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DR.JUAN
Joined: 08 Feb 2013 Posts: 661
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Posted: Tue Jan 07, 2014 6:54 pm Post subject: advice super sharp 28 or 35 mm lens. |
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DR.JUAN wrote:
I need one 35 mm lens or 28 one to fill the space between my 58 and 24 lenses.
I like the super sharp lenses, not matter the bokeh.
I know the zeiss and leica m and R lenses. In my local market, don't find anything of both.
Any suggestion will be appreciate.
I don't speack about priced, all is welcome. |
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ManualFocus-G
Joined: 29 Dec 2008 Posts: 6622 Location: United Kingdom
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Posted: Tue Jan 07, 2014 7:32 pm Post subject: |
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ManualFocus-G wrote:
Can you not get a Leica or Zeiss delivered to you? I've not come across anything as sharp as a Zeiss Distagon 35/2.8 or 28/2.8. _________________ Graham - Moderator
Shooter of choice: Fujifilm X-T20 with M42, PB and C/Y lenses
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DR.JUAN
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Posted: Tue Jan 07, 2014 7:55 pm Post subject: |
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DR.JUAN wrote:
ManualFocus-G wrote: |
Can you not get a Leica or Zeiss delivered to you? I've not come across anything as sharp as a Zeiss Distagon 35/2.8 or 28/2.8. |
Please, listen. A distagon 2,8/35 in rollei mount for the SL 35 (one pin), is near the 500 bucks here.
Silence, you can understand, sure. |
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Attila
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 57865 Location: Hungary
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Posted: Tue Jan 07, 2014 8:20 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
Low price and super sharp not met usually, I do not really understand you what do you like to know or hear ? Based on your initial post Graham did reply to you properly. What is your budget ? Where do you like to have super sharpness , wide open ? F8 ? all matter. _________________ -------------------------------
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ManualFocus-G
Joined: 29 Dec 2008 Posts: 6622 Location: United Kingdom
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Posted: Tue Jan 07, 2014 8:51 pm Post subject: |
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ManualFocus-G wrote:
DR.JUAN wrote: |
ManualFocus-G wrote: |
Can you not get a Leica or Zeiss delivered to you? I've not come across anything as sharp as a Zeiss Distagon 35/2.8 or 28/2.8. |
Please, listen. A distagon 2,8/35 in rollei mount for the SL 35 (one pin), is near the 500 bucks here.
Silence, you can understand, sure. |
Nice response
Your message makes no sense. You say your local market has none, but then it does have a 35/2.8! Perhaps re-write your message so it makes sense. And tell us what camera it needs to fit. _________________ Graham - Moderator
Shooter of choice: Fujifilm X-T20 with M42, PB and C/Y lenses
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Aanything
Joined: 27 Aug 2011 Posts: 2187 Location: Piacenza, Italy
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Posted: Tue Jan 07, 2014 9:05 pm Post subject: |
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Aanything wrote:
The takumar 28/3.5 and 35/3.5 are both very sharp, not quite like
The distagon 28/2.8, but really sharp none the less. And they should be relatively cheap. _________________ C&C and editing of my pics are always welcome
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kuuan
Joined: 14 Jan 2008 Posts: 4569 Location: right now: Austria
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Posted: Tue Jan 07, 2014 9:28 pm Post subject: |
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kuuan wrote:
if on a NEX I'd recommend the Sigma f2.8/30mm, cheap, lightweight and very sharp, eh..and it got AF
haven't used any Zeiss, for Takumars I agree and recommend the f3.5/35mm! I much like my 3.5/28 Takumar too, it takes lovely photos and is quite sharp, but my Yashinon-Ds ( yes, a Ds in M42 ), Pentax f2.8/28mm and Vivitar f2.8/28mm Close Focus are all in the same level and sharper than my 28mm Tak. Should mention that I have a few 28mm that are less sharp than my tak too _________________ my photos on flickr: https://www.flickr.com/photos/kuuan/collections
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iangreenhalgh1
Joined: 18 Mar 2011 Posts: 15679
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Posted: Tue Jan 07, 2014 9:31 pm Post subject: |
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iangreenhalgh1 wrote:
Minolta 3.5/28 and Konica 3.5/28, the earlier 7 element versions.
Meyer Primagon 4.5/35, Carl Zeiss Skoparex 3.4/35, Canon FL 2.5/35.
Those are all razor sharp and pretty cheap. _________________ I don't care who designed it, who made it or what country it comes from - I just enjoy using it! |
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DR.JUAN
Joined: 08 Feb 2013 Posts: 661
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Posted: Tue Jan 07, 2014 9:53 pm Post subject: |
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DR.JUAN wrote:
Attila wrote: |
Low price and super sharp not met usually, I do not really understand you what do you like to know or hear ? Based on your initial post Graham did reply to you properly. What is your budget ? Where do you like to have super sharpness , wide open ? F8 ? all matter. |
Not matter the price (into the general rule) if the lens cost that in normal way. At least that is what I wanted to write.
If I can´t have an acces to the sharp lens now, not matter, I will put it in the waitting list. When I find it, well, buy it.
Sharp wide open? Not. I usually use the lenses, and the wide angle more, at f/5,6 and close.
There are a lot of lenses that never tried till now. For example, the tokina 28 lenses, the vivitar 35 and 28, Pentax K or A series, canon FD, and so.
And like here, in this forum, there are some people with a lot of experience in lenses and much criteria, I thought that is a really good idea asking them |
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DR.JUAN
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Posted: Tue Jan 07, 2014 10:21 pm Post subject: |
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DR.JUAN wrote:
ManualFocus-G wrote: |
DR.JUAN wrote: |
ManualFocus-G wrote: |
Can you not get a Leica or Zeiss delivered to you? I've not come across anything as sharp as a Zeiss Distagon 35/2.8 or 28/2.8. |
Please, listen. A distagon 2,8/35 in rollei mount for the SL 35 (one pin), is near the 500 bucks here.
Silence, you can understand, sure. |
Nice response
Your message makes no sense. You say your local market has none, but then it does have a 35/2.8! Perhaps re-write your message so it makes sense. And tell us what camera it needs to fit. |
Now the lens isn't to sell. But in my mind I was thinking in newer zeiss lenses.
Any lens is usefull for my. If that wasn't I should put the limits. |
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DR.JUAN
Joined: 08 Feb 2013 Posts: 661
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Posted: Tue Jan 07, 2014 10:22 pm Post subject: |
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DR.JUAN wrote:
Aanything wrote: |
The takumar 28/3.5 and 35/3.5 are both very sharp, not quite like
The distagon 28/2.8, but really sharp none the less. And they should be relatively cheap. |
Both are in my list. Thanks. |
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DR.JUAN
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Posted: Tue Jan 07, 2014 10:23 pm Post subject: |
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DR.JUAN wrote:
kuuan wrote: |
if on a NEX I'd recommend the Sigma f2.8/30mm, cheap, lightweight and very sharp, eh..and it got AF
haven't used any Zeiss, for Takumars I agree and recommend the f3.5/35mm! I much like my 3.5/28 Takumar too, it takes lovely photos and is quite sharp, but my Yashinon-Ds ( yes, a Ds in M42 ), Pentax f2.8/28mm and Vivitar f2.8/28mm Close Focus are all in the same level and sharper than my 28mm Tak. Should mention that I have a few 28mm that are less sharp than my tak too |
I added the takumar 3,5/35, the yashinon 28 and vivitar 28.
Thanks Kuuan. |
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DR.JUAN
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Posted: Tue Jan 07, 2014 10:25 pm Post subject: |
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DR.JUAN wrote:
iangreenhalgh1 wrote: |
Minolta 3.5/28 and Konica 3.5/28, the earlier 7 element versions.
Meyer Primagon 4.5/35, Carl Zeiss Skoparex 3.4/35, Canon FL 2.5/35.
Those are all razor sharp and pretty cheap. |
The primagon 4,5/35, the icarex skopagon and the canon 2,5/35 are in my list too.
The Minolta and the konica (both 7 elements) are good lenses.
Thanks Ian. |
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Rick1779
Joined: 17 May 2013 Posts: 1207 Location: Italy
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Posted: Tue Jan 07, 2014 10:27 pm Post subject: |
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Rick1779 wrote:
I'd say Primagon, great lens with a great sharpness even if a bit slow
And you can also consider the sigma 30/2.8 AF for the nex, great performer for its price _________________ TELLTALE
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Rick1779
Joined: 17 May 2013 Posts: 1207 Location: Italy
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Posted: Tue Jan 07, 2014 10:29 pm Post subject: |
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Rick1779 wrote:
And the primagon (at least my copy) beat the SMC tak 35/3.5 in sharpness with ease and color rendition, but the tak wins in flare control _________________ TELLTALE
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DR.JUAN
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Posted: Tue Jan 07, 2014 10:39 pm Post subject: |
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DR.JUAN wrote:
Rick1779 wrote: |
I'd say Primagon, great lens with a great sharpness even if a bit slow
And you can also consider the sigma 30/2.8 AF for the nex, great performer for its price |
Thanks Rick1779.
I don't know if the sigma has a manual focus option. |
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Rick1779
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Posted: Tue Jan 07, 2014 10:48 pm Post subject: |
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Rick1779 wrote:
yes you can use it also as mf, but well, is not designed for that _________________ TELLTALE
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DR.JUAN
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Posted: Tue Jan 07, 2014 11:04 pm Post subject: |
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DR.JUAN wrote:
Rick1779 wrote: |
yes you can use it also as mf, but well, is not designed for that |
Thanks again. |
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mick232
Joined: 30 Nov 2013 Posts: 25
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Posted: Tue Jan 07, 2014 11:39 pm Post subject: |
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mick232 wrote:
The Carl Zeiss Jena Flektogon 35/2.4 is pretty sharp in the center wide open, gets sharp across the frame stopped down. But you really should tell us first what camera and sensor size you need it for. |
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Mir
Joined: 07 Feb 2011 Posts: 983 Location: Montreal, Canada
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Posted: Wed Jan 08, 2014 12:05 am Post subject: |
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Mir wrote:
TOPCON RE, Auto-Topcor 2,8/35 _________________ "Obsta principiis, finem respice"
"There is a fine line between hobby and mental illness"
MISC: Tamron SP 35-80 (01A), Auto Chinon Tomioka 1.4/55, Tokina AT-X 2.5/90, Tamron SP 5,6/300 (54B)
ZEISS: WG Distagon 2.8/25, WG Distagon 2.8/35 HFT, WG Planar HFT 1.4/50, Ultron 1.8/50, WG Sonnar 2.8/85, WG Sonnar HFT 2.8/135
VOIGTLÄNDER : Ultron Aspherical 1.8/21, Ultron 2/28, Nokton Aspherical 1.2/35, Nokton Classic 1.4/40, Nokton 1.2/50, Nokton Aspherical 1.5/50, Color-Heliar 2.5/75
MINOLTA: MD 3.5/35-70 Macro, MD 1.2/50, MC Rokkor-X 1.2/58, MD Macro 3.5/50
LEITZ: SUMMICRON-R 2/35 (II), SUMMICRON-R 2/50 (II), TELE ELMARIT-M 2,8/90 (Thin)
CANON RF: 2.8/28, 2/35, 1.2/50, 1.4/50, 1.5/50, Serenar 1.8/50, 2/85, 2/100, 3.5/100
LTM : YASHICA YASHINON 1.8/5cm, FUJINON L 2/5cm, CHIYODA KOGAKU SUPER ROKKOR 1.8/5cm, CHIYOKO SUPER ROKKOR C 2/5cm, TOKYO KOGAKU Topcor-S 2/5cm, Nippon Kogaku NIKKOR-H.C 2/5cm, KMZ Jupiter-8 2/5cm
DKL : VOIGTLÄNDER SKOPAREX 3,4/35, SEPTON 2/50, DYNAREX 3,4/90, SUPER-DYNAREX 4/135, Scheiner-Kreuznach Retina-Xenon 1,9/50
And a small Minolta AF set: 2.8/20, 1.4/35, 1.4/50, 2/100, 4.5/100-200
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DR.JUAN
Joined: 08 Feb 2013 Posts: 661
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Posted: Wed Jan 08, 2014 2:00 am Post subject: |
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DR.JUAN wrote:
mick232 wrote: |
The Carl Zeiss Jena Flektogon 35/2.4 is pretty sharp in the center wide open, gets sharp across the frame stopped down. But you really should tell us first what camera and sensor size you need it for. |
Thanks mick232.
It's really a very good lens. |
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DR.JUAN
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Posted: Wed Jan 08, 2014 2:03 am Post subject: |
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DR.JUAN wrote:
Mir wrote: |
TOPCON RE, Auto-Topcor 2,8/35 |
Thanks mir, very much.
Is it for topcon unirex cam? |
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Mir
Joined: 07 Feb 2011 Posts: 983 Location: Montreal, Canada
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Posted: Wed Jan 08, 2014 3:08 am Post subject: |
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Mir wrote:
no it's Topcon/Exakta mount
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Topcon_RE_Super
It's no Distagon..... but it's pretty good ! _________________ "Obsta principiis, finem respice"
"There is a fine line between hobby and mental illness"
MISC: Tamron SP 35-80 (01A), Auto Chinon Tomioka 1.4/55, Tokina AT-X 2.5/90, Tamron SP 5,6/300 (54B)
ZEISS: WG Distagon 2.8/25, WG Distagon 2.8/35 HFT, WG Planar HFT 1.4/50, Ultron 1.8/50, WG Sonnar 2.8/85, WG Sonnar HFT 2.8/135
VOIGTLÄNDER : Ultron Aspherical 1.8/21, Ultron 2/28, Nokton Aspherical 1.2/35, Nokton Classic 1.4/40, Nokton 1.2/50, Nokton Aspherical 1.5/50, Color-Heliar 2.5/75
MINOLTA: MD 3.5/35-70 Macro, MD 1.2/50, MC Rokkor-X 1.2/58, MD Macro 3.5/50
LEITZ: SUMMICRON-R 2/35 (II), SUMMICRON-R 2/50 (II), TELE ELMARIT-M 2,8/90 (Thin)
CANON RF: 2.8/28, 2/35, 1.2/50, 1.4/50, 1.5/50, Serenar 1.8/50, 2/85, 2/100, 3.5/100
LTM : YASHICA YASHINON 1.8/5cm, FUJINON L 2/5cm, CHIYODA KOGAKU SUPER ROKKOR 1.8/5cm, CHIYOKO SUPER ROKKOR C 2/5cm, TOKYO KOGAKU Topcor-S 2/5cm, Nippon Kogaku NIKKOR-H.C 2/5cm, KMZ Jupiter-8 2/5cm
DKL : VOIGTLÄNDER SKOPAREX 3,4/35, SEPTON 2/50, DYNAREX 3,4/90, SUPER-DYNAREX 4/135, Scheiner-Kreuznach Retina-Xenon 1,9/50
And a small Minolta AF set: 2.8/20, 1.4/35, 1.4/50, 2/100, 4.5/100-200
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hifisapi
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Posted: Wed Jan 08, 2014 3:15 am Post subject: |
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hifisapi wrote:
DR.JUAN wrote: |
Aanything wrote: |
The takumar 28/3.5 and 35/3.5 are both very sharp, not quite like
The distagon 28/2.8, but really sharp none the less. And they should be relatively cheap. |
Both are in my list. Thanks. |
The smcK 28mm f3.5 is even sharper than the takumar and only costs about $150 _________________ ===========
ACQUIRED OVER 30 YEARS:
Cameras: DSLR=Pentax istDS FILM=Pentax SP, SP-F, ESII, SP1000, KX, K2
Lenses : Pentax M42 = Super Multi Coated Takumars 50/1.4 55/1.8 100/4-BELLOWS 500/4.5 1000/8 135-600/6.7 Pentax PK= SMC Pentax-Ks K17/4-FF Fisheye K18/3.5 K20/4 K24/3.5 K28/3.5 K28/2 K35/3.5 K35/2 K50/1.2 K50/1.4K 50/4-MACROK 55/1.8 K85/1.8 K100/4-MACRO K100/4-BELLOWS K105/2.8 K120/2.8 K135/3.5 K135/2.5 K150/4 K200/4 K400/5.6 K45-125/4K 85-210/4.5 Pentax PKM = SMC Pentax-M M40/2.8-Pancake M50/1.4 M75-150/4 M80-200/4.5 Pentax PKA= SMC Pentax-A A15/3.5 A50/2.8-MACRO A28/2 A35/2 A50/1.4 A135/2.8 A200/4 A*300/4 A35-105/3.5 A24-50/4 A70-210/4 TAMRON AD2= SP80-200/2.8 SP180/2.5 TOKINA AT-X PK= ATX28-85/3.5-4.5 ATX35-70/2.8 ATX60-120/2.8 ATX80-200/2.8 ATX100-300/4 ATX90/2.5 MACRO KIRON-LESTER DINE PK = 105/2.8-MACRO VIVITAR PK = 135/2.8-MACRO 28-85/4 NOFLEXAR AUTOBELLOWS PK = 60/4 105/4 |
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ForenSeil
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Posted: Wed Jan 08, 2014 3:32 am Post subject: |
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ForenSeil wrote:
My tip:
Contax G Biogon 28/2.8 T*
(if you're using NEXC3/5N or later or µFT, please stop ignoring our asks about your camera, otherwise I will start recommending medium format fisheye, D-Mount 8mm film and CS-Mount surveillance ~30mm lenses ) _________________ I'm not a collector, I'm a tester
My camera: Sony A7+Zeiss Sonnar 55/1.8
Current favourite lenses (I have many more):
A few macro-Tominons, Samyang 12/2.8, Noritsu 50.7/9.5, Rodagon 105/5.6 on bellows, Samyang 135/2, Nikon ED 180/2.8, Leitz Elmar-R 250/4, Celestron C8 2000mm F10
Most wanted: Samyang 24/1.4, Samyang 35/1.4, Nikon 200/2 ED
My Blog: http://picturechemistry.own-blog.com/
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