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iangreenhalgh1
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iangreenhalgh1 wrote:
That would make the 3.5/200 Soligor a Tokina as well then as it looks so similar to that 135.
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I've got three of that chrome ears series which at a glance all look as though they were from the same manufacturer, but the 300 has a 375860 number, it's a Sun lens ( I like this one a lot ) and the 35 has a 9697640 Kino number ( another lens I struggle with )
Soligor obviously had the buying power to ensure that their brand look was maintained by whoever was making the lenses. It's only the little details that seem to be giving us clues.
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My Itohkogaku Higon 135/3.5 lens with H s/n
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walter g
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walter g wrote:
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No, it's not Miranda it's a M39 / T2 mount lens.
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Links must be broken? Can you repost these images. Please.
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walter g
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walter g wrote:
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I've got three of that chrome ears series which at a glance all look as though they were from the same manufacturer, but the 300 has a 375860 number, it's a Sun lens ( I like this one a lot ) and the 35 has a 9697640 Kino number ( another lens I struggle with )
Soligor obviously had the buying power to ensure that their brand look was maintained by whoever was making the lenses. It's only the little details that seem to be giving us clues. |
+1
It makes trying to ID Soligor lenses very hard.
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walter g
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walter g wrote:
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My Itohkogaku Higon 135/3.5 lens with H s/n
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Pretty exciting lens.  Itoh made there own lenses, so if this one is made in house that meens all H code lenses aren't Tokinas.
With Storm cleanup and repairs to my rental houses, and doctor appointments 5 days a week for my Dad, it will be awhile before I can get my lenses out and add then to this thread.
Thanks everyone that's posted so far. Please anyone else with a letter code lens, add it to this thread.
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Lloydy wrote:
Pictures reinstated. Did I mention I hate Photobucket ? 
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iangreenhalgh1
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iangreenhalgh1 wrote:
I stopped using it a long time ago, too annoying!
I just picked up a very cheap Optomax 35mm lens that has a R serial and looks like it is the same as the R serial Soligors so maybe an Itoh made item?
Optomax also sold other lenses in this same series, there is a 135mm that is clearly the same, I think there is a 100mm too.
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iangreenhalgh1
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iangreenhalgh1 wrote:
Then there is this Hanimex 4/100 with a H serial, it has a T mount:
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ManualFocus-G wrote:
The 100/4 is a Tokina lens and has been identified on this site a few times now 
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iangreenhalgh1
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iangreenhalgh1 wrote:
I thought it was the same one as I'd seen before but wasn't sure. How is the IQ?
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walter g
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walter g wrote:
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No, it's not Miranda mount it's a M39 / T2 mount lens.
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Thank You for reposting the pictures. I made an error in my earlier post. I said late 60's to early 70's Tokina. To be more presise, the number code version of this lens is mostly seen fron 1969-1971. Your lens is earlier. I would guess mid 60's?
I didn't have a pic of a 135mm lens, but here is the 105 2.8 Tokina.
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luisalegria wrote:
The 100/4 Tokina is a pretty darn fine lens I think.
Or its a lucky lens, maybe.
http://forum.mflenses.com/palinar-tokina-100-4-m42-preset-the-smallest-tokina-t11952,highlight,%2Bpalinar.html
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walter g
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walter g wrote:
I found a couple of pics of my Soligor 100-200 f5.6 zoom. It's a H Code lens. Older style Soligor writing like Lloydy's M code lens.
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ManualFocus-G wrote:
I had the newer version of the Soligor 100-200/5.6 push-pull zoom and it had a Kino serial i.e. 96xxxxx. Presuming this is the same lens, it looks like Kino had H lenses too!
Pictures and samples towards the bottom of this thread:
http://forum.mflenses.com/the-big-soligor-thread-t33736,start,30.html
Nice swirly bokeh!
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casualcollector
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casualcollector wrote:
Hare brained theory... Perhaps "H" signifies the trading co. that sold these lenses to the marketing organizations. The Japanese binocular industry had a standard set of markings that signified the manufacturer, maybe this was a similar effort.
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ManualFocus-G wrote:
I did wonder if the H stood for Hanimex...
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Mos6502
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Mos6502 wrote:
Maybe somebody should write one of the still existing companies and ask what the significance of the H was in their serial numbers. |
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Lloydy wrote:
Further confusion.......
Today I saw another Soligor, italic script - T2 / M39 35mm f3.5 lens that had a number starting with 'KA'
It was attached to a Zenit B and both were in very good condition, it was in a charity shop at £20, the guy came down to £15.
But I resisted, firstly I've got 3 Zenits already, and secondly, the Soligor was the same as the ill fated Prinz Galaxy 35mm lenst that was going to be the crap lens challenge lens until I superglued it into a solid lump ! It's a crap lens whether it's Soligor or Prinz.
But the Soligor KA number intrigued me.
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pdccameras wrote:
Nothing new here, but I thought I would throw in a few Soligors (and a Hanimex) for good measure!
Here we see:
1) 400mm f/6.3 Soligor Tele-Auto No. 17104201
2) 100mm f/4 Hanimex Tele Lens No. H36446
3) 35mm f/2.8 Soligor M197455
Hope this helps solve the mystery!
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walter g wrote:
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Further confusion.......
Today I saw another Soligor, italic script - T2 / M39 35mm f3.5 lens that had a number starting with 'KA'
It was attached to a Zenit B and both were in very good condition, it was in a charity shop at £20, the guy came down to £15.
But I resisted, firstly I've got 3 Zenits already, and secondly, the Soligor was the same as the ill fated Prinz Galaxy 35mm lenst that was going to be the crap lens challenge lens until I superglued it into a solid lump ! It's a crap lens whether it's Soligor or Prinz.
But the Soligor KA number intrigued me. |
I might have a picture of a Soligor KA code lens. If I do I will post it. I really need to organize my pictures better.
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walter g
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walter g wrote:
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Nothing new here, but I thought I would throw in a few Soligors (and a Hanimex) for good measure!
Here we see:
1) 400mm f/6.3 Soligor Tele-Auto No. 17104201
2) 100mm f/4 Hanimex Tele Lens No. H36446
3) 35mm f/2.8 Soligor M197455
Hope this helps solve the mystery!
Paul
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Thanks Paul. All 3 are Tokina made. I really need to get me a copy of the 100 f4, that's one I don't have yet.
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luisalegria wrote:
For the 100/4 -
These may not have made it to the US very often.
I found mine in UK ebay years ago, "Palinar" brand. I have seen them also as Hanimex.
UK may be a good place to look.
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walter g
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walter g wrote:
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For the 100/4 -
These may not have made it to the US very often.
I found mine in UK ebay years ago, "Palinar" brand. I have seen them also as Hanimex.
UK may be a good place to look. |
Thank You, I will keep an eye on Ebay UK.
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iangreenhalgh1
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iangreenhalgh1 wrote:
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For the 100/4 -
These may not have made it to the US very often.
I found mine in UK ebay years ago, "Palinar" brand. I have seen them also as Hanimex.
UK may be a good place to look. |
Yes, seems common here, there is a Palinar (which I am currently the high bidder on) and a Hanimex listed atm, there might be others that I haven't spotted as well.
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