30mm: Vivitar (Tokina) Series 1 VMC 28/1.9, Vivitar (Komine) MC close-focus 28/2.8, Zeiss Distagon T* 25/2.8 ZS
35mm: Super Takumar 35/2 PRO, S-M-C Takumar 35/2, S-M-C Takumar 35/3.5, CZJ eMC Flektogon 35/2.4, SC Curtagon 35/2.8, Vivitar 35/1.9, MG Primagon V 35/4.5, CZJ Tessar T 40/4.5
50mm: S-M-C Takumar 50/1.4, S-M-C Macro Takumar 50/4, Tomioka Cosinon MC 55/1.4, Tomioka Yashinon 55/1.2, Tomioka Macro Yashinon 60/2.8, CZJ Biotar T 58/2 preset, CZJ Biotar T 58/2 17-blades, CZJ eMC Pancolar 50/1.8, aJ Pancolar 55/1.4, KMZ Helios 44-2 58/2 00xxx, KMZ Helios 44-2 58/2 0xxx, MMZ Helios MC 44-3 58/2, Helios 77M 50/1.8, KMZ Zenitar M2s MC 50/2, KMZ Industar 50/3.5, MC Volna-9 Macro 50/2.8, MC Pentacon 50/1.8, MG Trioplan 50/2.9, MG Primoplan V 58/1.9, Voigtländer Color Ultron 50/1.8, Macro Prakticar 55/2.8
85mm:, CZJ Biotar T 75/1.5 M42, CZJ eMC Pancolar 80/1.8, aJ Biometar 80/2.8 P6 zebra, CZJ Biometar 80/2.8 M42, MG Primoplan V 75/1.9 [exa], MG Night Primoplan 80/1.9 [VP Night], KMZ Helios 40-2 85/1.5 (custom hybrid of 40 and 40-2), S-M-C Takumar 85/1.8, KMZ Jupiter-9 Π 8,5/2 M39, LZOS Jupiter-9 85/2 SLR M39, LZOS Jupiter-9 85/2 M42, Kodak Meniscus 90mm, MG Telefogar V 90/3.5, MG Trioplan V 100/2.8
over 100mm: Ernemann Kinostigmat 11cm, Voigtlander SL Macro APO Lanthar 125/2.5, Spiratone 135/1.8 plura-coat, KOMZ MC Jupiter 37AM 135/3.5, KOMZ Jupiter-11 135/4, KMZ Tair 11A 135/2.8, Pentacon preset 135/2.8 (bokehmonster), CZJ Sonnar MC 135/3.5, CZJ Triotar T 135/4, LR-A Pololyt 135/4.5 "T2", ZOMZ TAIR-3 300/4.5
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 03, 2009 5:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

no-X wrote:
Great news for all Sigma users! Sigma released new version of RAW converter SPP 3.5.2, which greatly improves image quality for highlighted areas:

Quote:
SIGMA Photo Pro 3.5.2 for Windows

* Improved processing performance in highlight areas of RAW images
* Exposure Warning is displayed to each RGB channels of the histogram
* Addition of “ProPhoto RGB” to the Color Space in “Save Image As”.

http://www.sigma-photo.co.jp/english/news/info_090702.htm


Problems with red channel are now fixed, red is no more overblown or greyish, but RED. Check these image I took last year with by Komine made Vivitar 28/2.8 at f/2.8:

SPP 2.5 auto:


new SPP 3.5.2 auto:


Very Happy


The reds do indeed look much better, but the red in the OOF area looks rather strange with the harsh outline it gives.
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guardian




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PostPosted: Tue Jul 21, 2009 9:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It is good to see these improvements, no-X. I think they are getting ready for the SD15! Very Happy

The SD15 uses the same sensor as our SD14s.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 21, 2009 10:04 pm    Post subject: Jianisi for Sigma SD14 Reply with quote

The MF lens I use on my SD14 has no image stabilization. No surprise there. So it would be nice to have a remote controller.

I want a Jianisi because of the inexpensive price.

Does anyone know if there is a Jianisi controller that will work with the Sigma SD14?

Thanks.

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 27, 2009 8:11 pm    Post subject: sigma sd14 Reply with quote

hello i'm a new member and a new sigma sd14 user,so i want ask to you the better lens that you use with sigma without modification.with a priority to the cheapest one...thanks
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 27, 2009 8:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Look at my list on previous page Smile
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list of Helios 44 lenses | List of CZJ T-marked M42 lenses | I'm not absolutely retarded, English simply isn't my mother tongue :s)

up-to 30mm: Vivitar (Tokina) Series 1 VMC 28/1.9, Vivitar (Komine) MC close-focus 28/2.8, Zeiss Distagon T* 25/2.8 ZS
35mm: Super Takumar 35/2 PRO, S-M-C Takumar 35/2, S-M-C Takumar 35/3.5, CZJ eMC Flektogon 35/2.4, SC Curtagon 35/2.8, Vivitar 35/1.9, MG Primagon V 35/4.5, CZJ Tessar T 40/4.5
50mm: S-M-C Takumar 50/1.4, S-M-C Macro Takumar 50/4, Tomioka Cosinon MC 55/1.4, Tomioka Yashinon 55/1.2, Tomioka Macro Yashinon 60/2.8, CZJ Biotar T 58/2 preset, CZJ Biotar T 58/2 17-blades, CZJ eMC Pancolar 50/1.8, aJ Pancolar 55/1.4, KMZ Helios 44-2 58/2 00xxx, KMZ Helios 44-2 58/2 0xxx, MMZ Helios MC 44-3 58/2, Helios 77M 50/1.8, KMZ Zenitar M2s MC 50/2, KMZ Industar 50/3.5, MC Volna-9 Macro 50/2.8, MC Pentacon 50/1.8, MG Trioplan 50/2.9, MG Primoplan V 58/1.9, Voigtländer Color Ultron 50/1.8, Macro Prakticar 55/2.8
85mm:, CZJ Biotar T 75/1.5 M42, CZJ eMC Pancolar 80/1.8, aJ Biometar 80/2.8 P6 zebra, CZJ Biometar 80/2.8 M42, MG Primoplan V 75/1.9 [exa], MG Night Primoplan 80/1.9 [VP Night], KMZ Helios 40-2 85/1.5 (custom hybrid of 40 and 40-2), S-M-C Takumar 85/1.8, KMZ Jupiter-9 Π 8,5/2 M39, LZOS Jupiter-9 85/2 SLR M39, LZOS Jupiter-9 85/2 M42, Kodak Meniscus 90mm, MG Telefogar V 90/3.5, MG Trioplan V 100/2.8
over 100mm: Ernemann Kinostigmat 11cm, Voigtlander SL Macro APO Lanthar 125/2.5, Spiratone 135/1.8 plura-coat, KOMZ MC Jupiter 37AM 135/3.5, KOMZ Jupiter-11 135/4, KMZ Tair 11A 135/2.8, Pentacon preset 135/2.8 (bokehmonster), CZJ Sonnar MC 135/3.5, CZJ Triotar T 135/4, LR-A Pololyt 135/4.5 "T2", ZOMZ TAIR-3 300/4.5
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 27, 2009 8:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

thanks.it is very interesting.But you can suggest the better lens to strart?naturally I'm searching a very good quality one.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 11, 2009 8:54 am    Post subject: New to MFlenses Reply with quote

Hi there, just wanted to say hello, registered a few minutes ago.

Klaus Very Happy


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PostPosted: Tue Aug 11, 2009 9:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 18, 2009 12:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just wanted to introduce myself to fellow Sigma devotees..

I have owned a Sigma SD10 for a few years that i have a love/hate relationship with. I was going to give up on Sigma and go Canon, but then i heard about manual focus lenses being usable on SD bodies Very Happy Very Happy

It has awakened a new interest in photography, i recently bought a SD14 with Leica R mount from Luis at Sigma Cum Laude, and i love it. Whilst the SD14's have been selling so cheap i also bought another standard one that i can use my M42 lenses and std Sigma lenses...

This renewed hobby is becoming very expensive though, my manual lenses now number 11. These include, Leica, Pentacon, Takumars, Jupiter and Novoflex.... i must stop buying lenses Embarassed

I hope to gain some insights on these wonderful cameras, from you guys...
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 18, 2009 12:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

rpo83 wrote:
Just wanted to introduce myself to fellow Sigma devotees..

I have owned a Sigma SD10 for a few years that i have a love/hate relationship with. I was going to give up on Sigma and go Canon, but then i heard about manual focus lenses being usable on SD bodies Very Happy Very Happy

It has awakened a new interest in photography, i recently bought a SD14 with Leica R mount from Luis at Sigma Cum Laude, and i love it. Whilst the SD14's have been selling so cheap i also bought another standard one that i can use my M42 lenses and std Sigma lenses...

This renewed hobby is becoming very expensive though, my manual lenses now number 11. These include, Leica, Pentacon, Takumars, Jupiter and Novoflex.... i must stop buying lenses Embarassed

I hope to gain some insights on these wonderful cameras, from you guys...


Thank you for your info! I did also very interest to a modified SD14 to Contax becuase I am Zeiss fan, but I found medium format with slide films and my interest went to down for a while about any DSLR Embarassed
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35mm SLRKonica FM,Konica FP,Konica FT-1,Konica FC-1,Konica TC4,Nikon FA,Exakta VarexIIa,Fujica ST801
Carl Zeiss Jena:Flektogon 2.8/20mm,4/25mm,2.4/35,2.8/65mm,4.5/4cm Tessar, 8/500mm Fernobjektiv
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 07, 2009 9:40 pm    Post subject: Adaptall 2 Reply with quote

Hope someone out there might have a thought on this:

I have the Sigma SD14 running with (among others) Tamron Adaptall 2 MF glass. At present time I am using two adapters:

Adaptall 2 to M42

M42 to PK

This works.

But has anyone ever seen an Adaptall 2 to SA adapter? Does this item exist?

I'm pretty sure I can buy an Adaptall 2 to PK . . . . but before I do, I want to be sure the better alternative does not exist.

Thanks.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 08, 2009 10:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't think they did one - at least I've never seen any reference to it.
M42 and modified PK is the easiest. You could modify a canon ef adapter which are available on ebay.
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 12, 2009 11:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

[quote="Xpres"]I don't think they did one - at least I've never seen any reference to it.
M42 and modified PK is the easiest. You could modify a canon ef adapter which are available on ebay.[/quote]

Thank you, Xpres. Your post confirms my own findings. After considerable searching I could come up with nothing.

Oh, well. So it goes.

I ended up buying an SA to M42, which means I must remain with the double adapters. This was not my first choice, but . . . . . . . . . .

I hope the new SA to M42 (do not have it yet), brass, bought out of Hong Kong, is slightly larger than the PK to M42 I now have in use. The PK to M42 does work, but it is just a bit small and moves around ever so slightly in my SD14. We shall see. Another week or two and I will know.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 22, 2009 7:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

guardian wrote:
New SD-14 body and yet to take my first photograph. Awaiting receipt of CF memory.

Yesterday's job was to mount my Tamrom SP 90mm F/2.5 model 52B lens onto the camera. This lens uses the Adaptall-2 mount.

Also on hand had:

Tamron Adaptall-2 Custom Mount to adapt M42

and

M42 to PK adapter, brass, bought from a dealer in Texas on eBay

The PK adapter seemed to fit into the SD-14 without trouble or damage to the camera body. Have had it in and out a number of times. The red dot on this PK adapter, though, should/can/must not be lined up with the camera body's red dot when installing. You have to free lance a bit and figure it out before you go ahead.

Problem with the Tamron lens was limited to the iris control pin. It is necessary to depress the pin to achieve the iris setting one dials up. The SD-14 has no provision for this whatsoever. Also, the pin intrudes into the camera body enough to be a nuisance.

To make this work I fabbed up a tiny collar, of brass, which asserts the mechaniam activated by the pin. This is a simpleminded fix, but creating such a tiny part with my big fingers was tough and required several tries.

Finally, with the pin annoyance solved, I screwed everything together and the outcome is good. This morning I was able to test infinity focus and there is no problem. My image in the viewfinder is very clear.

I also have a Tamron-SP 2X Tele Converter model 01F which works with my Tamron lens. I have not yet mounted the converter or tried it, but it should work.

Now if only the CF memory cards would arrive I could take some photos. It will be a few more days, though. Sad

One final thing:

The three Tamron items (lens, converter, and mount) are all in virtually new condition, found that way several years ago at the local thrift shop. In a package deal I paid US$10 for all three . . . a few cents less actually. Not a bad deal. Smile


Forget the Adaptall-PK adapter and get yourself an Adaptall-M42 adapter and a proper M42-SA adapter instead. That way you will have correct infinity focus and the AA pin can be automatically pressed in so you can stop the lenses down normally.

I use the latter combo on my Tamron 90mm f2.5 macro and Tamron adaptall 300mm f2.8.
BTW, I find the contrast on the latter 90 macro is quite low so I switched to a MUCH better macro lens choice for my SD14...The Nikon Micro Nikkor 200mm f4 IF ED...Which I use via the Roxsen Nikon lens to M42 camera adapter plus an M42-SA adapter.
There are a lot of dodgy M42-SA adapters in circulation on ebay.
Avoid any M42-SA adapter that do not have an AA pin compresser flange built in...Here is an example of one that should be avoided:

http://images.virtualvillage.com/005200-029/002.jpg

Also strictly avoid anything that looks like this:

http://images.virtualvillage.com/005200-034/001.jpg

Because that is NOT an M42-SA adapter, its actually an M42-PK adapter!

Here is a link to the Japanese made, high quality, JTAT version, which is a bit pricey but then it is the best quality proper M42-SA adapter available:

http://www.jtat.com/sd/sd_main/SD_M42.html
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