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BRunner
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Posted: Wed Apr 13, 2011 10:14 am Post subject: Playing with Elmarit-R 2.8/90mm on FF |
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BRunner wrote:
Recently I've got first version of Leitz Elmarit-R 2.8/90mm produced around 1969. It's heavily used, but optically and mechanically is fine and price was reasonable.
After three outings, I think it's great lens. Very sharp from f2.8 (I almost can't see difference between f2.8 and f4) very low CA, contrasty and great natural Leica color rendering. I think that in terms of image quality it can be compared to APO Lanthar 3.5/90 or Sonnar 2.8/85. It's very sharp for close-up's too. Well, another keeper
Here is few better samples, all wide-open except #6 which was made at f4 or f5.6.
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#6
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Orio
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 29545 Location: West Emilia
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Posted: Wed Apr 13, 2011 11:12 am Post subject: |
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Orio wrote:
Very nice captures #3, 4, 5
I think it's the first time I see photos from the first version of the lens - I have the second version but from what I can see there is no real difference to be noticed.
I like the Elmarit-R 90 much. I like it better than the Summicron-R. _________________ Orio, Administrator
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IAZA
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Posted: Thu Apr 14, 2011 1:28 am Post subject: |
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IAZA wrote:
Those're very nice images.
I think my elmarit 90 is 1rst version too. And I like it very much. Another not for sale lens. CA appears only in strong light background.
I haven't try summicron yet. Maybe someday, But Orio's pointing make me doubt about summicron _________________ nex5, Olympus EPM1, yashica half 14, Canon eos 650 want to see samples of mine? please click My lenses
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Orio
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Posted: Thu Apr 14, 2011 2:59 am Post subject: |
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Orio wrote:
IAZA wrote: |
Those're very nice images.
I think my elmarit 90 is 1rst version too. And I like it very much. Another not for sale lens. CA appears only in strong light background.
I haven't try summicron yet. Maybe someday, But Orio's pointing make me doubt about summicron |
Summicron is softer at all stops.
It indeed has some kind of "magic" for glamourish shots... used wide open it provides with that soft "leica glow".
But for my liking, the Elmarit is better. Used in portraits, it makes you feel like the skin of the model is there, a few centimetres away.
I always say, there's always plenty of ways to add glow to photos, both in pre and post production... but you can't add definition that is not there to start with. _________________ Orio, Administrator
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tobbsman
Joined: 25 Jul 2008 Posts: 2578 Location: Austria
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Posted: Thu Apr 14, 2011 8:42 am Post subject: |
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tobbsman wrote:
very nice !! The portraits are very natural, especially #5 ...
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pich900
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Posted: Thu Apr 14, 2011 10:10 am Post subject: |
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pich900 wrote:
Great serie and great lens as well ....I like especialy the portrait #3 and # 4, very nice skin rendering and colours tone....
I have actualy the summicron (last version "E55"), I have no idea if the elmarit is better or not than the summicron but I must say than I'm also quite happy with my lens !!!...it is may be a little bit soft wide open but I found the rendering quite nice .....if you want to see some samples with the summicron on FF (Nikon), here is it :
http://forum.mflenses.com/portrait-leica-r-2-90mm-and2-more-shots-t32941.html
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BRunner
Joined: 29 Jul 2009 Posts: 705 Location: Czech Republic
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Posted: Thu Apr 14, 2011 11:20 am Post subject: |
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BRunner wrote:
Thank you all! I have Summicron 90 as well, but I don't used it much yet. At f2 the rendering of fine details and structures is soft, but contrast is high. Stopped down to f2.8 is not that much different to Elmarit.
I will probably keep only one of them and currently I lean more towards Elmarit, or maybe I will replace both of them with second version of Elmarit (just because is smaller and lighter).
I was too pleasantly surprised with the portraits. Lighting conditions was not easy - strong sunlight and deep shadows in the forest, but both Elmarit and 5D cope with it very well.
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BRunner
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Posted: Mon May 02, 2011 12:47 pm Post subject: |
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BRunner wrote:
Few another photos from trip to Traunstein. My only complain goes to slight greenish cast, which can be seen in the landscapes. But this is common to all older Leica lenses and I don't see it with my Leica lenses made after 1990.
Does anybody know when approximately Leica changed coatings on their lenses?
I had APO-Telyt from 1982 with greenish cast (though lower than APO-Telyt from 1979). But my latest APO-Telyt from 1992 has already very neutral color rendering (comparable to APO-Macro-Elmarit made after 2000).
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tobbsman
Joined: 25 Jul 2008 Posts: 2578 Location: Austria
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Posted: Mon May 02, 2011 3:21 pm Post subject: |
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tobbsman wrote:
That's a cracker, superb !
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LucisPictor
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Posted: Mon May 02, 2011 4:16 pm Post subject: |
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LucisPictor wrote:
Wonderful shots here in this thread!
I was allowed to try the later version of the Elmarit 90 in Italy, Orio's copy and I really, really liked it.
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