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Voigtländer 12mm 5.6 for L39 screw-mount. Came with it's (enormous) original finder... and a Bessa L was attached to it too 
I've had the 15mm before but was a bit disappointed by it's performance on the Sony. It's really good on film, but then my only L39 camera was a really beat up Fed2 so it didn't see much use.
The 12mm is not perfect either, it has horrendous vignetting but it's insane angle of view makes up for the extra post-processing time.
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Unfortunately I think this might be too wide to try the PCX filter trick to improve performance
https://phillipreeve.net/blog/rangefinder-wide-angle-lenses-on-a7-cameras-problems-and-solutions/#Solution_1_Clever_positioning_of_focus_plane
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Another one for my little komine collection. Very nice actually, minty, boxed.
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I'm not a Canon collector but the price for this lens on a local auction site was too good to let pass. |
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calvin83
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I'm not a Canon collector but the price for this lens on a local auction site was too good to let pass. |
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Super Multi Coated Takumar 135mm f3.5
Had a quick comparison with my lighter Pentax M 135mm f3.5 last night and the Pentax seemed sharper, but with more aberrations. Need to do a proper battle as I only want to keep one.  |
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This will be an interesting one- an f2.9 Pentac (not written on the lens) with a clearly custom housing job, and what looks like an M42-C(?) adapter. It was left in a Yashica 200mm box, hence the auction title:
I'm not sure if the Pentac threads came in silver, or if they were sprayed with the barrel itself:
And I'm wondering where the adjustable aperture is, or if it was even with this 'version' that wasn't labelled Pentac. Maybe used for a projection purpose, then adapted to a camera? We will see.
And on second thoughts, the box might be worth the price of admission too - 200mm f/4:
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caspert79
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Super Multi Coated Takumar 135mm f3.5
Had a quick comparison with my lighter Pentax M 135mm f3.5 last night and the Pentax seemed sharper, but with more aberrations. Need to do a proper battle as I only want to keep one. |
I find the Takumar actually a surprisingly good lens. Check out a test I did earlier: http://forum.mflenses.com/leica-elmar-135mm-f-4-compared-with-others-t83362.html
At infinity it’s also pretty good. And build quality is 10/10.
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This will be an interesting one- an f2.9 Pentac (not written on the lens) with a clearly custom housing job, and what looks like an M42-C(?) adapter. It was left in a Yashica 200mm box, hence the auction title:
I'm not sure if the Pentac threads came in silver, or if they were sprayed with the barrel itself:
And I'm wondering where the adjustable aperture is, or if it was even with this 'version' that wasn't labelled Pentac. Maybe used for a projection purpose, then adapted to a camera? We will see.
And on second thoughts, the box might be worth the price of admission too - 200mm f/4:
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Interesting find. There is a topic: http://forum.mflenses.com/dallmeyer-london-pentac-f-29-patent--4-1-4inch-t46036.html Good thing you knew what you were looking at .
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Didn't include the shot which shows the aperture labelled sorry- otherwise you're just looking at an 8" lens:
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Super Multi Coated Takumar 135mm f3.5
Had a quick comparison with my lighter Pentax M 135mm f3.5 last night and the Pentax seemed sharper, but with more aberrations. Need to do a proper battle as I only want to keep one. |
I find the Takumar actually a surprisingly good lens. Check out a test I did earlier: http://forum.mflenses.com/leica-elmar-135mm-f-4-compared-with-others-t83362.html
At infinity it’s also pretty good. And build quality is 10/10. |
Mine isn't great. Selling it. But the Pentax is riddled with CA, so will replace that with something else. Hearing yours is so good makes me want to try another copy of the Takumar. ðŸ‘🙂 |
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W-komura 35mm 2.5 Just a bit hazy with bright light shining through, not visible otherwise
 Sankyo Kohki W-Komura 25mm 1:2.5 by The lens profile, on Flickr
 Sankyo Kohki W-Komura 25mm 1:2.5 by The lens profile, on Flickr
SMC Pentax-A Zoom 35-210mm 1:3.5-4.5 Not for sale very often so I snapped it up. A lot of fungus somewhere behind the aperture. Hopefully I can get to it just unscrewing the rear element so I don't mess up any of the aperture mechanics.
 SMC Pentax-A Zoom 35-210mm F3.5-4.5 by The lens profile, on Flickr
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eggplant
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Typo on the 35mm f2.5- although a 25mm f2.5 of that vintage would be pretty interesting!
I didn't even know Pentax participated in that class of 35-200/210.
It is interesting, we also got a 35-210mm f3.5-4.2 Adaptall-2 lens.
Were these made concurrently with the third party 28-200/210 options? If so, why didn't they try for a wider zoom range?
I do already know the answer in part- the size, rather than optical difficulty, although 28 is fairly different to 35. I've read articles from Ellis Betensky when he still worked at Vivitar detailing 28-200 lenses at the start of the 1980s. And one of Tamron's anniversary pages detailing their superzoom history noted size as being a key barrier to introducing a 28-200. Their first version was alot smaller than the Samyang 28-200, for instance, and it wasn't just a matter of smaller aperture.
I would be very curious to know how the aperture of this Pentax declines throughout the zoom range. I think a piece comparing all the 35-200/210 would be valuable.
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Typo on the 35mm f2.5- although a 25mm f2.5 of that vintage would be pretty interesting!
I didn't even know Pentax participated in that class of 35-200/210.
It is interesting, we also got a 35-210mm f3.5-4.2 Adaptall-2 lens.
Were these made concurrently with the third party 28-200/210 options? If so, why didn't they try for a wider zoom range?
I do already know the answer in part- the size, rather than optical difficulty, although 28 is fairly different to 35. I've read articles from Ellis Betensky when he still worked at Vivitar detailing 28-200 lenses at the start of the 1980s. And one of Tamron's anniversary pages detailing their superzoom history noted size as being a key barrier to introducing a 28-200. Their first version was alot smaller than the Samyang 28-200, for instance, and it wasn't just a matter of smaller aperture.
I would be very curious to know how the aperture of this Pentax declines throughout the zoom range. I think a piece comparing all the 35-200/210 would be valuable. |
That could be the problem. Probably combined with IQ standards. The SMC Pentax-A Zoom 28-135mm 1:4 is the heaviest zoom of the A series even though there being this 35-210 and the 70-210mm 1:4. The 35-105 3.5 weighs more than 200 grams less and has better IQ. Quality over range. It will first have to be cleaned for any decent comparison. Contrast is taking a hit from the fungus and metering isn't very accurate.
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Nice.
What are the mount rotation numbers "7", "8" etc? Are they an indication for maximum allowable shift (in mm) without vignetting when rotated against those markings?
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NikonD! Looks like fun.
How's that FTZ adapter? And is that a custom bottom plate -- I could use similar for A7RII with LM-EA7? Thanks!
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Tamron SP 17mm f/3.5 (51B), Tamron SP 17mm f/3.5 (151B), SP 500mm f/8 (55BB), SP 70-210mm f/3.5 (19AH)
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Nice.
What are the mount rotation numbers "7", "8" etc? Are they an indication for maximum allowable shift (in mm) without vignetting when rotated against those markings? |
The numbers are a mystery to me, I have yet to find out the meaning...
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NikonD! Looks like fun.
How's that FTZ adapter? And is that a custom bottom plate -- I could use similar for A7RII with LM-EA7? Thanks! |
FTZ is nice, works as intended. Bottom plate is from aliexpress, I use it as an additional grip for my pinky finger (I have big hands) |
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Canon EF 100/2 (and K&F AF adapter for Sony).
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visualopsins
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| Canon EF 100/2 (and K&F AF adapter for Sony). |
Please let us know how is the adapter! Can't wait to see your photos...
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M42 Asahi Optical Co., Takumar 1:4 f=35mm, 1:2 f=58mm (Sonnar), 1:2.4 f=58mm (Heliar), 1:2.2 f=55mm (Gaussian), 1:2.8 f=105mm (Model I), 1:2.8/105 (Model II), 1:5.6/200, Tele-Takumar 1:5.6/200, 1:6.3/300, Macro-Takumar 1:4/50, Auto-Takumar 1:2.3 f=35, 1:1.8 f=55mm, 1:2.2 f=55mm, Super-TAKUMAR 1:3.5/28 (fat), 1:2/35 (Fat), 1:1.4/50 (8-element), Super-Multi-Coated Fisheye-TAKUMAR 1:4/17, Super-Multi-Coated TAKUMAR 1:4.5/20, 1:3.5/24, 1:3.5/28, 1:2/35, 1:3.5/35, 1:1.8/85, 1:1.9/85 1:2.8/105, 1:3.5/135, 1:2.5/135 (II), 1:4/150, 1:4/200, 1:4/300, 1:4.5/500, Super-Multi-Coated Macro-TAKUMAR 1:4/50, 1:4/100, Super-Multi-Coated Bellows-TAKUMAR 1:4/100, SMC TAKUMAR 1:1.4/50, 1:1.8/55
M42 Carl Zeiss Jena Flektogon 2.4/35
Contax Carl Zeiss Vario-Sonnar T* 28-70mm F3.5-4.5
Pentax K-mount SMC PENTAX-A ZOOM 1:3.5 35~105mm, SMC PENTAX ZOOM 1:4 45~125mm
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Tamron SP 17mm f/3.5 (51B), Tamron SP 17mm f/3.5 (151B), SP 500mm f/8 (55BB), SP 70-210mm f/3.5 (19AH)
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| Canon EF 100/2 (and K&F AF adapter for Sony). |
Please let us know how is the adapter! Can't wait to see your photos... |
I'm actually on the wrong forum then with this lens 🤔
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Also bought a Petri 28mm f/2 (Cosinon?). First impressions are good.
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Bit of a risk, and was an auction listed under Camera Lenses. Description said
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Belonged to my late Grandad and selling on behalf of my Grandmother
Not been tested
There are some marks and rubs to the side of the Lenses
All glass on the Lenses do have tiny marks and flecks of dust- I have not attempted to clean |
         
If I get lucky with this, it would be very nice. Otherwise I can still break even easily.
These are all thumbnails, I tried posting it in one row but it's displayed as an awkward single column. Oh well- click to get full resolution.
We have:
Tamron Adaptall-2 60-300mm f3.8-5.4
Tamron Adaptall-2 28-70mm f3.5-4.5
Sigma Super-Wide II 24mm f/2.8 (FD Mount)
Helios 44-2 58mm f/2 (M42)
Tokina RMC 300mm f5.6 (MD mount?)
2x Adaptall-2 Nikon F mount AI adapters
All matching front caps (aside from Helios)
62mm screw in hood for the Tamron
I also keep landing these quality enlarger lenses for £10. This was listed under wrong category though ('SLR Cameras'). I didn't realise but the Komuranon E and S versions are different. I have the former so it will be interesting to compare.
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I got this lens with Sigma mc-11. Very nice results on Sony a73. I even like it slightLy better than Nikon 105/1.4. |
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Bit of a risk, and was an auction listed under Camera Lenses. Description said
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Belonged to my late Grandad and selling on behalf of my Grandmother
Not been tested
There are some marks and rubs to the side of the Lenses
All glass on the Lenses do have tiny marks and flecks of dust- I have not attempted to clean |
If I get lucky with this, it would be very nice. Otherwise I can still break even easily.
These are all thumbnails, I tried posting it in one row but it's displayed as an awkward single column. Oh well- click to get full resolution.
We have:
Tamron Adaptall-2 60-300mm f3.8-5.4
Tamron Adaptall-2 28-70mm f3.5-4.5
Sigma Super-Wide II 24mm f/2.8 (FD Mount)
Helios 44-2 58mm f/2 (M42)
Tokina RMC 300mm f5.6 (MD mount?)
2x Adaptall-2 Nikon F mount AI adapters
All matching front caps (aside from Helios)
62mm screw in hood for the Tamron
I also keep landing these quality enlarger lenses for £10. This was listed under wrong category though ('SLR Cameras'). I didn't realise but the Komuranon E and S versions are different. I have the former so it will be interesting to compare. |
Good catch, most of those are worth the price of the lot alone
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| Super Multi Coated Takumar 135mm f3.5...Mine isn't great. Selling it. But the Pentax is riddled with CA, so will replace that with something else. Hearing yours is so good makes me want to try another copy of the Takumar. ðŸ‘🙂 |
I bought one of these (the Super-Multi-Coated version) and it had something wrong with it because the images were very blurry. It turned out the second element was improperly seated inside the body (it's easy to see how this could happen if you've ever taken the lens apart and put it back together again).
I doubt it came that way from the factory, but there weren't any marks on the lens, so who knows?
Anyway, after I took out the first two elements, cleaned them, and put them back properly, the performance was excellent, particularly considering how inexpensive these are.
BTW, in case anyone is interested, the tolerances for the second element are extremely tight. If you seat it incorrectly, it will get stuck in place and be very difficult to remove again. I found the best way by far was to turn the body upside down and insert the element up from below. |
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