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Attila wrote:
I am thinking to buy a 645 camera for my 6x6 lenses.
Which one should I take ? Pentax, Mamiya , Bronica ?
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A G Photography
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| Posted: Sun May 10, 2009 11:26 pm Post subject: Re: Which 645 camera? |
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A G Photography wrote:
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I am thinking to buy a 645 camera for my 6x6 lenses.
Which one should I take ? Pentax, Mamiya , Bronica ? |
I have a Pentax 645 and I'm pretty happy of it (all the P6 lenses are compatible with a simple adapter and camera meter work with them), I guess Mamiya is also pretty good, but I found out that newer models are a lot more expensive than Pentax. Adapter for P6 lenses also availabele.
Bronica is also good even if of slightly lower quality, I don't know if there's an adapter to use P6 lenses on it.
You forgot Contax 645, there's one on sale in very good condition at above 1000 euro. Imho the price difference is ridicolous, but you can have Zeiss lenses on it... or just switch directly to a new Hassy X series (they also work with film backs) and spare for a digital back 
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Attila
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| Posted: Sun May 10, 2009 11:29 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
 Contax not an option due it's price level.
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| Posted: Sun May 10, 2009 11:39 pm Post subject: |
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Orio wrote:
buy one that you can mount Pentacon 6 lenses upon.
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| Posted: Sun May 10, 2009 11:41 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
I think adapter available for all three.
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hk300
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| Posted: Mon May 11, 2009 3:30 am Post subject: |
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hk300 wrote:
what is the price for a Pentax 645 camera body?
i have a friend who has a few, and he is willing to sell them,but he does not know what is a fair price?
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| Posted: Mon May 11, 2009 5:51 am Post subject: |
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Laurence wrote:
I think a VERY good body alone would go for about $200-$250 these days.
I have the Pentax 645, and for me it fits extremely well in my hands. And as Orio and Alessandro indicate, the availability of Pentacon 6 lenses gives you more options, although the Pentax-A lenses are simply fabulous.
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| Posted: Mon May 11, 2009 8:53 am Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
Keh.com there is plenty all time.
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| Posted: Tue May 12, 2009 12:36 am Post subject: |
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dof wrote:
I have a Bronica ETR-C which I enjoy. I have used an Mamiya M645
in the past and feel that the Bronica has slightly better build quality.
(That's just my subjective impression.)
The ETR-series are lens-shutter cameras while the the M645 is a focal
plane shutter in the body (but some Mamiya leaf shutter lenses are
available).
The ETR-C is usually a good bargain if you can find one. It doesn't
use interchangeable film backs, just film inserts like the early M645.
I don't need to switch film mid-roll so I don't care about having backs
and I like the cost savings. I also don't have to worry about dark slides.
The ETR-C is compatible with all ETR series lenses and accessories
except the backs.
The ETR-C is not the same as the ETRC. The ETR-C is later than
the ETRC and has a few more features.
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Attila
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| Posted: Tue May 12, 2009 12:50 am Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
Thank you!
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| Posted: Tue May 26, 2009 3:35 pm Post subject: |
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spiralcity wrote:
I also own 2 Bronicas. They will get the job done.
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| Posted: Tue May 26, 2009 4:19 pm Post subject: |
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Sevo wrote:
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| I also own 2 Bronicas. They will get the job done. |
I don't think so. As a host for alien lenses, only a FP shutter camera would be a reasonable option - and the older FP shutter Bronicas (up to ECTL) with their odd inset mount would make extremely bad hosts for other brand lenses.
Given their relatively short register distance, the Pentax 645 or a Mamiya 645/645pro would be best for this purpose.
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| Posted: Tue May 26, 2009 4:25 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
Short register distance is vital information to me , many thanks Sevo!
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rick44 wrote:
My vote is for Mamiya 645 1000S.
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| Posted: Tue May 26, 2009 4:48 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
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| My vote is for Mamiya 645 1000S. |
Why ? Is it better than Pentax 645 ? or just feeling ?
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rick44 wrote:
No I would not say better. I'm thinking of getting a pentax 67. This habit is hard on the wallet. Just feeling. Plus I have 2.
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| Posted: Tue May 26, 2009 6:56 pm Post subject: |
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spiralcity wrote:
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| spiralcity wrote: |
| I also own 2 Bronicas. They will get the job done. |
I don't think so. As a host for alien lenses, only a FP shutter camera would be a reasonable option - and the older FP shutter Bronicas (up to ECTL) with their odd inset mount would make extremely bad hosts for other brand lenses.
Given their relatively short register distance, the Pentax 645 or a Mamiya 645/645pro would be best for this purpose.
Sevo |
UMM.... I must have missed something?
What purpose? I thought we were just speaking of medium format camreas here. MY BAD!
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| Posted: Tue May 26, 2009 7:12 pm Post subject: |
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Sevo wrote:
To quote the initial posting:
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| I am thinking to buy a 645 camera for my 6x6 lenses. |
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| Posted: Tue May 26, 2009 7:33 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
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| No I would not say better. I'm thinking of getting a pentax 67. This habit is hard on the wallet. Just feeling. Plus I have 2. |
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magnet-2009 wrote:
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Attila, you like to change lenses, don't you?
If you don't and you want to go for 645 or bigger then see the following sharp dreams of mine.
http://www.keh.com/OnLineStore/ProductList.aspx?Mode=&item=0&ActivateTOC2=&BC=FM&BCC=5&ID=42&CC=4&CCC=1&BCL=&GBC=&GCC=
May be someday the dreams come true. [ 2 x 690 GS, GSW will be fine  ]
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| Posted: Tue May 26, 2009 8:26 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
Yes, I know them well. I am perfectly satisfied with my 6x9 Bessa folders. I am looking for 645 because I would test series of my P6 lenses. My first camera was a Pentacon Six , now I would try something different. Sometimes I would like to test 6x9 RF from Fuji too.
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spiralcity wrote:
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To quote the initial posting:
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| I am thinking to buy a 645 camera for my 6x6 lenses. |
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si..
I must have had my eyes closed... 
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| Posted: Fri May 29, 2009 9:29 am Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
I found a cheap working P645 with both type of insert.I did bought it, 127 USD was a bargain in my opinion. I would test all my P6 lenses with this camera before I let them to go.
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GrahamNR17 wrote:
127 bucks? You stole it from him! |
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rick44
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| Posted: Fri May 29, 2009 10:42 am Post subject: |
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rick44 wrote:
That's a bargin.
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