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PostPosted: Mon Jun 30, 2008 6:32 pm    Post subject: Nikon D700, official Reply with quote
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Last edited by ChrisLilley on Mon Jun 30, 2008 7:19 pm; edited 1 time in total


PostPosted: Mon Jun 30, 2008 6:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
good news! I hope all manufacturer will push full frame and lower price


PostPosted: Mon Jun 30, 2008 6:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
I hope one day full frame cameras can go down to 1500 Euros level, but they currently seem stuck at 2000, which is too much for the average amateur.


PostPosted: Mon Jun 30, 2008 7:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Orio wrote:
I hope one day full frame cameras can go down to 1500 Euros level, but they currently seem stuck at 2000, which is too much for the average amateur.


This one is 2,599. But then, the rumour mill said 2,999. And its a lot cheaper than the D3.

Not that it makes it affordable for an average amateur like myself.


PostPosted: Mon Jun 30, 2008 7:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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Non-CPU AI NIKKOR: Can be used in exposure modes A and M; electronic rangefinder can be used if maximum aperture is f/5.6 or faster; Color Matrix Metering and aperture value display supported if user provides lens data


So, same as a D200/D300, but good to know that MF compatibility has not been crippled out.


PostPosted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 6:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
http://www.dpreview.com/previews/nikond700/


PostPosted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 8:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
I'm affraid I'll start saving for this one... Embarassed


PostPosted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 9:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
The drawback of the Canon 5D and EF mount is that does not accept EF-S lenses, like Nikon does (Pentax could make the same, buy mounting APS-C lenses on their FF body, when they will release it). May be Canon will made some changings and the camera (5D II) will work with EF-S lenses. This would mean that it could accept lenses that could not be mounted on the present 5D because of the bigger mirror. Although this is not expected to happen.


PostPosted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 10:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Nikon UK and Ireland page on D700


PostPosted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 11:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
It's almost texactly the same price as a new boiler and associated work. Somehow I don't think I could have persuaded my wife that a new camera would have a been a better investment though Wink


PostPosted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 12:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Richard_D wrote:
It's almost texactly the same price as a new boiler and associated work. Somehow I don't think I could have persuaded my wife that a new camera would have a been a better investment though Wink


Richard, its the summer! Even in the UK summer is warmish, no? Leave the central heating until the start of winter in October or whatever it is there.

sweltering in 35degree heat here ...


PostPosted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 2:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
ChrisLilley wrote:
Richard, its the summer! Even in the UK summer is warmish, no? Leave the central heating until the start of winter in October or whatever it is there.


Ha! That's when everybody else is looking for a plumber and prices go through the roof.

About the Canon EF-S lenses, they could be used easily on a FF camera if there was an option in the software to only refer to a central area of the large sensor.


PostPosted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 2:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
peterqd wrote:
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About the Canon EF-S lenses, they could be used easily on a FF camera if there was an option in the software to only refer to a central area of the large sensor.


Here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canon_EF-S_lens_mount is written that "...Canon designers have taken steps to ensure it is physically impossible to mount EF-S lenses on EF-only cameras. This is because the increased proximity of the lens to the sensor means that on full-frame sensor or 35mm film EF cameras the lens itself would obstruct the mirror's movement and cause damage to the lens and/or camera."


PostPosted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 3:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
montecarlo wrote:
peterqd wrote:
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About the Canon EF-S lenses, they could be used easily on a FF camera if there was an option in the software to only refer to a central area of the large sensor.


Here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canon_EF-S_lens_mount is written that "...Canon designers have taken steps to ensure it is physically impossible to mount EF-S lenses on EF-only cameras. This is because the increased proximity of the lens to the sensor means that on full-frame sensor or 35mm film EF cameras the lens itself would obstruct the mirror's movement and cause damage to the lens and/or camera."


Ah, I didn't know that, thanks. The instructions for my camera say only that the EF-S lenses are not compatible with FF cameras (film or digital), which I took to mean that the image circle is too small. The projecting part of the 18-55 kit lens is surrounded with soft rubber, maybe that's why! Smile

Are there any decent EF-S lenses to worry about? I thought they are only the kit lenses.


PostPosted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 4:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
There is only one EF-S lens that would be worth the hassle of a modification and that is the 60 EF-S macro, which I have and is the reason why I will always have a APS-C Canon camera (for my work).

All other EF-S can be sighlessly put into oblivion (but I think this of 90% of all Canon autofocus lenses so I am a slightly biased opinion source Laughing )


PostPosted: Wed Jul 02, 2008 6:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
http://www.ephotozine.com/article/Nikon-D700


PostPosted: Fri Jul 18, 2008 6:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
More ... :
http://www.nikonians.org/nikon/d700/
http://www.nikond700.com/nikon-d700-review/
http://www.imaging-resource.com/PRODS/D700/D700GALLERY.HTM
http://www.dphotojournal.com/nikon-d700-review-sample-photos/


PostPosted: Fri Jul 18, 2008 1:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Orio wrote:
There is only one EF-S lens that would be worth the hassle of a modification and that is the 60 EF-S macro, which I have and is the reason why I will always have a APS-C Canon camera (for my work).

All other EF-S can be sighlessly put into oblivion (but I think this of 90% of all Canon autofocus lenses so I am a slightly biased opinion source Laughing )


I take it you haven't used the 17-55 2.8 IS lense Orio. This would be L glass except they don't designate any EF-S lenses L. I have used the M/F lensese enough, now, to have a pretty good idea whats good. It also cost $1000. I long before I got into M/F got rid of poor focus A/F lenses.

I love the M/F lenses, but can't bring myself to say anything bad about lenses that work for me everytime. Funny, before I got the flek and yashica I didn't think anything could equal these $1000 and $1000+ lenses.


PostPosted: Sun Aug 03, 2008 8:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
I have to say I could sell this Nikon D700 for 2520€.


New with warranty.

Smile


PostPosted: Sun Aug 03, 2008 10:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Orio wrote:
There is only one EF-S lens that would be worth the hassle of a modification and that is the 60 EF-S macro, which I have and is the reason why I will always have a APS-C Canon camera (for my work).


this lens?


Now you could also consider the new Nikon 60mm AF-S ED N macro


PostPosted: Wed Aug 06, 2008 12:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
montecarlo wrote:
peterqd wrote:
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About the Canon EF-S lenses, they could be used easily on a FF camera if there was an option in the software to only refer to a central area of the large sensor.


Here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canon_EF-S_lens_mount is written that "...Canon designers have taken steps to ensure it is physically impossible to mount EF-S lenses on EF-only cameras. This is because the increased proximity of the lens to the sensor means that on full-frame sensor or 35mm film EF cameras the lens itself would obstruct the mirror's movement and cause damage to the lens and/or camera."


It's easy to remove the obstructing piece on the back of the EF-S 18-55 lens to use it on EF-only (but APS-C) bodies. There are quite a few bodies that it works with. There's a site about it out there.
http://www.bobatkins.com/photography/tutorials/efs-10d.html


@Peter.
The rear element of the EF-S kit lens protrudes about 3mm to the rear - whether this would hit the 5D's mirror, I don't know. If it didn't, it would be easy enough to take a shot and crop to suit. I suspect it will hit the mirror, though.


PostPosted: Wed Aug 06, 2008 1:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
ChrisLilley wrote:
this lens?


Yes. It's the only AF lens that I know I will never sell.

ChrisLilley wrote:
Now you could also consider the new Nikon 60mm AF-S ED N macro


I don't know. I used to have the previous version AF AIS, but I was not happy with it. It has an amount of distortion that I find not acceptable in a macro lens. When I was shooting Nikon, I ended up always using the AF 50/1.8 instead, which was perfect. So I sold the macro. Now someone in Portugal owns it.
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