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simple.joy
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Posted: Fri Dec 15, 2023 9:37 pm Post subject: |
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simple.joy wrote:
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Hope you guys had interesting and fun year (lens-wise) |
Not too many, but a few nice/interesting ones:
Boyer APO Saphir 9/75mm
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Very nice! Have you tried it yet? _________________ ---
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DrBB
Joined: 26 Mar 2014 Posts: 117 Location: Croatia
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Posted: Fri Dec 15, 2023 10:09 pm Post subject: |
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DrBB wrote:
stevemark wrote: |
DrBB wrote: |
Hope you guys had interesting and fun year (lens-wise) |
Not too many, but a few nice/interesting ones:
Boyer APO Saphir 9/75mm
Konica AR 4/21mm "rubber grip"
Mamiya Sekor E 4/300mm
Minolta W Rokkor 4.5/21mm
Minolta AF 2.8/28-70mm G
Miranda Auto 2.8/35mm
Miranda Auto E 1.4/50mm (7L)
Nikkor AiS 2.8/105mm Micro
Yashica ML 3.5/28-35mm
Yashica ML 5.6/300mm "non-compact"
Zeiss HFT Planar 1.4/50mm
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Lol, yours 3 lenses from this list are worth more than 100 mine |
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stevemark
Joined: 29 Apr 2011 Posts: 4085 Location: Switzerland
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Posted: Fri Dec 15, 2023 11:13 pm Post subject: |
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stevemark wrote:
simple.joy wrote: |
stevemark wrote: |
DrBB wrote: |
Hope you guys had interesting and fun year (lens-wise) |
Not too many, but a few nice/interesting ones:
Boyer APO Saphir 9/75mm
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Very nice! Have you tried it yet? |
Not yet, to be honest - it has an uncommon fine thread (abut 24mm in diameter, slightly less than an inch).
Roughly estimated it might be something like 24x0.5mm.
I haven't yet been able to adapt it; a quick search on the internet didn't result in anything meaningful.
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DrBB
Joined: 26 Mar 2014 Posts: 117 Location: Croatia
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Posted: Sat Dec 16, 2023 8:43 am Post subject: |
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DrBB wrote:
stevemark wrote: |
simple.joy wrote: |
stevemark wrote: |
DrBB wrote: |
Hope you guys had interesting and fun year (lens-wise) |
Not too many, but a few nice/interesting ones:
Boyer APO Saphir 9/75mm
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Very nice! Have you tried it yet? |
Not yet, to be honest - it has an uncommon fine thread (abut 24mm in diameter, slightly less than an inch).
Roughly estimated it might be something like 24x0.5mm.
I haven't yet been able to adapt it; a quick search on the internet didn't result in anything meaningful.
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I found this guys to be helpful, unfortunately, they are not cheap (10-15eur) and I found them only on few aliexpress sellers
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D. P.
Joined: 26 Apr 2015 Posts: 165 Location: Mongolia / China
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Posted: Sat Dec 16, 2023 2:05 pm Post subject: |
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DigiChromeEd
Joined: 29 Dec 2009 Posts: 3462 Location: Northern Ireland
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Posted: Sat Dec 16, 2023 4:02 pm Post subject: |
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DigiChromeEd wrote:
I've always liked any Tamron lenses I've owned and purely by chance I found these two SP models - both new, unused and in mint condition. The 24-48mm also has the extremely hard to find lens hood!
*Photos courtesy of seller* _________________ "I've got a Nikon camera, I like to take a photograph" - Paul Simon |
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stevemark
Joined: 29 Apr 2011 Posts: 4085 Location: Switzerland
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Posted: Sat Dec 16, 2023 5:36 pm Post subject: |
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stevemark wrote:
DrBB wrote: |
I found this guys to be helpful, unfortunately, they are not cheap (10-15eur) and I found them only on few aliexpress sellers
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Thank you for that information! The Boyer 9/75mm thread might be something as 23.5x0.5mm, but I'm not entirely sure.
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Wow - that's a beauty! While I have the silver RE 3.5/58mm Macro, I've never the black version ...!
DigiChromeEd wrote: |
I've always liked any Tamron lenses I've owned and purely by chance I found these two SP models - both new, unused and in mint condition. The 24-48mm also has the extremely hard to find lens hood!
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That sounds good . Both lenses are pretty good, the 24-48mm is nearly as good as the Canon nFD 3.5/20-35mm (but of course limited at the wide side). The SP 3.5/70-210 is a good zoom as well, but in my experience ("landscape testing mode") not as good as the best OEM telezooms from around 1980-1985. But pretty close ... I've been playing with a few other SP zooms during the last days, and by coincidence I got a Tamron Adaptall-2 2.5/135mm today. It has a nice and well made barrel, plus focusing goes down to 1.2m.
Not tested yet
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Doc Sharptail
Joined: 23 Nov 2020 Posts: 1216 Location: Winnipeg Canada
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Posted: Sat Dec 16, 2023 7:38 pm Post subject: |
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Doc Sharptail wrote:
stevemark wrote: |
I got a Tamron Adaptall-2 2.5/135mm today. It has a nice and well made barrel, plus focusing goes down to 1.2m.
Not tested yet
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Interesting! Will watch for what you find with it.
-D.S. _________________
D-810, F2, FTN.
35mm f2 O.C. nikkor
50 f2 H nikkor, 50 f 1.4 AI-s, 135 f3.5 Q,
50 f2 K nikkor 2x, 28-85mm f3.5-4.5 A/I-s, 35-105 3.5-4.5 A/I-s, 200mm f4 Micro A/I, partial list.
"Ain't no half-way" -S.R.V.
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Doc Sharptail
Joined: 23 Nov 2020 Posts: 1216 Location: Winnipeg Canada
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Posted: Sat Dec 16, 2023 7:41 pm Post subject: |
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Doc Sharptail wrote:
DigiChromeEd wrote: |
I've always liked any Tamron lenses I've owned and purely by chance I found these two SP models - both new, unused and in mint condition. The 24-48mm also has the extremely hard to find lens hood! |
The 19-AH has generally positive reviews. Post up some images when you have them...
-D.S. _________________
D-810, F2, FTN.
35mm f2 O.C. nikkor
50 f2 H nikkor, 50 f 1.4 AI-s, 135 f3.5 Q,
50 f2 K nikkor 2x, 28-85mm f3.5-4.5 A/I-s, 35-105 3.5-4.5 A/I-s, 200mm f4 Micro A/I, partial list.
"Ain't no half-way" -S.R.V.
"Oh Yeah... Alright" -Paul Simon |
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stevemark
Joined: 29 Apr 2011 Posts: 4085 Location: Switzerland
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Posted: Sat Dec 16, 2023 8:09 pm Post subject: |
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stevemark wrote:
Doc Sharptail wrote: |
stevemark wrote: |
I got a Tamron Adaptall-2 2.5/135mm today. It has a nice and well made barrel, plus focusing goes down to 1.2m.
Not tested yet
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Interesting! Will watch for what you find with it.
-D.S. |
At 530 g / 18.7 oz it certainly isn't a lightweight lens. Not as heavy as the Konica AR 2.5/135mm (655g), but almost exactly as much as the Minolta MC/MD 2.8/135mm [4/4]. Canon new FD and Minolta MD-III 2.8/135mm are much lighter.
S _________________ www.artaphot.ch |
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visualopsins
Joined: 05 Mar 2009 Posts: 11061 Location: California
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Posted: Sat Dec 16, 2023 8:27 pm Post subject: |
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visualopsins wrote:
stevemark wrote: |
Doc Sharptail wrote: |
stevemark wrote: |
I got a Tamron Adaptall-2 2.5/135mm today. It has a nice and well made barrel, plus focusing goes down to 1.2m.
Not tested yet
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Interesting! Will watch for what you find with it.
-D.S. |
At 530 g / 18.7 oz it certainly isn't a lightweight lens. Not as heavy as the Konica AR 2.5/135mm (655g), but almost exactly as much as the Minolta MC/MD 2.8/135mm [4/4]. Canon new FD and Minolta MD-III 2.8/135mm are much lighter.
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Looking forward to results S! http://adaptall-2.com/lenses/03B.html _________________ ☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮ like attracts like! ☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮
Cameras: Sony ILCE-7RM2, Spotmatics II, F, and ESII, Nikon P4
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M42 Asahi Optical Co., Takumar 1:4 f=35mm, 1:2 f=58mm (Sonnar), 1:2.4 f=58mm (Heliar), 1:2.2 f=55mm (Gaussian), 1:2.8 f=105mm (Model I), 1:2.8/105 (Model II), 1:5.6/200, Tele-Takumar 1:5.6/200, 1:6.3/300, Macro-Takumar 1:4/50, Auto-Takumar 1:2.3 f=35, 1:1.8 f=55mm, 1:2.2 f=55mm, Super-TAKUMAR 1:3.5/28 (fat), 1:2/35 (Fat), 1:1.4/50 (8-element), Super-Multi-Coated Fisheye-TAKUMAR 1:4/17, Super-Multi-Coated TAKUMAR 1:4.5/20, 1:3.5/24, 1:3.5/28, 1:2/35, 1:3.5/35, 1:1.8/85, 1:1.9/85 1:2.8/105, 1:3.5/135, 1:2.5/135 (II), 1:4/150, 1:4/200, 1:4/300, 1:4.5/500, Super-Multi-Coated Macro-TAKUMAR 1:4/50, 1:4/100, Super-Multi-Coated Bellows-TAKUMAR 1:4/100, SMC TAKUMAR 1:1.4/50, 1:1.8/55
M42 Carl Zeiss Jena Flektogon 2.4/35
Contax Carl Zeiss Vario-Sonnar T* 28-70mm F3.5-4.5
Pentax K-mount SMC PENTAX-A ZOOM 1:3.5 35~105mm, SMC PENTAX ZOOM 1:4 45~125mm
Nikon Micro-NIKKOR-P-C Auto 1:3.5 f=55mm, NIKKOR-P Auto 105mm f/2.5 Pre-AI (Sonnar), Micro-NIKKOR 105mm 1:4 AI, NIKKOR AI-S 35-135mm f/3,5-4,5
Tamron SP 17mm f/3.5 (51B), Tamron SP 17mm f/3.5 (151B), SP 500mm f/8 (55BB), SP 70-210mm f/3.5 (19AH)
Vivitar 100mm 1:2.8 MC 1:1 Macro Telephoto (Kiron)
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Alun Thomas
Joined: 20 Aug 2018 Posts: 662 Location: New Zealand
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Posted: Sat Dec 16, 2023 11:35 pm Post subject: |
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Alun Thomas wrote:
I bought this for a bit less than the going rate, described as having a few issues. The aperture ring was clickless and quite loose. The aperture was also slow to return. There is a small ring to tighten right at the mount to retain the aperture ring, the clicks also returned. The slow return was solved by a little lubricant on the PAD actuator. The lens also need a recalibration for infinity focus, which is a simple procedure on this lens. The glass is in good condition.
The lens is the first SLR 24mm lens released, its main designer left Carl Zeiss Jena in East Germany to work at Isco in West Germany. The lens vignettes noticeably. At F8, for a late 1950's lens, the IQ is decent, the corner resolution is not perfect, but quite a lot better than expected. |
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calvin83
Joined: 12 Apr 2009 Posts: 7584 Location: Hong Kong
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Posted: Sun Dec 17, 2023 12:40 am Post subject: |
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calvin83 wrote:
Alun Thomas wrote: |
I bought this for a bit less than the going rate, described as having a few issues. The aperture ring was clickless and quite loose. The aperture was also slow to return. There is a small ring to tighten right at the mount to retain the aperture ring, the clicks also returned. The slow return was solved by a little lubricant on the PAD actuator. The lens also need a recalibration for infinity focus, which is a simple procedure on this lens. The glass is in good condition.
The lens is the first SLR 24mm lens released, its main designer left Carl Zeiss Jena in East Germany to work at Isco in West Germany. The lens vignettes noticeably. At F8, for a late 1950's lens, the IQ is decent, the corner resolution is not perfect, but quite a lot better than expected. |
I have a non-working one as I break one of the rear element when I tried to clean the lens. _________________ The best lens is the one you have with you.
https://lensfever.com/
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D. P.
Joined: 26 Apr 2015 Posts: 165 Location: Mongolia / China
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Posted: Sun Dec 17, 2023 5:24 am Post subject: |
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D. P. wrote:
stevemark wrote: |
Wow - that's a beauty! While I have the silver RE 3.5/58mm Macro, I've never the black version ...!
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Thank you! I was lucky to find a copy in mint condition, like new.
In addition, the seller had an RE GN Topcor M 50mm f/1.4, but I did not buy it. Radioactivity, grease issues, strange bokeh, and the $720 price are just not for me. |
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calvin83
Joined: 12 Apr 2009 Posts: 7584 Location: Hong Kong
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Posted: Sun Dec 17, 2023 6:40 am Post subject: |
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calvin83 wrote:
D. P. wrote: |
stevemark wrote: |
Wow - that's a beauty! While I have the silver RE 3.5/58mm Macro, I've never the black version ...!
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Thank you! I was lucky to find a copy in mint condition, like new.
In addition, the seller had an RE GN Topcor M 50mm f/1.4, but I did not buy it. Radioactivity, grease issues, strange bokeh, and the $720 price are just not for me. |
You can buy a Topcor 85 1.8 for less.
Click here to see on Ebay _________________ The best lens is the one you have with you.
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caspert79
Joined: 31 Oct 2010 Posts: 3225 Location: The Netherlands
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Posted: Sun Dec 17, 2023 7:08 am Post subject: |
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caspert79 wrote:
Alun Thomas wrote: |
I bought this for a bit less than the going rate, described as having a few issues. The aperture ring was clickless and quite loose. The aperture was also slow to return. There is a small ring to tighten right at the mount to retain the aperture ring, the clicks also returned. The slow return was solved by a little lubricant on the PAD actuator. The lens also need a recalibration for infinity focus, which is a simple procedure on this lens. The glass is in good condition.
The lens is the first SLR 24mm lens released, its main designer left Carl Zeiss Jena in East Germany to work at Isco in West Germany. The lens vignettes noticeably. At F8, for a late 1950's lens, the IQ is decent, the corner resolution is not perfect, but quite a lot better than expected. |
I would buy that for the looks only 👠_________________ For Sale:
Steinheil Auto D Tele Quinar 135mm f/2.8 (Exa)
ISCO Isconar 100mm f/4 (Exa)
Steinheil Cassarit 50mm f/2.8 M39 (Paxette)
I'm always interested in trading lenses! |
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LittleAlex
Joined: 27 Nov 2008 Posts: 1748 Location: L'vov (Western Ukraine)
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Posted: Sun Dec 17, 2023 7:29 am Post subject: |
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LittleAlex wrote:
Alun Thomas wrote: |
The lens is the first SLR 24mm lens released, its main designer left Carl Zeiss Jena in East Germany to work at Isco in West Germany. The lens vignettes noticeably. At F8, for a late 1950's lens, the IQ is decent, the corner resolution is not perfect, but quite a lot better than expected. |
I own the same lens in plastic, with MC for M42. It was certain disappointment for me. _________________ "Sharpness is a bourgeois concept" - © H. Cartier Bresson |
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D. P.
Joined: 26 Apr 2015 Posts: 165 Location: Mongolia / China
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Posted: Sun Dec 17, 2023 8:35 am Post subject: |
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D. P. wrote:
I know.
But I'm not a fan of either RE 85/1.8 or RE 58/1.8 or RE GN 50/1.4. There's no magic in these lenses. Unlike them, RE 58/3.5 Macro is magical.
But I remember your old photo series (parrots and flowers) with Topcor 85/1.8 - excellent shots! |
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calvin83
Joined: 12 Apr 2009 Posts: 7584 Location: Hong Kong
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Posted: Sun Dec 17, 2023 9:35 am Post subject: |
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calvin83 wrote:
D. P. wrote: |
I know.
But I'm not a fan of either RE 85/1.8 or RE 58/1.8 or RE GN 50/1.4. There's no magic in these lenses. Unlike them, RE 58/3.5 Macro is magical. |
It seems we have opposite view. I sold my black 58/3.5 Macro soon after I tried it.
The 85/1.8 deserve a better reputation as it is a really good lens compare to other fast Japanese 85mm in the early 70s. _________________ The best lens is the one you have with you.
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LittleAlex
Joined: 27 Nov 2008 Posts: 1748 Location: L'vov (Western Ukraine)
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Posted: Sun Dec 17, 2023 9:45 am Post subject: |
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LittleAlex wrote:
calvin83 wrote: |
It seems we have opposite view. |
De gustibus поп est disputandum! (Ñ) _________________ "Sharpness is a bourgeois concept" - © H. Cartier Bresson |
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D. P.
Joined: 26 Apr 2015 Posts: 165 Location: Mongolia / China
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Posted: Sun Dec 17, 2023 9:50 am Post subject: |
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D. P. wrote:
calvin83 wrote: |
It seems we have opposite view. I sold my black 58/3.5 Macro soon after I tried it. |
I've tried about 50 macro lenses over the past ten years. Some were amazing, some were mediocre. That said, I can think of very few lenses that fit my “good macro†philosophy. Perhaps Zeiss Macro-Prakticar 55/2.8... Something else... For the last six months, my main working tool has been Sigma AF 70mm F/2.8 DG Macro Art. This is an amazing lens, much better than the Topcor in every way. But the picture is too flawless, too perfect. And I want imperfection. That's why I really liked Topcor. |
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calvin83
Joined: 12 Apr 2009 Posts: 7584 Location: Hong Kong
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Posted: Sun Dec 17, 2023 9:52 am Post subject: |
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calvin83 wrote:
LittleAlex wrote: |
calvin83 wrote: |
It seems we have opposite view. |
De gustibus поп est disputandum! (Ñ) |
_________________ The best lens is the one you have with you.
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LittleAlex
Joined: 27 Nov 2008 Posts: 1748 Location: L'vov (Western Ukraine)
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Posted: Sun Dec 17, 2023 10:20 am Post subject: |
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LittleAlex wrote:
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... Something else... |
KONICA MACRO-HEXANON 105mm F4 for example.
or Micro-Nikkor 60mm f/2.8 (however "too perfect" maybe, of course)
_________________ "Sharpness is a bourgeois concept" - © H. Cartier Bresson |
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caspert79
Joined: 31 Oct 2010 Posts: 3225 Location: The Netherlands
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Posted: Sun Dec 17, 2023 10:25 am Post subject: |
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caspert79 wrote:
D. P. wrote: |
calvin83 wrote: |
It seems we have opposite view. I sold my black 58/3.5 Macro soon after I tried it. |
I've tried about 50 macro lenses over the past ten years. Some were amazing, some were mediocre. That said, I can think of very few lenses that fit my “good macro†philosophy. Perhaps Zeiss Macro-Prakticar 55/2.8... Something else... For the last six months, my main working tool has been Sigma AF 70mm F/2.8 DG Macro Art. This is an amazing lens, much better than the Topcor in every way. But the picture is too flawless, too perfect. And I want imperfection. That's why I really liked Topcor. |
I have no experience with the Topcor. My favourite macro in this class however, is the Yashica ML 55/2.8 macro. It is amazingly sharp from wide open, but it has plenty of imperfections as well.
Picture taken wide open, no sharpening applied. Please click to watch at 100%, the amount of detail is quite amazing IMO:
YashicaML5528macro by devoscasper, on Flickr
It still has the right amount of vintage imperfections though:
YashicaML5528macro_7 by devoscasper, on Flickr _________________ For Sale:
Steinheil Auto D Tele Quinar 135mm f/2.8 (Exa)
ISCO Isconar 100mm f/4 (Exa)
Steinheil Cassarit 50mm f/2.8 M39 (Paxette)
I'm always interested in trading lenses! |
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D. P.
Joined: 26 Apr 2015 Posts: 165 Location: Mongolia / China
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Posted: Sun Dec 17, 2023 10:42 am Post subject: |
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D. P. wrote:
caspert79 wrote: |
My favourite macro in this class however, is the Yashica ML 55/2.8 macro. It is amazingly sharp from wide open, but it has plenty of imperfections as well. |
I have this lens, I'm now selling it because I couldn't bring myself to love it.
It has excellent ergonomics, better than Topcor. |
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