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Antoine
Joined: 08 Jan 2016 Posts: 298 Location: London
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Posted: Tue Jun 01, 2021 1:14 pm Post subject: |
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Antoine wrote:
Yes, living in London and Provence ... I was in Rue Jacoulet. _________________ Antoine
Sony A6000 APS-C and Sony A7 Rii
Minolta Fisheye MD Rokkor 7.5 mm f4, Fisheye MD 16 f2.8 MD R 17mm f4, MD R 20mm f2.8, MC VFC & MDIII 24mm f2.8, MD 28mm f2.0 &3.5, MD II 35mm 1.8, MD 45mm f2.0, MD 50mm f 1.2 & MD I f1.4, MC PG 58mm 1.2, MD 85mm f2.0, MD R 85mm f2.8 Varisoft, MC 85mm f1.7 MD R 100mm f2.5, MD R 100mm f4.0 macro, MD III 135mm f2.8, MD R 200mm f2.8 & 4.0, RF 250mm f5.6, MD 300mm f4.5, MD APO 400 mm f5.6, RF 500mm f8.0, RF 800mm f8.0 *2 300-s and 300-l
100 mm f4 macro bellows (5/4)
Vivitar 17mm f3.5, Elicar 300mm mirror f5.6, Zhongi turbo ii
Sigma 16mm f 2.8 fish eye
Zooms:24-50 mm f4, 35-70 mm f3.5 macro, 28-85mm f3.5-4.5, 50-135 f 3.5, 70-210 f4 and MD APO 100-500 mm f8 |
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stevemark
Joined: 29 Apr 2011 Posts: 4049 Location: Switzerland
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Posted: Tue Jun 01, 2021 8:24 pm Post subject: |
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stevemark wrote:
Going through old data I just found a test I've not published yet. Those are the lenses:
Canon nFD 2.8/28mm
Mamiya Sekor SX 2.8/28mm
Mamiya Sekor CS 2.8/28mm (same optics as Sekor E and Sekor EF)
Minolta MD-II 2.8/28mm [7/7] (same optics as MC-X, MD-I and MD-III [7/7]
Minolta MD-III 2.8/28mm [5/5] (same optics as Minolta AF 2.8/28mm)
Nikkor Ai 2.8/28mm
Pentacon Auto 2.8/29mm Multi Coated (M42)
Pentax-M 2.8/28mm SMC
Tokina RMC 2.8/28mm
Topcon Topcor RE 2.8/28mm
Yashica ML 2.8/28mm [7/6]
I hope I'll have time to publish it tomorrow.
S _________________ www.artaphot.ch |
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Oldhand
Joined: 01 Apr 2013 Posts: 6005 Location: Mid North Coast NSW - Australia
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Posted: Tue Jun 01, 2021 10:35 pm Post subject: |
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Oldhand wrote:
stevemark wrote: |
Going through old data I just found a test I've not published yet. Those are the lenses:
Canon nFD 2.8/28mm
Mamiya Sekor SX 2.8/28mm
Mamiya Sekor CS 2.8/28mm (same optics as Sekor E and Sekor EF)
Minolta MD-II 2.8/28mm [7/7] (same optics as MC-X, MD-I and MD-III [7/7]
Minolta MD-III 2.8/28mm [5/5] (same optics as Minolta AF 2.8/28mm)
Nikkor Ai 2.8/28mm
Pentacon Auto 2.8/29mm Multi Coated (M42)
Pentax-M 2.8/28mm SMC
Tokina RMC 2.8/28mm
Topcon Topcor RE 2.8/28mm
Yashica ML 2.8/28mm [7/6]
I hope I'll have time to publish it tomorrow.
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Looking forward to it.
Tom |
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kiddo
Joined: 29 Jun 2018 Posts: 1269
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Posted: Wed Jun 02, 2021 8:40 pm Post subject: |
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kiddo wrote:
stevemark wrote: |
Going through old data I just found a test I've not published yet. Those are the lenses:
Canon nFD 2.8/28mm
Mamiya Sekor SX 2.8/28mm
Mamiya Sekor CS 2.8/28mm (same optics as Sekor E and Sekor EF)
Minolta MD-II 2.8/28mm [7/7] (same optics as MC-X, MD-I and MD-III [7/7]
Minolta MD-III 2.8/28mm [5/5] (same optics as Minolta AF 2.8/28mm)
Nikkor Ai 2.8/28mm
Pentacon Auto 2.8/29mm Multi Coated (M42)
Pentax-M 2.8/28mm SMC
Tokina RMC 2.8/28mm
Topcon Topcor RE 2.8/28mm
Yashica ML 2.8/28mm [7/6]
I hope I'll have time to publish it tomorrow.
Really no distagon at all????
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lumens pixel
Joined: 27 Feb 2019 Posts: 885
Expire: 2021-06-25
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Posted: Wed Jun 02, 2021 9:14 pm Post subject: |
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lumens pixel wrote:
stevemark wrote: |
Going through old data I just found a test I've not published yet. Those are the lenses:
Canon nFD 2.8/28mm
Mamiya Sekor SX 2.8/28mm
Mamiya Sekor CS 2.8/28mm (same optics as Sekor E and Sekor EF)
Minolta MD-II 2.8/28mm [7/7] (same optics as MC-X, MD-I and MD-III [7/7]
Minolta MD-III 2.8/28mm [5/5] (same optics as Minolta AF 2.8/28mm)
Nikkor Ai 2.8/28mm
Pentacon Auto 2.8/29mm Multi Coated (M42)
Pentax-M 2.8/28mm SMC
Tokina RMC 2.8/28mm
Topcon Topcor RE 2.8/28mm
Yashica ML 2.8/28mm [7/6]
I hope I'll have time to publish it tomorrow.
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Hope you have a good copy of the Minolta MDIII 5/5. Mine is really nice.
I remember having seen in your interesting book (thank you Google translate) about the Minolta system the mtf curves of the 28 2,0 and the 28 2,8 and, if my souvenir is correct, the f2,8 curve was no less impressive than the one of the famous f2,0. _________________ Lumens Pixel
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Minolta SR mount: 16 2,8; Sigma SuperWide 24 2,8; 28 2,5; 28 2,8; 28 3,5; 35 2,8; 45 2,0; 50 1,4; 50 1,7; 50 2,0; 58 1,4; 85 2,0; 100 2,5; 100 4 Macro; 135 3,5; 135 2,8; 200 4; RF 250 5,6; 24-35 3,5; 35-70 3,5; 75-150 4; 70-210 4
Canon FD mount: Tokina RMC 17 3,5; 28 2,8; 35 2,8; 50 1,8; 50 3,5 Macro; 55 1,2; 135 3,5; 135 2,5; 200 4,0; 300 5,6; 28-55 3,5 4,5; Tokina SZ-X SD 270; 70-150 4,5; 70-210 f4; 80-200 4L; Tokina SZ-X 845
Tamron Adaptall: 28-80 3,5-4,2 (27A); 70-210 3,8-4 (46A); 60-300 (23A); 90 2,5 (52B); 35-135 3,5-4,5 (40A)
Tamron SP: 20-40 2,7-3,5 (266D) |
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stevemark
Joined: 29 Apr 2011 Posts: 4049 Location: Switzerland
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Posted: Wed Jun 02, 2021 9:27 pm Post subject: |
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stevemark wrote:
lumens pixel wrote: |
Hope you have a good copy of the Minolta MDIII 5/5. Mine is really nice.
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I have quite a few MD-III 2.8/28mm [5/5] ... they all are from the garbage of local photo stores. Plus a few MinAF 2.8/28mm.
The difficult thing to get was the MD-III 2.8/28mm [7/7] ... virtually unknown here in Switzerland. My copy looks quite beaten, but seems to perform as well the other MC/MD 2.8/28mm [7/7] which are very common here (MC-X, MD-I, MD-II).
Quite like in the case of the Hexanon AR 3.5/28mm [7/7] vs AR 3.5/28mm [5/5], the 5L version of the Minolta has a bit weaker corners than the 7L version. And it isn't as wide as the /l vesion . Small tricks to play to keep the overall performanc acceptable, and the costs sufficiently low ...
S _________________ www.artaphot.ch |
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stevemark
Joined: 29 Apr 2011 Posts: 4049 Location: Switzerland
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Posted: Fri Jun 04, 2021 6:54 pm Post subject: |
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stevemark wrote:
In a separate thread I've published an overview over twenty-one vintage lenses with the focal length 28mm:
http://forum.mflenses.com/test-twenty-one-vintage-28mm-lenses-on-24-mp-ff-t82772.html
Most lenses are wery well suited for landscape photography on 24 MP FF sensors when stopped down to f11.
Exceptions are the Pentacon 2.8/29mm, the Tokina RMC 2.8/28mm and to a certain extent also the Yashica ML 2.8/28mm [7/6] - not surprisingly these "cheapos" are performing poorly.
Surprisingly good are the Canon FD 2.8/28mm and the Minolta MC-X 3.5/28mm. Both these lenses can be used at f5.6 for landscapes.
S _________________ www.artaphot.ch |
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charley5
Joined: 11 Feb 2020 Posts: 353 Location: India
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Posted: Sat Jun 05, 2021 2:02 pm Post subject: |
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charley5 wrote:
stevemark wrote: |
In a separate thread I've published an overview over twenty-one vintage lenses with the focal length 28mm:
http://forum.mflenses.com/test-twenty-one-vintage-28mm-lenses-on-24-mp-ff-t82772.html
Most lenses are wery well suited for landscape photography on 24 MP FF sensors when stopped down to f11.
Exceptions are the Pentacon 2.8/29mm, the Tokina RMC 2.8/28mm and to a certain extent also the Yashica ML 2.8/28mm [7/6] - not surprisingly these "cheapos" are performing poorly.
Surprisingly good are the Canon FD 2.8/28mm and the Minolta MC-X 3.5/28mm. Both these lenses can be used at f5.6 for landscapes.
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Most excellent testing. Thank you. Did you do center testing as well? |
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stevemark
Joined: 29 Apr 2011 Posts: 4049 Location: Switzerland
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Posted: Sat Jun 05, 2021 6:20 pm Post subject: |
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stevemark wrote:
charley5 wrote: |
Most excellent testing. Thank you. Did you do center testing as well? |
Yes, but only at f2.8. All lenses are pretty much indistiguishable, with exception of the MD-III 2/28mm which at f2 (!) has a bit more color fringing (longitudinal CAs) than the others at f2.8, and the Tokina Auto-Wide which has a lower contrast than the others.
S _________________ www.artaphot.ch |
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charley5
Joined: 11 Feb 2020 Posts: 353 Location: India
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Posted: Sun Jun 06, 2021 5:23 am Post subject: |
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charley5 wrote:
stevemark wrote: |
charley5 wrote: |
Most excellent testing. Thank you. Did you do center testing as well? |
Yes, but only at f2.8. All lenses are pretty much indistiguishable, with exception of the MD-III 2/28mm which at f2 (!) has a bit more color fringing (longitudinal CAs) than the others at f2.8, and the Tokina Auto-Wide which has a lower contrast than the others.
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Thank you. Much appreciated! |
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