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Samyang 85mm f1.4 Aspherical IF (Some samples)
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 18, 2009 1:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
found another good comparison of this lens and nikkor 1.4

http://www.jsvfoto.com/Home/faqs/nikkor85mmf14aisvspolar85mmf14/nikkorpolarreview


PostPosted: Fri Sep 18, 2009 2:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Two quick questions on this lens:

1) Anyone using this on a 1.5 or 1.6 FOV crop cam? I realize that it will have the FOV of a 135mm on FF.

2) Using the Canon EOS system, what is the easiest way of getting the AF Confirm lights working with this lens? I have seen references to both using a Nikon-eos adapter with a Nikon mount lens, or shaving the lens mount and adding an AF Confirm chip. Which is more reliable, and which is the simplest way?

I definitely want one of these once I pick up a 40d (would love a 5D but not really in the cards right now)


PostPosted: Fri Sep 18, 2009 2:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
myshutters wrote:
found another good comparison of this lens and nikkor 1.4

http://www.jsvfoto.com/Home/faqs/nikkor85mmf14aisvspolar85mmf14/nikkorpolarreview


I read that. He referred many times to the Nikkor "blowing highlights." Isn't this all about exposure? I've never heard of a lens that "blows highlights."


PostPosted: Fri Sep 18, 2009 5:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Ok, here are some samples directly with the Samyang

All images taken on a 5D FF, f/1.4

#1

#2

#3


I like this lens much for portraits.

Its in EOS Mount and i did glue a confirmation chip directly on the lens mount.

There is already a Samyang Thread... so i posted there how you can manage that.

http://forum.mflenses.com/samyang-85mm-focusing-question-t19774.html

Cheers
Henry


PostPosted: Fri Sep 18, 2009 7:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
#1 and #3 I can't imagine better ones , both are superb especially #1 one.


PostPosted: Fri Sep 18, 2009 12:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Attila wrote:
#1 and #3 I can't imagine better ones , both are superb especially #1 one.


Thanks,

# 2 was taken to see the color fringes round the white hair in the sun.


Cheers
Henry

Last edited by hinnerker on Fri Sep 18, 2009 12:27 pm; edited 1 time in total


PostPosted: Fri Sep 18, 2009 12:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Excellent portrait Henry (and a wonderful model, too)!!


PostPosted: Fri Sep 18, 2009 12:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
hinnerker - excellent shot!

Second impression - focusing is very easy and smooth with this lens, this samyang/falcon is incredible sharp at f/1.4 and have a lot of contrast. Bokeh is wonderful. It has some CA but less than N85 1.8 AF.
N85 1.8 AF is less sharp and have less contrast. I think falcon is sharper at f/1.4 than nikkor at f/2.2
At infinity this lens is superb, nikkor was only acceptable.
I love this lens a lot!


PostPosted: Fri Sep 18, 2009 1:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
For me it is a lens for portraits but I had to test on something:



PostPosted: Fri Sep 18, 2009 2:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
hinnerker wrote:
Ok, here are some samples directly with the Samyang

All images taken on a 5D FF, f/1.4

I like this lens much for portraits.

Its in EOS Mount and i did glue a confirmation chip directly on the lens mount.

There is already a Samyang Thread... so i posted there how you can manage that.

http://forum.mflenses.com/samyang-85mm-focusing-question-t19774.html

Cheers
Henry


Hi Henry.

I saw very nice pics, really.

I havent doubts that you do as excelent portraits as them with any lens. Your model and your eye mind can do excelent pics with any portrait lens.

I imagine them taken with a summilux R or planar 1,4 (or other excelent 80-85 mm) at F/ 4 to 8 and see in my mind a better pics. And I don't know if samyang 85 can do the same.

I think, it's my taste of course, that the portraits need F/4 to 8 (specially in heads ones) to obtain the better dof (eyes and nose in tack sharp focus or near to it, eyes and mouth). But it's only subjective.

Although, your pics are wanderfull, I like them a lot. And your model is a beauty too.

Regards, Rino.


PostPosted: Fri Sep 18, 2009 3:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
[quote="estudleon"]
hinnerker wrote:
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I imagine them taken with a summilux R or planar 1,4 (or other excelent 80-85 mm) at F/ 4 to 8 and see in my mind a better pics. And I don't know if samyang 85 can do the same.



Regards, Rino.


http://forum.getdpi.com/forum/showthread.php?t=8293


PostPosted: Fri Sep 18, 2009 3:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
[quote="karabud"]
estudleon wrote:
hinnerker wrote:
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I imagine them taken with a summilux R or planar 1,4 (or other excelent 80-85 mm) at F/ 4 to 8 and see in my mind a better pics. And I don't know if samyang 85 can do the same.



Regards, Rino.


http://forum.getdpi.com/forum/showthread.php?t=8293


Thanks.

But I see the following:

1- The leica warm cast that show the little doll pics, not is showed in the baby comparation. I don't see a warm leica 80 mm. lens like I see the first comparation pics.

2- In the F/2,8 to 8, the leica is a clear win to me. And I postred that I prefer the F/4 to 8 range to portraits.

3- At F/1,4 the rikenon (samsung) is a very good lens, but from F/2,8 to F/11 it loses with leica.

4- http://www.lenstip.com/166.1-Lens_review-Samyang_85_mm_f_1.4_Aspherical_IF__Introduction.html

I'm not the only one. . . .

But all is subjective in lenses taste


PostPosted: Fri Sep 18, 2009 4:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
I like using f/1.4-2.8 so this is a bargain for me. This lens is most sharp at full open all 85mm, and cos 250$!. I love it a lot. It less sharper than other primes at f/2.8-f/11 but for me is enough.
This is not samsung it`s samyang Wink
A first portrait with this glass, i know that eye isn`t on focus precisely.




And fullsize 12mpix from fuji s5 pro(it`s 6mpix camera) N0 sharpening:

http://img16.imageshack.us/img16/3325/dscf6304q.jpg


PostPosted: Fri Sep 18, 2009 5:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
estudleon wrote:
hinnerker wrote:
Ok, here are some samples directly with the Samyang

All images taken on a 5D FF, f/1.4

I like this lens much for portraits.

Its in EOS Mount and i did glue a confirmation chip directly on the lens mount.

There is already a Samyang Thread... so i posted there how you can manage that.

http://forum.mflenses.com/samyang-85mm-focusing-question-t19774.html

Cheers
Henry


Hi Henry.

I saw very nice pics, really.

I havent doubts that you do as excelent portraits as them with any lens. Your model and your eye mind can do excelent pics with any portrait lens.

I imagine them taken with a summilux R or planar 1,4 (or other excelent 80-85 mm) at F/ 4 to 8 and see in my mind a better pics. And I don't know if samyang 85 can do the same.

I think, it's my taste of course, that the portraits need F/4 to 8 (specially in heads ones) to obtain the better dof (eyes and nose in tack sharp focus or near to it, eyes and mouth). But it's only subjective.

Although, your pics are wanderfull, I like them a lot. And your model is a beauty too.

Regards, Rino.


Hi Rino,

thanks for the compliments..

The images i did show are only test shots showing my wife... and i want to find out the behvior of the Samyang wide open. Normally i shoot portraits stopped down to f/4-5.6..

The Images are taken the same day, the lens arrived on a walk with my wife i want to see how the lens performed wide open, in sunlight, in shadow and so on.

In my eyes, the Samyang is a really gem and a bargain too.
Its sharp and one of the Lenses, when focusing, it makes "pling" in the viewer. The point of sharpness is perfect visible on a EOS 5D FF. I havent seen a lens, which shows you the exakt point of focus in the Viewer as the Samyang. For portraits, this little big gem is perfect in my eyes.

Two remarks:

First:
The Samyang is not optimized for infinity. On infinity i know a lot of better lenses. Even when you stopped down the lens, the images near infinity are not really sharp.

As far as i can see on my EOS 400D with HAODA focusing screen, the infinity is a little behind, where it should be. So its difficult to take shots at infinity.

Second:

The Samyang has a little color fringes in sunlight situation. Even if you stopped down a little, they stay in 100% View.

But in normal light, the lens is beautiful. For Portraits i normally use my Leica Elmarit 2.8/90mm but the Samyang is going to become my favourit for all portraits.

Greetz
Henry


PostPosted: Fri Sep 18, 2009 7:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
karabud wrote:
I like using f/1.4-2.8 so this is a bargain for me. This lens is most sharp at full open all 85mm, and cos 250$!. I love it a lot. It less sharper than other primes at f/2.8-f/11 but for me is enough.
This is not samsung it`s samyang Wink
A first portrait with this glass, i know that eye isn`t on focus precisely.




And fullsize 12mpix from fuji s5 pro(it`s 6mpix camera) N0 sharpening:

http://img16.imageshack.us/img16/3325/dscf6304q.jpg



Fantastic lens indeed. Nice portrait too!


PostPosted: Fri Sep 18, 2009 7:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Attila wrote:



Fantastic lens indeed. Nice portrait too!


Thanx!

Another one:


PostPosted: Mon Sep 21, 2009 11:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
I'm uncertain if I'll get this one as I have a Nikon 85/2 AI-s already, however their newly announced 14/2.8 will certainly find its way to me [regardless of possible non-linear or "moustache" distortion] Smile


Guess this these lenses are examples of where CAD really shines, in the olden days a small company would have had trouble pulling something like this off.

And most refreshing to see a new line of fast primes as opposed to slow consumer zooms Smile


PostPosted: Fri Oct 09, 2009 11:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
As per another thread, I plan to test mine head-to-head with my FD 85/1.2 SSC Aspherical. I have not had time to do it yet, since I only received the Rokinon yesterday.

In lieu of comparison shots, here are a couple of wide-open samples from my Rokinon version of this lens. Just a couple of stupid shots, but to show the sharpness and bokeh at least...



100%:




100%:


No CA correction has been done (I don't even know how to do it). The CA is there, but not too bad at all.

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 09, 2009 11:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Scoo wrote:


And most refreshing to see a new line of fast primes as opposed to slow consumer zooms Smile


Not too mention that they are now yet another purely MF lens manufacturer. This is good news in so many ways Smile


PostPosted: Sat Oct 10, 2009 12:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
hinnerker wrote:
Ok, here are some samples directly with the Samyang

All images taken on a 5D FF, f/1.4

#1

#2

#3


I like this lens much for portraits.

Its in EOS Mount and i did glue a confirmation chip directly on the lens mount.

There is already a Samyang Thread... so i posted there how you can manage that.

http://forum.mflenses.com/samyang-85mm-focusing-question-t19774.html

Cheers
Henry


What an absolutely beautiful woman! Her age makes her even more beautiful, and you have captured her spirit as well. Wonderful!


PostPosted: Sat Oct 10, 2009 1:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
The wide open bokeh is simply delightful.
I can't speak about the resolvance because I would have to look at some 100% RAWS from hi resolution cameras such as the D3X or 5DMkII in order to be able to compare with the lenses that I have on the same pixel base.
However it's not the little more or little less resolvance that does it for me. I am photographer not scientist, so I prefer to evaluate the overall artistic performance first.

The "wide open in controlled light" performances have won me. Seen lots of those samples now, and all are very good.
But that is the home ground for this lens. Now let's see how it does play in "away games" like stopped down and torture-test conditions shoots (backlit, strong contrast, casual lighting, live action, night shots etc.)


PostPosted: Tue Oct 20, 2009 4:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
just got this lens last week. Only 4 days shipment from the US to here in south east asia by UPS.

I'm starting to like this lens, on 5d i have to use focus-bracketing, but on 40D liveview usually nails the focus.

Some initial test pics of this lens. all pics are all @1.4






pics were resize by picasa to web size. Original images are way better.


PostPosted: Tue Oct 20, 2009 6:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Finally i bought this lens and waiting for shipment, being new to ebay shopping i forgot to mention that it should be a Nikon mount, alittle later i've sent them an email regarding the issue, i hope it won't be a better? Sad


Next target is Planar 85 1.4 Wink

Asof now i have 3 portrait lenses:

Nikkor 85mm 1.8 AF
Samyang 85 1.4 MF
Jupiter 9 MF


PostPosted: Fri Oct 23, 2009 10:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
f/2.8


PostPosted: Fri Oct 23, 2009 11:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Lovely portrait
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