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Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2008 7:39 am
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This film is the successor of Rollei Scanfilm.
Basically it is a colour film without the orange mask.
It has also lower contrast than normal, to increase resolvance.
All these characteristics have been applied to make of this film the ideal film for digital scanning.

I have found this online German shop:

http://macodirect.de/rollei-digibasesup%AEsup-13536-p-665.html

but it does not offer the English language choice.

On Ebay, this film seems impossible to find.

Is anybody able to find this film for sale in an English-based online shop? Preferably in Europe.

I had an Italian link for it but can not find it anymore and google search does not find it.

thanks!!!!


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Orio - probably the best film specialists in UK:

http://www.silverprint.co.uk/

http://www.retrophotographic.com/rollei.htm

I found Rollei scanfilm (400 IS0) but not the 200.

Maco produce the film under the Rollei name.


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Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2008 9:28 am
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Edited to add - ignore stuff below, I was looking for the wrong film Embarassed

Orio wrote:

Is anybody able to find this film for sale in an English-based online shop? Preferably in Europe.


Robert White in the UK seems to stock it on their old website, but not on their new one. Might still be worth dropping them an email to enquire.

Outside of europe, Freestyle photographic supplies has it.


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Nice Smile but expensive Sad

Better this B&W http://macodirect.de/filme-agfa-c-1_6_32.html


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Well, armed with online translator, I succeeded in order 5 rolls of the 200 ISO film from the German shop. They should arrive in time for the second Carnival Sunday.
Of course, I will let you know!


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Orio wrote:
Well, armed with online translator, I succeeded in order 5 rolls of the 200 ISO film from the German shop. They should arrive in time for the second Carnival Sunday.
Of course, I will let you know!


Great. Maco seem to really be supporting film users with different emulsions. I suspect they'll soon be one of the few places to produce IR film.


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What thrills me about this emulsion is the fact that is optimized for scanning.
This means that we can get a step farther with our full frame film cameras in producing images that can fully disclose the potential of the best lenses that we have.


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That sounds really interesting, Orio.
If you need some more translation, just ask...


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Orio wrote:
What thrills me about this emulsion is the fact that is optimized for scanning.
This means that we can get a step farther with our full frame film cameras in producing images that can fully disclose the potential of the best lenses that we have.


The next step is oil immersion scanning, of course.


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Chris


????? oil ????


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The Epson V700 and V750 scanners have an attachment for holding film flat using liquid.


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I just received the film: very fast shipping!
Sunday I will try it.
Together with the 5 films, they included 5 candies in Rollei-Film wrapping Smile


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Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2008 8:35 am
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Orio wrote:
This film is the successor of Rollei Scanfilm.
Basically it is a colour film without the orange mask.


It is a monochromatic film for the C41 process, i.e. a B&W film useful if you cannot get real B&W film processed -- any minilab can handle C41.

Veijo


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vilva wrote:
Orio wrote:
This film is the successor of Rollei Scanfilm.
Basically it is a colour film without the orange mask.

It is a monochromatic film for the C41 process, i.e. a B&W film useful if you cannot get real B&W film processed -- any minilab can handle C41.
Veijo


Are you really sure it's B&W ?
ACH...


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Here:
http://www.caddyphoto.com/product_info.php?products_id=436
it says:

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Rollei DIGIBASE CN 200 PRO est un film couleur sans masque de nouvelle génération.
Rollei DIGIBASE CN 200 PRO permet la numérisation par scanner sans perte des couleurs.


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Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2008 8:53 am
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Orio wrote:
vilva wrote:
Orio wrote:
This film is the successor of Rollei Scanfilm.
Basically it is a colour film without the orange mask.

It is a monochromatic film for the C41 process, i.e. a B&W film useful if you cannot get real B&W film processed -- any minilab can handle C41.
Veijo


Are you really sure it's B&W ?
ACH...


The PDF states: "Neuer Schwarzweiss-Film zu verarbeiten im Colorprozess C41" = "A new black and white film for processing in the color process C41"

Kodak has a similar C41 B&W film, but I don't know whether it has the orange mask or not.

Veijo


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Rollei wrote:
universeller, monochromer Schwarzweiss-Film mit 200 ISO
zu verarbeiten im Colorprozess C41.


Veijo is absolute right


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Orio wrote:
Here:
http://www.caddyphoto.com/product_info.php?products_id=436
it says:

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Rollei DIGIBASE CN 200 PRO est un film couleur sans masque de nouvelle génération.
Rollei DIGIBASE CN 200 PRO permet la numérisation par scanner sans perte des couleurs.


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It is a color film, i.e. the chemistry is that of a color film but without all the complications of color separation, just the result is monochromatic. So we have a monochromatic color film, not quite the same a normal B&W, but perhaps better than using a standard color negative film and printing in B&W.

Veijo


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Ilford do somehing similar called XP2 - I used the original XP1 many years back and if you put it through a mini-lab it came back with an interesting blue or sepia cast.


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Yes like Vejio said its like Ilford XP2 and Kodak BW400 (c-41) , but in the film's presentation (not in the PDF file) is written: "Eigenschaften und Anwendung:

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unmaskierter Farbfilm;
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hochauflösender, hochempfindlicher panchromatischer Negativfilm, für Farb- und s/w – Prints geeignet;"

... High-resolution, high pan-chromatic negative film, suitable for color and b / w - prints.

Still , what is mentioned in the PDF file is true, I guess.

About the C41 process BW films, its sad that they are more expensive the color or classic black and white films.


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montecarlo wrote:
Yes like Vejio said its like Ilford XP2 and Kodak BW400 (c-41) , but in the film's presentation (not in the PDF file) is written: "Eigenschaften und Anwendung:

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unmaskierter Farbfilm;
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hochauflösender, hochempfindlicher panchromatischer Negativfilm, für Farb- und s/w – Prints geeignet;"

... High-resolution, high pan-chromatic negative film, suitable for color and b / w - prints.


The "color prints" part just means that the film can be put through the normal mini-lab color workflow using the standard color print papers. Stating "pan-chromatic" is meaningless if you are speaking of color reproduction, it is meaningful in the B&W context only, contrasted with e.g. orthochromatic film material.

Veijo


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Richard_D wrote:
Ilford do somehing similar called XP2 - I used the original XP1 many years back and if you put it through a mini-lab it came back with an interesting blue or sepia cast.


Hah! I remember that well. Still got a roll of XP1 400 here somewhere. The non-minilab results were good though.


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Hey, remember this film?
I have just got the first roll from the lab.
Well, I am sorry to say - you were all wrong!
This is indeed a COLOUR film, that is developed in C41 process, and being without the orange mask, delivers a colour negative that looks "strange".

I will post some scans|


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Here's a couple of scans.
Photos taken with the G2 and Zeiss Biogon 21

The cathedral of Fidenza (by Benedetto Antelami):


The tower of my father's house - it will become my studio:


Note that these scans were not sharpened after resize (I like them better this way)

A few considerations:

1) the film has LOT of colour grain - looks more like a 800 ISO than a 200 ISO

2) the negative has many blemishes (but I don't know if these are caused by poor manufacturing or by bad machinery in the photolab)

3) in spite of the grain, the film delivers a lot of detail

4) I love the colours - kind of subdued as in a 50s book if you like - surely not something for flashy photography but I like the kind of nostalgic look

5) The contrast is PERFECT for scanning! I didn't have to touch a single slider or value. THe scans came out perfect without the need of ANY adjustment

6) nothing to do with the film, but - THE BIOGON 21 ROCKS!! Very Happy


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ChrisLilley wrote:
Orio wrote:
What thrills me about this emulsion is the fact that is optimized for scanning.
This means that we can get a step farther with our full frame film cameras in producing images that can fully disclose the potential of the best lenses that we have.


The next step is oil immersion scanning, of course.


Already there Chris,

Wet mounting. Not uncommon at all, I've done it on my Epson 4870 and it does yield a very nice scan.

Jules
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