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PostPosted: Wed Oct 31, 2012 9:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
iangreenhalgh1 wrote:
Very common, they were produced in great numbers over lengthy production lives and were exported in great numbers as one of the prime hard currency earners for the East German economy.

The problem with Puts' writings is he doesn't relate the technical to the aesthetic, a picture says as thousand words, and I'd much rather see some pictures from a lens than read a thousands words about it's correction of lateral chromatic abberation or how even it's illumination is at a certain aperture.



Interesting. The images look fairly good, but the contrast, colour quality, etc., compared to other lenses is always an issue. I would like to see a comparison with the 1964 Summicron-R, at wide apertures. The Leitz design was optimised for large apertures and close focussing distances, according to Puts.

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 31, 2012 9:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
There are more things between heaven and hell, Horatio, than are dreamt of in your philosophy.


PostPosted: Wed Oct 31, 2012 9:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Nisseliten wrote:
There are more things between heaven and hell, Horatio, than are dreamt of in your philosophy.
Hey whats a swede doing quoting a dane/Brit? Smile


PostPosted: Wed Oct 31, 2012 9:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
maxcastle wrote:
Nisseliten wrote:
There are more things between heaven and hell, Horatio, than are dreamt of in your philosophy.
Hey whats a swede doing quoting a dane/Brit? Smile


Despite popular beliefs that swedes are nomadic folk that ride the mighty elk into glorious battle, that is more of a weekend thing nowadays. Some of us actually do read. Smile


PostPosted: Wed Oct 31, 2012 9:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Oreste wrote:
iangreenhalgh1 wrote:
Very common, they were produced in great numbers over lengthy production lives and were exported in great numbers as one of the prime hard currency earners for the East German economy.

The problem with Puts' writings is he doesn't relate the technical to the aesthetic, a picture says as thousand words, and I'd much rather see some pictures from a lens than read a thousands words about it's correction of lateral chromatic abberation or how even it's illumination is at a certain aperture.



Interesting. The images look fairly good, but the contrast, colour quality, etc., compared to other lenses is always an issue. I would like to see a comparison with the 1964 Summicron-R, at wide apertures. The Leitz design was optimised for large apertures and close focussing distances, according to Puts.


It wouldn't do any better in the light available in February in the north of England than the Pancolar did. Light is always the biggest factor.


PostPosted: Wed Oct 31, 2012 10:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
iangreenhalgh1 wrote:
Oreste wrote:
iangreenhalgh1 wrote:
Very common, they were produced in great numbers over lengthy production lives and were exported in great numbers as one of the prime hard currency earners for the East German economy.

The problem with Puts' writings is he doesn't relate the technical to the aesthetic, a picture says as thousand words, and I'd much rather see some pictures from a lens than read a thousands words about it's correction of lateral chromatic abberation or how even it's illumination is at a certain aperture.



Interesting. The images look fairly good, but the contrast, colour quality, etc., compared to other lenses is always an issue. I would like to see a comparison with the 1964 Summicron-R, at wide apertures. The Leitz design was optimised for large apertures and close focussing distances, according to Puts.


It wouldn't do any better in the light available in February in the north of England than the Pancolar did. Light is always the biggest factor.


Well nothing matters in England anyway. LOL


PostPosted: Wed Oct 31, 2012 11:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
I'll bet that dreary English sky is great for pictures at times. I'm stuck here with bright sun and blue sky. Cool


PostPosted: Wed Oct 31, 2012 11:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
woodrim wrote:
I'll bet that dreary English sky is great for pictures at times. I'm stuck here with bright sun and blue sky. Cool


Sicily?


PostPosted: Thu Nov 01, 2012 12:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Oreste wrote:
woodrim wrote:
I'll bet that dreary English sky is great for pictures at times. I'm stuck here with bright sun and blue sky. Cool


Sicily?


Doesn't require much skill to take nice pics in good light conditions, as I sad, light is the major factor.


PostPosted: Thu Nov 01, 2012 1:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Puts can write what he wants, but that doesn't mean he's right. Laughing I'm actually kind of amused because most believe the Summicron R was only "average" in its category, and certainly not as nice of a lens as the RF version. The Pancolar was a design from a company that had already had decades of experience designing SLR lenses, the best SLR lenses of the era.


PostPosted: Thu Nov 01, 2012 1:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Mos6502 wrote:
Puts can write what he wants, but that doesn't mean he's right. Laughing I'm actually kind of amused because most believe the Summicron R was only "average" in its category, and certainly not as nice of a lens as the RF version. The Pancolar was a design from a company that had already had decades of experience designing SLR lenses, the best SLR lenses of the era.


Cough, cough.

Rolling Eyes

Puts is very knowledgeable.

I have owned the 1964 Summicron-R, the 1976 Summicron-R, and the 1969 Summilux-R (4 copies). I currently own the Summilux-R. I preferred the 1964 version overall to the 1976 version.


PostPosted: Thu Nov 01, 2012 1:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Oreste wrote:
Mos6502 wrote:
Puts can write what he wants, but that doesn't mean he's right. Laughing I'm actually kind of amused because most believe the Summicron R was only "average" in its category, and certainly not as nice of a lens as the RF version. The Pancolar was a design from a company that had already had decades of experience designing SLR lenses, the best SLR lenses of the era.


Cough, cough.

Rolling Eyes

Puts is very knowledgeable.

I have owned the 1964 Summicron-R, the 1976 Summicron-R, and the 1969 Summilux-R (4 copies). I currently own the Summilux-R. I preferred the 1964 version overall to the 1976 version.


Frankly my dear, I don't give a damn.

Show me some results instead of puffing hot air, and you've got something worth believing. Wink


PostPosted: Thu Nov 01, 2012 10:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
My first tests.

Sun flare.



PostPosted: Thu Nov 01, 2012 12:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
I love first and last one, beautiful model , pose middle one is too foggy to me.


PostPosted: Thu Nov 01, 2012 1:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Gothic_Snake wrote:
My first tests.


Tests of what? Colour seems a little magenta to my eye.


PostPosted: Thu Nov 01, 2012 1:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Attila wrote:
I love first and last one, beautiful model , pose middle one is too foggy to me.

+1 for all points.
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