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tobbsman
Joined: 25 Jul 2008 Posts: 2578 Location: Austria
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Posted: Mon May 07, 2012 9:16 pm Post subject: Down the Harbour |
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tobbsman wrote:
Want to show a shot from yesterdays
experimenting with wide open panoramas.
town of Zell am See - harbour
the tourist-ship in the background just arriving
- 30 shots
- SMC K 50/1.4
- wide open use @1.4
- handheld
I still don't feel comfortably in shooting these type of panos, ... they're
somehow unpredictable in the outcome.
Whilst with "normal" (small apperture) panorama I mostly know how the final
result will render, I am very unsure with these wide open ones.
the heavy OOF makes it very unpredictable and so composing the
scene while shooting is a kind of roulette.
But that's also the kind of excitement that comes along with it, and makes it
though kind of addictive.
This shot has a rather impressionistic outcome due to it's large and heavy OOF area:
just interested what you think about it ...
here a large one to check the detail:
Thanks for C&C
Tobias
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skida
Joined: 02 Mar 2012 Posts: 1826 Location: North East England
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Posted: Mon May 07, 2012 9:36 pm Post subject: |
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skida wrote:
I don't like most panoramas, mainly because where I have seen them posted I have to scroll horizontally as they roll off my screen. I have been very impressed with your panos though, tobbsman. When you started posting "bokeh panoramas", I thought "What's the point of a great big wide picture if 95% of it is out of focus?", but I quite like this one, maybe because there is enough detail in the uncomplicated background to get a sense of location. One benefit of this image is the subject, being the only part focussed, looks really sharp and the 3D is more pronounced.
Interesting and thought provoking. |
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Orio
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 29545 Location: West Emilia
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Posted: Mon May 07, 2012 10:34 pm Post subject: |
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Orio wrote:
interesting and surely it has impact. _________________ Orio, Administrator
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mo
Joined: 27 Aug 2009 Posts: 8979 Location: Australia
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Posted: Tue May 08, 2012 1:49 am Post subject: |
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mo wrote:
I like it,keep persevering,experimenting with these panos. _________________ Moira, Moderator
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aspen
Joined: 15 Dec 2010 Posts: 307 Location: Maryland, USA
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Posted: Tue May 08, 2012 5:11 am Post subject: |
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aspen wrote:
Just today, I was giving some thought to doing this also, and some of your panos came to mind (was trying to remember the lens/focal length that you use). I think that this can be really quite a complex puzzle. I was thinking that I would try to change the in-focus area, slightly, through either stopping down (and hope the reciprocity of shutter speed matches), or changing the throw of the focus. It's a challenge!!! I like this first attempt of yours, for sure. _________________ Cameras; Sony Nex5n Lenses; Konica Hexanons; 21mm f2.8, 40mm f1,8, 50mm f1.4, 50mmf1.7,57mm f1.4, 100mm f2.8, 135mm f3.2, 200mm f4, MC Helios 77M-4 50mm f1.8, Jupiter 8 50 f2, Super Takumar 85mm f1.9, Vivitar Series 1 90mm f2.5 (Macro), Steinheil Munchen Culminar 85mm f2.8, Steinheil Munchen Exagon 35mm f2.8, Jupiter 37A 135mm, Astra Berlin 135mm f3.5, Angenieux 180mm f4 , Tair 3-PhS 300mm f4.5 |
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SonicScot
Joined: 01 Dec 2011 Posts: 2697 Location: Scottish Highlands
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Posted: Tue May 08, 2012 8:15 am Post subject: |
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SonicScot wrote:
I really like what you've done here, so much so that I'm going to copy the idea for myself!
I think creations like this deserve to be on 8 feet wide canvas, preferably attached to my wall. _________________ Gary
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poilu
Joined: 26 Aug 2007 Posts: 10472 Location: Greece
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Posted: Tue May 08, 2012 8:54 am Post subject: |
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poilu wrote:
mo wrote: |
I like it,keep persevering,experimenting with these panos. |
+1 _________________ T* |
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Alternate Internet ID
Joined: 30 Mar 2011 Posts: 253 Location: UK
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Posted: Tue May 08, 2012 12:08 pm Post subject: |
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Alternate Internet ID wrote:
Love it.
I find landscape photography quite dull and uninteresting unless it's absolutely amazing.
This however, looks absolutely brilliant. _________________
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Nesster
Joined: 24 Apr 2008 Posts: 5883 Location: NJ, USA
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Posted: Tue May 08, 2012 12:30 pm Post subject: |
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Nesster wrote:
The result is stunning!
I've tried this sort of thing, though I thought of it as 'recreating a mf/lf photo using aps-c' rather than as a panorama. And my results are nowhere as good as yours. _________________ -Jussi
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Nordentro
Joined: 24 Jun 2010 Posts: 4713 Location: Lillehammer, Norway
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Posted: Tue May 08, 2012 12:35 pm Post subject: |
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Nordentro wrote:
I think it's awesome, make's me wanne do some my self. _________________ Lars | Manuellfokus.no |
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patrickh
Joined: 23 Aug 2007 Posts: 8551 Location: Oregon
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Posted: Tue May 08, 2012 2:29 pm Post subject: |
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patrickh wrote:
Great Tobias
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Katastrofo
Joined: 26 Feb 2007 Posts: 10405 Location: USA
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Posted: Tue May 08, 2012 5:38 pm Post subject: |
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Katastrofo wrote:
I've always liked your lederhosen/alpenhorn pictures, the mountainscapes, but this has to be one of my
faves, Tobias! |
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tobbsman
Joined: 25 Jul 2008 Posts: 2578 Location: Austria
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Posted: Tue May 08, 2012 6:57 pm Post subject: |
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tobbsman wrote:
Many many thanks you all your C&C's !
Haven't expected so many positive comments, because I am myself
not sure about most of the sense of this "technique".
exactly same thoughts as skida come to my mind when I am editing these panoramas:
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When you started posting "bokeh panoramas", I thought
"What's the point of a great big wide picture if 95% of it
is out of focus?", but I ... |
Using this technique for panorama format
purposes has only sense when the background still shows
something interesting. With to blurry backgrounds one may think of
a "normal" ultra-wide-open shot, instead of a panoramic photograph.
With panorama photography one expects a lot and different image information.
A blurred background in a panorama and focus to one small subject doesn't fulfill this
expectation ...
I just think now that using this technique for panorama purposes enlarges
the possibilities in this genre but has to be executed in a way that
it still fulfills the definition of a panorama photograph.
(sorry, very difficult to describe my thoughts in English)
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I've always liked your lederhosen/alpenhorn pictures, the mountainscapes, but this has to be one of my
faves, Tobias! Cool |
Cheers
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Katastrofo
Joined: 26 Feb 2007 Posts: 10405 Location: USA
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Posted: Tue May 08, 2012 7:06 pm Post subject: |
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Katastrofo wrote:
I know this is the C&C section, but can't fault this picture at all. Would look positively grand
blown up large on a wall in your new home! |
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