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PostPosted: Thu Nov 13, 2008 5:47 am    Post subject: Sharpest Lenses Reply with quote

I was just wondering what people think is "The A-list" when it comes to sharp lenses?

Name your Top 10 lenses ranked in your own opinion of sharpness. Cover the entire specture of lenses, ie modern to classics.


PostPosted: Thu Nov 13, 2008 6:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

my sharpest lenses are:

Zeiss Distagon T* 25/2.8 ZS
S-M-C Takumar 50/1.4
MC Pancolar 50/1.8
MC Pancolar 80/1.8

But this is nothing surprising Smile


PostPosted: Thu Nov 13, 2008 7:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

no-X wrote:
my sharpest lenses are:

Zeiss Distagon T* 25/2.8 ZS
S-M-C Takumar 50/1.4
MC Pancolar 50/1.8
MC Pancolar 80/1.8

But this is nothing surprising Smile

Don't forget the Planar 50mm 1.7....

Jes.


PostPosted: Thu Nov 13, 2008 7:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

My sharpest is CZ Sonnar 3.5/100, without a doubt.
Other CZ sharpest lenses I have are Distagon 25, Distagon 2.8/28, Tessar 45, Sonnar 85, Makro-Planar 100, Planar and Sonnar 135s
My Leica Elmarits (35, 90, 135, 180) are damn sharp also.
Other sharp lenses I have: CZJ Tessar 4.5/40, CZJ Sonnar 4/135, CZJ Sonnar 180, CZJ Sonnar 200 (now for sale), CZJ Sonnar 300, Nikkor 2.5/105, Nikkor 1.8/85, Steinheil 4.5/135, and amongst my Russian the sharpest are MIR-36B 3.5/65, Helios-40-2 1.5/85, MIR-24x 2/35, Jupiter-37xx 3.5/135, Jupiter-21M 4/200


PostPosted: Thu Nov 13, 2008 12:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Orio wrote:
My sharpest is CZ Sonnar 3.5/100, without a doubt.
Other CZ sharpest lenses I have are Distagon 25, Distagon 2.8/28, Tessar 45, Sonnar 85, Makro-Planar 100, Planar and Sonnar 135s
My Leica Elmarits (35, 90, 135, 180) are damn sharp also.
Other sharp lenses I have: CZJ Tessar 4.5/40, CZJ Sonnar 4/135, CZJ Sonnar 180, CZJ Sonnar 200 (now for sale), CZJ Sonnar 300, Nikkor 2.5/105, Nikkor 1.8/85, Steinheil 4.5/135, and amongst my Russian the sharpest are MIR-36B 3.5/65, Helios-40-2 1.5/85, MIR-24x 2/35, Jupiter-37xx 3.5/135, Jupiter-21M 4/200


Hello, Orio.

What beauties you have!!!! They are a dream.

Your taste in lenses is superb.

When you can, if you have a M camera, try the elmaron 2,8/35. If I don't remember in the bad way, at F/ 5.6, 8 and 11 is very, very sharp.

Regards, Rino.


PostPosted: Thu Nov 13, 2008 1:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hard to say, since "sharp" for me is not a primary quality of a lens.
It is nice if an image is pretty detailed, but there are many other characteristics that are more important to me.
Thus I do not often "test" a lens for it's sharpness and cannot really tell which of my lenses are the sharpest...


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PostPosted: Thu Nov 13, 2008 1:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

estudleon wrote:

Hello, Orio.
What beauties you have!!!! They are a dream.
Your taste in lenses is superb.
When you can, if you have a M camera, try the elmaron 2,8/35. If I don't remember in the bad way, at F/ 5.6, 8 and 11 is very, very sharp.
Regards, Rino.


Thanks Rino. I will keep it in mind.


PostPosted: Thu Nov 13, 2008 1:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

So many lens sharp stopped down, easy to make sharp lens wide open if aperture start at f4.5 Laughing

Real question is which one is sharp under F2

Sharpness list wide open

SMC Pentax 50mm f1.2
Biotar 75mm f1.5
Pancolar 80mm f1.8
Nikkor 85mm f1.8 black AI
etc.

Most 50mm lens from good brand


PostPosted: Thu Nov 13, 2008 2:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Attila wrote:
So many lens sharp stopped down, easy to make sharp lens wide open if aperture start at f4.5 Laughing

Real question is which one is sharp under F2

Sharpness list wide open

SMC Pentax 50mm f1.2
Biotar 75mm f1.5
Pancolar 80mm f1.8
Nikkor 85mm f1.8 black AI
etc.

Most 50mm lens from good brand



Hi, Atila !!

Note that 75% of the lens that you named, are portrait lenses. I think that in portrait is usefull the DOF of F/1,4; 1,5;

But in the others Focals the F/1,4 is direct to bad lights situations, so great sharpness, for what?

Logically, in the compromise that implicate the relation price-benefit, the lenses design reserve the sharpness for mediums apertures. But thanks god, the exception is there.

And in M42 there aren't many F/1,2 lenses to choose. Crying or Very sad

Rino.


PostPosted: Thu Nov 13, 2008 2:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Orio wrote:
My sharpest is CZ Sonnar 3.5/100, without a doubt.
....


Yes that lens is very sharp, actually too sharp for a portraiture. Very Happy
I suspect the lens was made as a macro one, very similar to
ML 3.5/100 macro lens, this is my guess. Of course they show different
drawings, ML 3.5/100mm is more oil-paint like rendering to me.

CZ Planar 1.2/55 is very sharp, bar none (believe me Very Happy).
Nikkor AF Micro 200/4D is also extremely sharp and lovely bokeh too.
(But this should be, it is designed as a macro and only F4.)
Don't forget Nikkor-O 55/1.2 (aka CRT Nikkor) is also sharp!

Among much modern lenses,
CZ Makro-Planar 2/50(ZF), 2/100(ZF) and
CZ Distagon 2/35(ZF) are also sharp.
But they are only F2!! Shocked Very Happy


PostPosted: Thu Nov 13, 2008 3:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hmm, sharp is relative and just one lens factor but let me provide my answers in the spirit of the question.

When I think sharp these are the ones I really consider

Contax Zeiss 100/2.0
Pentax SMC 50/1.4 (only at close focusing)
Contax 50/1.4 (when focused near or at infinty)
Contax Zeiss 28/2.8 (when used on a cropped DSLR)
Leica 180/3.4 APO (when focused near or at infinty)
Leica R 60/2.8
Canon EOS 400/5.6L USM
Vivitar Series 1 90/2.5 macro (yet with creamy bokeh)
Contax Zeiss 85/2.8
and the final surprise entry is....
Leica 560/6.8 a monster of a lense but when you nail an image with it the results will challenge anything out there.

None of these listed in any special order although I feel that the 100/2.0 is my sharpest.


PostPosted: Thu Nov 13, 2008 3:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

As a Contaxer mine will be a repeat of Orio mostly

3.5/100AEJ is in fact my sharpest and maybe the sharpest sort tele out there
2/100AEG
2.8/85MMG
1.4/85MMJ

Zuiko 2/21 is my sharpest wide by a good margin and terribly impressive at that


Contax Planar G 2/45
Contax 1.7/50
Rokkor 1.2/58 but not from my experience as I have yet to use it much (new arrival) samples from others are impressive

I don't have a Voigtlander 125mm F 2.5 SL APO-Lanthar Macro but I think it should be mentioned. It seems to be very sharp and simply brilliant optic I wish to have one.
On the used market it is bring similar prices to a new 2/100 Macro Planar and that would be a first choice Wink


PostPosted: Thu Nov 13, 2008 3:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My plug is the Kino made Lester A Dine 105mm F2.8 macro...Wickedly sharp


PostPosted: Thu Nov 13, 2008 4:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

all my lenses are very sharp, I try to measure them but everytime I cut myself!


PostPosted: Thu Nov 13, 2008 4:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

As I test them, all of Zeiss are very very sharp that you don't need sharpen in Photoshop. Laughing


PostPosted: Thu Nov 13, 2008 4:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Carl Zeiss Jena 500mm f4.5 and MTO 500mm f6.3 Tamron sp 350mm f5.6 also amazingly sharp even if they have longer focal lengths.


PostPosted: Thu Nov 13, 2008 5:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Attila,

Did CZJ make 500/4.5?


PostPosted: Thu Nov 13, 2008 5:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sorry I didn't remember as well, they made even better one 4/500mm
http://www.mflenses.com/gallery/v/german/zeiss/czj_spiegelobjektiv_500mm_f4/


PostPosted: Thu Nov 13, 2008 5:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

OOOh, Yeeeas. This 500/4 is the Legend.
One day I wish to own 500/4 AND 1000/5.6. Just my dream.


PostPosted: Thu Nov 13, 2008 5:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

koji wrote:
OOOh, Yeeeas. This 500/4 is the Legend.
One day I wish to own 500/4 AND 1000/5.6. Just my dream.


Friend of mine have them both, theses lenses are a dream for me too. I never seen any copy locally and I seen only a few times on Ebay.


PostPosted: Thu Nov 13, 2008 10:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is a very fun topic to read, some beautiful and amazing glass you all have there! Very Happy


PostPosted: Thu Nov 13, 2008 11:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Old products are amazing in every areas I am not sure our current products will not been a garbage 20 yrs later.


PostPosted: Thu Nov 13, 2008 11:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

koji wrote:
OOOh, Yeeeas. This 500/4 is the Legend.
One day I wish to own 500/4 AND 1000/5.6. Just my dream.


I had the 5.6/1000mm, what a monster, nearly cracked one of my tripods. BUT it is increadibly sharp!!

That thing also covers 6x6, sold it later to a Rollei SL66 user.

Not my pics, from CZJ btw.

50mm:


1000mm using the CZJ 5.6/1000mm mirror lens


Design:


Brochure:




...BUT the Zeiss West Contax Mirotar 1000mm is better, no wonder at 50k.


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PostPosted: Thu Nov 13, 2008 11:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thank you Klaus to showing us this big guy!


PostPosted: Fri Nov 14, 2008 12:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks Klaus.

I saw those photos long ago. CZJ and CZ 1000/5.6 are much the same
performance wise, so said the owner of these two mirror lenses. But for
500/4 lens there is no competitor only among mirror lenses though. Very Happy

The reason I want to own 1000/5.6 is to complete all the Prakticars.