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Attila
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Posted: Sat Jan 12, 2008 8:11 am Post subject: Canon EOS M42 adapter problem |
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Attila wrote:
I got this mail from a customer who bought lenses from me. I don't have Canon EOS camera so I can't answer his question. Please answer to him.
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Hello Attila,
Got a question for you regarding an adapter for m42 lenses to Canon EOS camera, I hope you can help me with this. I know you deal with manual focus lenses, so I figure maybe you can answer my question.
I got 3 adapters (cheap ones) and with all 3 of them, there is a difference between the vertical of the camera and the vertical of the lens between 30 and 8 degrees, basically the lens do not scrue themselfs to align perfectly to vertical of the camera.
Now, my question is: is this the case for the cheap adapters, or all of them are the same (maibe a technical issue or something). Could you recommend me the best adapter you know to fit a M42 to Canon Eos ? Also this subject might be interesting to be placed on the site as whell, since there are a lot of people who would like to use old manual lenses on the new digital cameras.
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Orio
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 29545 Location: West Emilia
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Posted: Sat Jan 12, 2008 10:09 am Post subject: |
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Orio wrote:
Yes some adapters are correct others are not. But I am unable to tell which is good which is not because I don't remember where I bought this or that.
Anyway one must not be paranoid about it, and use the lens as is. Functionally nothing is compromised. If someone is so anal that he wants everything perfectly aligned etc. he should buy a Canon lens. When you get close to old lenses that were not designed for modern system, you need to be flexible in spirit. People who are afraid of the things not perfectly aligned by the millimeter should choose another hobby. _________________ Orio, Administrator
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LucisPictor
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Posted: Sat Jan 12, 2008 10:09 am Post subject: |
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LucisPictor wrote:
I am not sure if I understand him correctly, but if I do, I would say this is "normal" for M42 adapters.
With some adapters you can see the aperture markings at the right position (top), with some they are somewhere at the side of the lens and with some they even are only visible if you turn the cam upside down. _________________ Personal forum activity on pause every now and again (due to job obligations)!
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Orio
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Posted: Sat Jan 12, 2008 10:11 am Post subject: |
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Orio wrote:
LucisPictor wrote: |
I am not sure if I understand him correctly, but if I do, I would say this is "normal" for M42 adapters.
With some adapters you can see the aperture markings at the right position (top), with some they are somewhere at the side of the lens and with some they even are only visible if you turn the cam upside down. |
I never got any adapter that presented the lens upside down.
Only laterally. _________________ Orio, Administrator
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Attila
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Posted: Sat Jan 12, 2008 10:25 am Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
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Nelson
Joined: 06 Jan 2008 Posts: 618 Location: close to Paris, France
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Posted: Sat Jan 12, 2008 11:56 am Post subject: |
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Nelson wrote:
I am not sure to understand the problem ?
Do To the person ask if this is normal "the apertures values not in front of the "top" of the EOS ?"
If this is the question i answer, YES
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LucisPictor
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Posted: Sat Jan 12, 2008 11:58 am Post subject: |
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LucisPictor wrote:
Orio wrote: |
LucisPictor wrote: |
I am not sure if I understand him correctly, but if I do, I would say this is "normal" for M42 adapters.
With some adapters you can see the aperture markings at the right position (top), with some they are somewhere at the side of the lens and with some they even are only visible if you turn the cam upside down. |
I never got any adapter that presented the lens upside down.
Only laterally. |
I also only have one, thank God! _________________ Personal forum activity on pause every now and again (due to job obligations)!
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peterqd
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Posted: Sat Jan 12, 2008 12:28 pm Post subject: |
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peterqd wrote:
I have 4 M42 > EOS adapters, 3 plain ones made of chrome-plated brass and a black anodised aluminium one with AF chip. They all function perfectly but only the black one lines up the lens correctly and I use it nearly all the time. I bought it from happypagehk _________________ Peter - Moderator |
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Orio
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Posted: Sat Jan 12, 2008 1:15 pm Post subject: |
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Orio wrote:
I am not much annoyed by the "lateral" adapters.
I am much more annoyed when you spend hundreds on an autofocus lens that is supposed to track moving objects quickly while in reality it misses focus soon and starts hunting between subject and the background - which is what at least 70% of autofocus lenses do, but it is verboten to say - may we never say that except for the most expensive professional lenses, the AF technology basically sucks. _________________ Orio, Administrator
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Farside
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Posted: Sat Jan 12, 2008 5:02 pm Post subject: |
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Farside wrote:
It seems to be a common problem with M42/EOS adapters. No easy fix for it, either. Packing the thread would affect the register distance, so that's no good.
It all comes down to the maker not starting the thread at exactly the right spot. _________________ Dave - Moderator
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patrickh
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Posted: Sat Jan 12, 2008 6:05 pm Post subject: |
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patrickh wrote:
I have adapters for M42/Oly and M42/Nikon and both have the same problem - it works with some lenses and not others.
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F16SUNSHINE
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Posted: Sun Jan 13, 2008 2:15 am Post subject: |
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F16SUNSHINE wrote:
My experience is varied. Currently I have only one m42 adapter it is from happypagehk. With pentax lenses the focus and aperture index is off center but not much. With Tomioka it is centered mostly. Others are all over the board some close to center some a bit off. I don't understand why it would make any difference ? All of the bayonet mount adapters are fine.
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Flor27
Joined: 13 Sep 2007 Posts: 1195 Location: Paris, France
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Posted: Sun Jan 13, 2008 6:29 am Post subject: |
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Flor27 wrote:
I have 3 kind of M42 to EOS adapters, all of them are 15° left aligned; I guess it's to facilitate the reading of the lens values with the protruding flash than most EOS cameras have. _________________ Switching from M42 to Minolta MD & Contax/Yashica |
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hacksawbob
Joined: 28 Feb 2007 Posts: 1293 Location: LANCS UK
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Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2008 10:56 am Post subject: |
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hacksawbob wrote:
I have some lenses that sit different on the same adapter. not a big problem as focus and aperture are done by feel anyway. I have a recolection about super wides like the peleng not sitting straight that caused problems. Also you can mount the M42 adapter on each of the three flanges of the EF mount but two do not have a stop so they can fall off if twisted. _________________ LENS LIST |
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