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PostPosted: Mon Nov 04, 2024 11:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Lloydy wrote:


Can you post pictures of the lens please, I'm intrigued Question



Minolta MC Rokkor-PG 58mm f1.2:

Minolta MC Rokkor-PG 58mm f1.2 by Pepperberry Farm, on Flickr

Minolta MC Rokkor-PG 58mm f1.2 by Pepperberry Farm, on Flickr

Minolta MC Rokkor-PG 58mm f1.2 by Pepperberry Farm, on Flickr


and next to the Minolta MC Rokkor-PF 55mm f1.4 (on the right):

Minolta 58/1.2 vs 58/1.4 by Pepperberry Farm, on Flickr


PostPosted: Mon Nov 04, 2024 11:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
stevemark wrote:
Vintage_Photographer wrote:
Just added a Minolta 75-200 f4.5 to the collection.
...
2. It's huge. Especially compared to the Tokina 70-210 it's replacing. The Tokina is very compact - not far off the size of the MD III 35-70 whereas the 75-200 Minolta is near double the length.

Wait until you get the Minolta MD 8/100-500mm!




Vintage_Photographer wrote:

One thing I'm puzzled by though. I keep seeing references to the Minolta 'Beer Can' sometimes referring to the 75-200 f4.5, sometimes to the 70-200 f4 and sometimes to the AF version of the 70-200 f4. Which one is it?.


The term "beercan" was applied to the Minolta AF 4/70-210mm around 2004 when the first real digital SLR from Minolta hit the market and everyone was struggling to get old MinAF glass. Not much later the term "big beercan" was created for the first-gen MinAF 4.5-5.6/75-300mm (a very good zoom for its time, and very expensive when new).

That said, the Minolta MD 4/70-210mm shares the same [12/9] optical construction with the MinAF 4/70-210. The (earlier) MD 4.5/75-200 has a more complicated - but not better! - [15/11] construction.

S


That 100-500 is a beast!

Here's what I mean about the MD 75-200 vs the Tokina 70-210

From the left:
MD 100-300 f5.6, MD 75-200 f4 5, Tokina 70-210 f4-5.6, ND III 35-70 f3.5

The Tokina is very compact for its focal length.



PostPosted: Tue Nov 05, 2024 9:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Vintage_Photographer wrote:
stevemark wrote:
Vintage_Photographer wrote:
Just added a Minolta 75-200 f4.5 to the collection.
...
2. It's huge. Especially compared to the Tokina 70-210 it's replacing. The Tokina is very compact - not far off the size of the MD III 35-70 whereas the 75-200 Minolta is near double the length.

Wait until you get the Minolta MD 8/100-500mm!




Vintage_Photographer wrote:

One thing I'm puzzled by though. I keep seeing references to the Minolta 'Beer Can' sometimes referring to the 75-200 f4.5, sometimes to the 70-200 f4 and sometimes to the AF version of the 70-200 f4. Which one is it?.


The term "beercan" was applied to the Minolta AF 4/70-210mm around 2004 when the first real digital SLR from Minolta hit the market and everyone was struggling to get old MinAF glass. Not much later the term "big beercan" was created for the first-gen MinAF 4.5-5.6/75-300mm (a very good zoom for its time, and very expensive when new).

That said, the Minolta MD 4/70-210mm shares the same [12/9] optical construction with the MinAF 4/70-210. The (earlier) MD 4.5/75-200 has a more complicated - but not better! - [15/11] construction.

S


That 100-500 is a beast!

Here's what I mean about the MD 75-200 vs the Tokina 70-210

From the left:
MD 100-300 f5.6, MD 75-200 f4 5, Tokina 70-210 f4-5.6, ND III 35-70 f3.5

The Tokina is very compact for its focal length.



These Tokina should be fabulous lenses since they result from fine computations. But I never succeeded buying a Tokina zoom without decentered elements resulting in rotating tilt planes that infuriated me since sharpness was excellent where you could exactly focus the lens. How was yours?


PostPosted: Tue Nov 05, 2024 9:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
lumens pixel wrote:


These Tokina should be fabulous lenses since they result from fine computations. But I never succeeded buying a Tokina zoom without decentered elements


The Minolta MD 3.5-4.5/35-105mm (I) obviously is a clone of the corresponding Tokina RMC 3.5-4.3 (sic) / 35-105mm. I have several samples of the Tokina as well as of the Minolta. The Minolta siblings consistently do perform better ... Well - quality control does matter, especially with zoom lenses! While the optical computation for both lenses may be the same, its mechanical construction, some materials and the entire quality control obviously are differing ...

S


PostPosted: Wed Nov 06, 2024 9:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
lumens pixel wrote:
Vintage_Photographer wrote:
stevemark wrote:
Vintage_Photographer wrote:
Just added a Minolta 75-200 f4.5 to the collection.
...
2. It's huge. Especially compared to the Tokina 70-210 it's replacing. The Tokina is very compact - not far off the size of the MD III 35-70 whereas the 75-200 Minolta is near double the length.

Wait until you get the Minolta MD 8/100-500mm!




Vintage_Photographer wrote:

One thing I'm puzzled by though. I keep seeing references to the Minolta 'Beer Can' sometimes referring to the 75-200 f4.5, sometimes to the 70-200 f4 and sometimes to the AF version of the 70-200 f4. Which one is it?.


The term "beercan" was applied to the Minolta AF 4/70-210mm around 2004 when the first real digital SLR from Minolta hit the market and everyone was struggling to get old MinAF glass. Not much later the term "big beercan" was created for the first-gen MinAF 4.5-5.6/75-300mm (a very good zoom for its time, and very expensive when new).

That said, the Minolta MD 4/70-210mm shares the same [12/9] optical construction with the MinAF 4/70-210. The (earlier) MD 4.5/75-200 has a more complicated - but not better! - [15/11] construction.

S


That 100-500 is a beast!

Here's what I mean about the MD 75-200 vs the Tokina 70-210

From the left:
MD 100-300 f5.6, MD 75-200 f4 5, Tokina 70-210 f4-5.6, ND III 35-70 f3.5

The Tokina is very compact for its focal length.



These Tokina should be fabulous lenses since they result from fine computations. But I never succeeded buying a Tokina zoom without decentered elements resulting in rotating tilt planes that infuriated me since sharpness was excellent where you could exactly focus the lens. How was yours?


Sharpness is 'ok' but not a patch on the Minolta from a quick test. Let me have a play in the morning and see how it looks with a bit more testing.


PostPosted: Wed Nov 06, 2024 10:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
pepperberry farm wrote:
Lloydy wrote:


Can you post pictures of the lens please, I'm intrigued Question



Minolta MC Rokkor-PG 58mm f1.2:



I have the same version and I love it


PostPosted: Wed Nov 06, 2024 10:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
stevemark wrote:
mouks wrote:
MC Zoom Rokkor 40-80mm f/2.8.
...
At 170 CHF in very good condition, I had to get it.


On eof the few Minolta lenses for the SR bayonet I don't own Wink. I had the opportunity to play with one, a few years ago, and I was pretty surprised about its performance - given that it's a mid-range f2.8 zoom from the mid 1970s!

Certainly a good price, and a nice "new" tool ... !

S


Yes, the price was right considering how expensive they usually are. By the way, the same seller also had one of these giant 100-500mm f/8 for sale a few weeks ago, I'm ashamed I forgot to bid as it sold for dirt cheap, it should be worth these 30 CHF in scrap metal alone! https://www.ricardo.ch/fr/a/minolta-zoom-rokkor-100-500mm-objektiv-mit-tasche-1270094924/

I took this 40-80/2.8 out today but there was only a few minutes of sunlight left, days are getting short!
I thought this would be a good test for CA and there's not as much as I would have expected. Shot wide open at 80mm. If you zoom on the parts that are in focus like the bottom of the left leaf, it also looks pretty sharp. The bokeh is on the busy side but I like it.



I heard a plane fly over so I shot it wide open to see if the lens is sharp enough to identify it. And indeed, that was clearly a good old Pilatus PC-6. While I'm not able to read its registration number, looking at the paint, there's no doubt it's this one.
https://www.jetphotos.com/registration/HB-FKT



it looks like it's limited by my 24MP sensor actually



I can't wait to shoot more with it, so far I'm impressed!


PostPosted: Thu Nov 07, 2024 4:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Isco-Göttingen Westagon (Edixa Reflex) 50mm f2 (M42)
Steinheil München Cassar 45mm f2.8 (Braun M39)


PostPosted: Fri Nov 08, 2024 12:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
1955 LTM Canon 1.5/50mm (T4)

∅40mm - 13 Blades - MFD 100cm


PostPosted: Fri Nov 08, 2024 6:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Mir wrote:
1955 LTM Canon 1.5/50mm (T4)

∅40mm - 13 Blades - MFD 100cm


Interesting. Please post some pictures later!


PostPosted: Fri Nov 08, 2024 4:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Defective Petri FTE with Petri EE 2.8/35mm, 1.7/55mm and 4/200mm (seller Pic below). For CHF 10.--



And a Soligor 4.5/250mm, one of about half a dozen variants ... For CHF 5.--. Sadly I missed a recent Soligor 2.8/25mm which finally went fro CHF 5.-- as well ... Wink

S


PostPosted: Sat Nov 09, 2024 3:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
arrived this week:

Pentax SMC M 50mm f4 Macro
Pentax SMC M 100mm f4 Macro
Pentax SMC M 28mm f2.8
Pentax SMC A 35-105mm f3.5
Pentax DA 70 Limited
Pentax DA 18-55mm

and a GR III


PostPosted: Sat Nov 09, 2024 3:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Pentax ES with S-M-C Takumar 3.5/28mm, the rare 1:1 version of the Macro-Takumar 4/50mm, a S-M-C Takumar 2.8/105mm, and the Super-Takumar 3.5/135mm:



A Olympus OM1 along with the Zuiko OM 4/200mm:



A like-new Minolta SR-T 100 with an equally beautiful MC Rokkor 2/50mm:



Another Hexanon AR 2.5/135mm (like new as well, and for free):



And finally not a lens, but a lens hood with corresponding lens leaflet (Canon LTM lenses including lens sections of all Canon LTM lenses available at that time):



A few more images of "new" cameras will be published soon in the "SHOW US YOUR CAMERAS!" thread in the "Film SLR / TLR Cameras" section of MFlenses.com


S


PostPosted: Sat Nov 09, 2024 6:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
[quote="pepperberry farm"]
Lloydy wrote:





and next to the Minolta MC Rokkor-PF 55mm f1.4 (on the right):

Minolta 58/1.2 vs 58/1.4 by Pepperberry Farm, on Flickr


How much did you pay for the choco biscuits? Which auction site?


PostPosted: Sat Nov 09, 2024 6:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
München Hexatar 45mm f2.8 (M42) with Pentacon Hexacon camera
Petri C.C 135mm f3.8 EE Auto (Petri BR)


PostPosted: Sat Nov 09, 2024 7:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
stevemark wrote:
Pentax ES with S-M-C Takumar 3.5/28mm, the rare 1:1 version of the Macro-Takumar 4/50mm, a S-M-C Takumar 2.8/105mm, and the Super-Takumar 3.5/135mm:
...


! (interested in your results with 1:1!)


PostPosted: Sat Nov 09, 2024 8:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
[quote="visualopsins"]
stevemark wrote:
Pentax ES with S-M-C Takumar 3.5/28mm, the rare 1:1 version of the Macro-Takumar 4/50mm, a S-M-C Takumar 2.8/105mm, and the Super-Takumar 3.5/135mm:
! (interested in your results with 1:1!)


At infinity: No problem, I'll do that.

At closer distances there's always the problem of achieving a perfect parallelism between the (test) subject and the sensor.
Some years ago, when I did the test of 50mm macro lenses at about 1:10, I was using a large mirror: As soon as the center of the lens
would appear exactly in the center of the viewfinder image, the mirror was probably pretty much parallel to the sensor. And thus
the mirror surface could be used to place test target on it ... Sure, it's not the precision of an optical bank, but probably an acceptable
work-around procedure. Or do you have a better idea??

S

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PostPosted: Sat Nov 09, 2024 8:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
[quote="stevemark"]
visualopsins wrote:
stevemark wrote:
Pentax ES with S-M-C Takumar 3.5/28mm, the rare 1:1 version of the Macro-Takumar 4/50mm, a S-M-C Takumar 2.8/105mm, and the Super-Takumar 3.5/135mm:
! (interested in your results with 1:1!)


At infinity: No problem, I'll do that.

At closer distances there's always the problem of achieving a perfect parallelism between the (test) subject and the sensor. Some years ago, when I did the test of 50mm macro lenses at about 1:10, I was using a large mirror: As soon as the center of the lens would appear exactly in the center of the viewfinder image, the mirror was probably pretty much parallel to the sensor. And thus the mirror surface could be used to place test target on it ... Sure, it's not the precision of an optical bank, but probably an acceptable work-around procedure. Or do you have a better idea??

S


Point well taken! Sorry, no, I can't think of any easy way (now) to maintain parallelism at close distance besides optical bench and frame-filling target, like the Big Boys do. Smile


PostPosted: Sun Nov 10, 2024 10:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
[quote="stevemark"]
visualopsins wrote:
stevemark wrote:
Pentax ES with S-M-C Takumar 3.5/28mm, the rare 1:1 version of the Macro-Takumar 4/50mm, a S-M-C Takumar 2.8/105mm, and the Super-Takumar 3.5/135mm:
! (interested in your results with 1:1!)


At infinity: No problem, I'll do that.

At closer distances there's always the problem of achieving a perfect parallelism between the (test) subject and the sensor. Some years ago, when I did the test of 50mm macro lenses at about 1:10, I was using a large mirror: As soon as the center of the lens would appear exactly in the center of the viewfinder image, the mirror was probably pretty much parallel to the sensor. And thus the mirror surface could be used to place test target on it ... Sure, it's not the precision of an optical bank, but probably an acceptable work-around procedure. Or do you have a better idea??

S


Whenever I sell my premises the next owner will wonder what that small round mirror cemented in the center of a wall was meant for. He might observe a faint 10 meter long marking line on the pavement running perpendiculary from the center of that wall as well. Stacked fence parts cover up that mirror right now but it must be about 15 years ago I made that instrument.


PostPosted: Sun Nov 10, 2024 1:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
stevemark wrote:

At closer distances there's always the problem of achieving a perfect parallelism between the (test) subject and the sensor.
Some years ago, when I did the test of 50mm macro lenses at about 1:10, I was using a large mirror: As soon as the center of the lens
would appear exactly in the center of the viewfinder image, the mirror was probably pretty much parallel to the sensor. And thus
the mirror surface could be used to place test target on it ... Sure, it's not the precision of an optical bank, but probably an acceptable
work-around procedure. Or do you have a better idea??

S


Just checked the local ebay equivalent and found that there's an optical bank abvailable, used, in the direct neighbourhood Wink.
Price wouldn't be prohibitive, but where to place it ...? Well, Switzerland is really a wonderland. Who would have expected
such a precision tool to appear, used and for a fair price, somewhere on the countryside in central Switzerland?!? Not me ...

S


PostPosted: Sun Nov 10, 2024 7:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Today at the Hilversum photo fair:

- Soligor 5.6-8/120-600mm built by Kobori
- Sigma APO 5.6/180mm macro
- Vivitar Series1 2.5/105mm macro built by Kiron
sorry, i have no pictures of them yet

Both the macro's are like new. The big Soligor zoom does look a bit aged but feels like new.

Now hoping for better circumstances to give these lenses a first time out.


PostPosted: Sun Nov 10, 2024 7:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Ouwesok wrote:
Today at the Hilversum photo fair:

- Soligor 5.6-8/120-600mm built by Kobori
- Sigma APO 5.6/180mm macro
- Vivitar Series1 2.5/105mm macro built by Kiron
sorry, i have no pictures of them yet

Both the macro's are like new. The big Soligor zoom does look a bit aged but feels like new.

Now hoping for better circumstances to give these lenses a first time out.


Nice stuff! Congrats! Like 1 Like 1 Congrats


PostPosted: Sun Nov 10, 2024 7:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
stevemark wrote:
stevemark wrote:

At closer distances there's always the problem of achieving a perfect parallelism between the (test) subject and the sensor.
Some years ago, when I did the test of 50mm macro lenses at about 1:10, I was using a large mirror: As soon as the center of the lens
would appear exactly in the center of the viewfinder image, the mirror was probably pretty much parallel to the sensor. And thus
the mirror surface could be used to place test target on it ... Sure, it's not the precision of an optical bank, but probably an acceptable
work-around procedure. Or do you have a better idea??

S


Just checked the local ebay equivalent and found that there's an optical bank abvailable, used, in the direct neighbourhood Wink.
Price wouldn't be prohibitive, but where to place it ...? Well, Switzerland is really a wonderland. Who would have expected
such a precision tool to appear, used and for a fair price, somewhere on the countryside in central Switzerland?!? Not me ...

S


WOW!!!


PostPosted: Mon Nov 11, 2024 5:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
DrBB wrote:
Isco-Göttingen Westagon (Edixa Reflex) 50mm f2 (M42)
Steinheil München Cassar 45mm f2.8 (Braun M39)


Arrived today, near-perfect condition except very stiff helicoids



PostPosted: Thu Nov 14, 2024 8:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
SMC Pentax 45-125mm f/4.
I like the images I’ve seen of this lens, and I think it’s focal range is actually quite practical. This lens + 1 wide angle of choice is all I need on most of my trips.
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