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Spotmatic
Joined: 18 Aug 2008 Posts: 4045 Location: Netherlands
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Posted: Sun Jan 03, 2010 2:48 pm Post subject: A winter walk I: Asahi 58mm f/2 Takumar |
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Spotmatic wrote:
A few shots with the already "famous" Asahi 58mm f/2 Takumar (Sonnar-type).
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_________________ Peter - Moderator
Pentax K-5 + Pentax 645 + Canon 5D + Bessa RF 10,5cm Heliar, and a 'little' bag full of MF lenses. The lens list is * here *.
My fast 80s: Asahi-Kogaku Takumar 83mm f/1.9 - Super-Takumar 85mm f/1.9 - FA 77mm f/1.8 Limited - Cyclop 85/1.5 (Helios-40 innards) - Komura 80mm f/1.8 - Meyer Görlitz Primoplan 7,5cm 1:1.9 - Carl Zeiss Jena 80mm f/1.8 Pancolar - Canon 85mm f/1.8 S.S.C. - Canon 85mm f/1.2 S.S.C. Aspherical |
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kds315*
Joined: 12 Mar 2008 Posts: 16652 Location: Weinheim, Germany
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Posted: Sun Jan 03, 2010 3:03 pm Post subject: |
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kds315* wrote:
It carries its reputation obviously not just from hearsay,
but great performance!! Thanks for proving that with
your great shots (as always)! _________________ Klaus - Admin
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tobbsman
Joined: 25 Jul 2008 Posts: 2578 Location: Austria
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Posted: Sun Jan 03, 2010 3:53 pm Post subject: |
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tobbsman wrote:
Unique photographs showing Dutch landscapes with so much snow (I am just experiencing that in Goes, nothing working here; even the railway system was out of order )
Cheers
Tobias _________________ Camera Pentax K10D, K20D, Super A
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LucisPictor
Joined: 26 Feb 2007 Posts: 17633 Location: Oberhessen, Germany / Maidstone ('95-'96)
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Posted: Sun Jan 03, 2010 4:08 pm Post subject: |
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LucisPictor wrote:
Once again very nice. My favs are 2, 3 and 7. _________________ Personal forum activity on pause every now and again (due to job obligations)!
Carsten, former Moderator
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taunusreiter
Joined: 20 Mar 2007 Posts: 127
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Posted: Tue Jan 05, 2010 6:08 pm Post subject: |
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taunusreiter wrote:
From these pics it can be seen that PENTAX hadn't ceased production of it after just one year because it lacks sharpness or optical quality. There were other reasons obviously. I haven't done any critical work with mine but it's also great with portraiture, nudes and stuff like that. _________________ My flickr Gallery
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Spotmatic
Joined: 18 Aug 2008 Posts: 4045 Location: Netherlands
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Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2010 2:58 pm Post subject: |
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Spotmatic wrote:
I will try to use the lens for portraits, something I haven't done yet. At least not seriously.
I'm still surprised why Mr. Suzuki opted for the Sonnar design for this lens. At that time the Double Gauss principle was already known. Maybe he wanted to do something unique? He was still alive in early 2000 (Nobuyuki Yoshida, the designer of the Asahiflex, was still alive too) but I'm not sure about today. Maybe I could try to ask Pentax again (I had several conversations with a PR person in Tokyo back then).
I still don't understand why the 83mm f/1.9 had to be changed to a version with two elements less (other than for cost-cutting purposes) because it's really a great lens. Maybe it was too sharp for a portrait lens? _________________ Peter - Moderator
Pentax K-5 + Pentax 645 + Canon 5D + Bessa RF 10,5cm Heliar, and a 'little' bag full of MF lenses. The lens list is * here *.
My fast 80s: Asahi-Kogaku Takumar 83mm f/1.9 - Super-Takumar 85mm f/1.9 - FA 77mm f/1.8 Limited - Cyclop 85/1.5 (Helios-40 innards) - Komura 80mm f/1.8 - Meyer Görlitz Primoplan 7,5cm 1:1.9 - Carl Zeiss Jena 80mm f/1.8 Pancolar - Canon 85mm f/1.8 S.S.C. - Canon 85mm f/1.2 S.S.C. Aspherical |
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taunusreiter
Joined: 20 Mar 2007 Posts: 127
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Posted: Sat Jan 16, 2010 10:20 pm Post subject: |
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taunusreiter wrote:
Peter: The triplet groups always were expensive to made. The Zeiss Sonnar 50/1.5 costs a fortune back than (DM 475,- in 1954, a Tessar was DM 155,-). This was when a typical month's salary was 300 DM. I think cost was a main reason why Zeiss Oberkochen never started a 85/1.5 Sonnar - look at the Nikkor 85/1.5: it's a 100% Zeiss copy (a blown up 50/1.5 - don't you think Zeiss couldn't copy themselves?
The Ultron type (6/5) won against the Planar type (6/4) for the same reason: one cemented element less = less cost. And why not, at equal performance?
As for the Tak 83/1.9 vs 85/1.9: I think the older lens was the better one. All Ernostar designs until the 1970's are at their very limits at f/1.8-2.0, and the Pentax were no exceptions. That's why Zeiss just did it with f/2.8 for the Rolleiflex 35 and Zeiss/Yashica. I found the best Ernostars made by Komura. But they were specialized on them. The OM Zuiko 85/2 is also better, but is a design 15 years younger than the S-Tak 85/1.9. _________________ My flickr Gallery
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