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patrickh
Joined: 23 Aug 2007 Posts: 8551 Location: Oregon
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Posted: Sat Dec 08, 2007 12:32 am Post subject: Retina Reflex lenses...can you identify and how to use? |
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patrickh wrote:
A friend of mine inherited this lens and I have no idea what it is. Can anyone tell me?
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Attila
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 57849 Location: Hungary
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Posted: Sat Dec 08, 2007 12:35 am Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
No idea, you can use for macro shoots if you fixed on camera with glued tape. _________________ -------------------------------
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bob955i
Joined: 15 Apr 2007 Posts: 2495
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Posted: Sat Dec 08, 2007 12:37 am Post subject: |
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bob955i wrote:
I think it's for a Kodak Retina camera:
http://www.photoethnography.com/ClassicCameras/KodakRetinaReflex.html |
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Orio
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 29545 Location: West Emilia
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Posted: Sat Dec 08, 2007 12:43 am Post subject: |
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Orio wrote:
Retina lens, you can focus to infinite with this one on a Canon EOS.
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Farside
Joined: 01 Sep 2007 Posts: 6549 Location: Ireland
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Posted: Sat Dec 08, 2007 12:50 am Post subject: |
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Farside wrote:
Orio wrote: |
Retina lens, you can focus to infinite with this one on a Canon EOS. |
Only problem is the adapter needed - it's about 120euros from Roxsen. I intend getting one eventually so I can use my Retina and Voigtlander lenses on my Canon. _________________ Dave - Moderator
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Orio
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 29545 Location: West Emilia
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Posted: Sat Dec 08, 2007 1:09 am Post subject: |
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Orio wrote:
Farside wrote: |
Orio wrote: |
Retina lens, you can focus to infinite with this one on a Canon EOS. |
Only problem is the adapter needed - it's about 120euros from Roxsen. I intend getting one eventually so I can use my Retina and Voigtlander lenses on my Canon. |
If for Patrick the Retina mount is not important, he could glue an EOS adapter on the mount (trying different ones until he find one with compatible register distance). Of course it would be a pity to deface the lens. But I know the lens and I think that it's not worth a 120 Euros adapter.
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rick_oleson
Joined: 26 Feb 2007 Posts: 386 Location: Lexington Kentucky USA
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Posted: Sat Dec 08, 2007 2:01 am Post subject: |
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rick_oleson wrote:
Retina Reflex lenses were designed to work with a behind-the-lens leaf shutter, which is well forward of the film plane and has a very small opening. This resulted in some compromises in lens design, such as a 135mm that won't focus closer than 14 feet. The normal lenses aren't much affected by these issues, but the limitations of the range as a whole would seem to me to make the investment in an adapter less rewarding than in more conventional systems. On top of that, the adapter is very complex as it has to include the aperture control system, which was part of the camera body rather than the lens.
Besides the Retina Reflex, the lenses can be used on the Retina IIIS rangefinder, the Instamatic Reflex (126 film) and, with very slight modification, the Voigtlander Bessamatic.... none of which really makes the whole thing much more attractive. _________________ I don't know what I want to be when I grow up |
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Ballu
Joined: 28 Feb 2007 Posts: 912 Location: Columbus, OH. USofA
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Posted: Sat Dec 08, 2007 2:34 am Post subject: |
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Ballu wrote:
Mounting this lens to EOS cameras will be tricky. The register distance for Retina camera is 44.7mm and for Canon EOS is 44mm. You really need to take the Retina lens mount out, fix the EOS mount to lens (like M42-EOS adapter).
Never thought of this.. worth trying... _________________ -Ballu
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rick_oleson
Joined: 26 Feb 2007 Posts: 386 Location: Lexington Kentucky USA
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Posted: Sat Dec 08, 2007 4:03 am Post subject: |
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rick_oleson wrote:
Just remember, you have no aperture ring and the lens defaults to f/22 when it's not mounted on the Retina Reflex. Great depth of field for macro, but focusing might be a little dim..... _________________ I don't know what I want to be when I grow up |
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Super Tak
Joined: 31 Jul 2007 Posts: 103
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Posted: Sat Dec 08, 2007 4:05 am Post subject: |
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Super Tak wrote:
Is there absolutely no way to work the aperture? _________________ Panasonic G1 | Lumix G 20mm f/1.7 ASPH | Jupiter-8 50mm f/2 | Nikkor 200mm f/4 AI
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patrickh
Joined: 23 Aug 2007 Posts: 8551 Location: Oregon
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Posted: Sat Dec 08, 2007 5:04 am Post subject: |
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patrickh wrote:
I think I will advise him to give it away
Thanks for the learned input guys
patrickh _________________ DSLR: Nikon D300 Nikon D200 Nex 5N
MF Zooms: Kiron 28-85/3.5, 28-105/3.2, 75-150/3.5, Nikkor 50-135/3.5 AIS // MF Primes: Nikkor 20/4 AI, 24/2 AI, 28/2 AI, 28/2.8 AIS, 28/3.5 AI, 35/1.4 AIS, 35/2 AIS, 35/2.8 PC, 45/2.8 P, 50/1.4 AIS, 50/1.8 AIS, 50/2 AI, 55/2.8 AIS micro, 55/3.5 AI micro, 85/2 AI, 100/2,8 E, 105/1,8 AIS, 105/2,5 AIS, 135/2 AIS, 135/2.8 AIS, 200/4 AI, 200/4 AIS micro, 300/4.5 AI, 300/4.5 AI ED, Arsat 50/1.4, Kiron 28/2, Vivitar 28/2.5, Panagor 135/2.8, Tamron 28/2.5, Tamron 90/2.5 macro, Vivitar 90/2.5 macro (Tokina) Voigtlander 90/3.5 Vivitar 105/2.5 macro (Kiron) Kaleinar 100/2.8 AI Tamron 135/2.5, Vivitar 135/2.8CF, 200/3.5, Tokina 400/5,6
M42: Vivitar 28/2.5, Tamron 28/2.5, Formula5 28/2.8, Mamiya 28/2.8, Pentacon 29/2.8, Flektogon 35/2.4, Flektogon 35/2.8, Takumar 35/3.5, Curtagon 35/4, Takumar 50/1.4, Volna-6 50/2.8 macro, Mamiya 50/1.4, CZJ Pancolar 50/1,8, Oreston 50/1.8, Takumar 50/2, Industar 50/3.5, Sears 55/1.4, Helios 58/2, Jupiter 85/2, Helios 85/1.5, Takumar 105/2.8, Steinheil macro 105/4.5, Tamron 135/2.5, Jupiter 135/4, CZ 135/4, Steinheil Culminar 135/4,5, Jupiter 135/3.5, Takumar 135/3.5, Tair 135/2.8, Pentacon 135/2.8, CZ 135/2.8, Taika 135/3.5, Takumar 150/4, Jupiter 200/4, Takumar 200/4
Exakta: Topcon 100/2.8(M42), 35/2.8, 58/1.8, 135/2.8, 135/2.8 (M42), Kyoei Acall 135/3.5
C/Y: Yashica 28/2.8, 50/1.7, 135/2.8, Zeiss Planar 50/1.4, Distagon 25/2.8
Hexanon: 28/3.5, 35/2.8, 40/1.8, 50/1.7, 52/1.8, 135/3.2, 135/3.5, 35-70/3.5, 200/3.5
P6 : Mir 38 65/3.5, Biometar 80/2.8, Kaleinar 150/2.8, Sonnar 180/2.8
Minolta SR: 28/2.8, 28/3.5, 35/2.8, 45/2, 50/2, 58/1.4, 50/1.7, 135/2.8, 200/3.5
RF: Industar 53/2.8, Jupiter 8 50/2
Enlarg: Rodagon 50/5,6, 80/5,6, 105/5.6, Vario 44-52/4, 150/5.6 180/5.6 El Nikkor 50/2,8,63/2.8,75/4, 80/5,6, 105/5.6, 135/5.6 Schneider 60/5.6, 80/5.6, 80/4S,100/5.6S,105/5.6,135/5.6, 135/5.6S, 150/5.6S, Leica 95/4 |
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rick_oleson
Joined: 26 Feb 2007 Posts: 386 Location: Lexington Kentucky USA
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Posted: Sat Dec 08, 2007 5:49 am Post subject: |
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rick_oleson wrote:
there is the coupling lever on the back, if you can figure out a way to operate it from the outside once the lens is mounted. might be a good candidate for using on a reversing ring, then you could reach the lever.
if you do operate the coupling lever, there is no way to tell what aperture you are using.... the aperture scale is on the body, not the lens. _________________ I don't know what I want to be when I grow up |
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Farside
Joined: 01 Sep 2007 Posts: 6549 Location: Ireland
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Posted: Sat Dec 08, 2007 12:02 pm Post subject: |
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Farside wrote:
Super Tak wrote: |
Is there absolutely no way to work the aperture? |
Without the proper adapter, no. The little tangs that operate it are fiddly and don't stick out the side, but here's a guy who's adapted some of his to fit Pentax K.
http://translate.google.com/translate?u=http%3A%2F%2Fmybigeye.myweb.hinet.net%2Fbig5%2Fphotodiy.htm&langpair=zh%7Cen&hl=EN&ie=UTF-8
Click on the left 'Kodak Retina' to open up a series of Kodak lenses he's adapted using aperture rings from other lenses and mounts. The translation is very patchy. _________________ Dave - Moderator
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