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Spotmatic
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 Posted: Tue Mar 29, 2011 7:42 pm Post subject: Some KMZ Tair-11-2 (rare black M42 version) shots on 5D |
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| Posted: Tue Mar 29, 2011 8:10 pm Post subject: |
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pich900 wrote:
Shining shots Peter  ...I have the "Tair-11", do you know what's the difference with the 11-2 version? and what does KMZ mean  ?
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Spotmatic
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| Posted: Tue Mar 29, 2011 8:15 pm Post subject: |
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Spotmatic wrote:
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| Shining shots Peter ...I have the "Tair-11", do you know what's the difference with the 11-2 version? and what does KMZ mean ? |
Thanks Pascal. I guess you have the silver (and older) version of the same lens with M39 mount. Mine is all black and has a M42 mount. It was only made for a VERY short period of time. I've had 3 of them, all with very close serial numbers.
KMZ is the maker: Krasnogorski Mekhanicheskii Zavod, or Mechanical Factory of Krasnogorsk. The factory's logo:
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pich900
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| Posted: Tue Mar 29, 2011 8:35 pm Post subject: |
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pich900 wrote:
Ah ok, thanks for the info  ...
yes mine is indeed silver, M39 mount and with also the same factory's logo and above that the inscription : Grand Prix Brussels 1958_Made in USSR ....that's a shame that mine has the helicoid very stiff and quite difficult to use  ....
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Spotmatic
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| Posted: Tue Mar 29, 2011 8:41 pm Post subject: |
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Spotmatic wrote:
Well, unscrew the focusing ring (three-four screws If I remember correctly) and the ring slides off, exposing the helicoid underneath, which can then be cleaned and relubed
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pich900
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| Posted: Tue Mar 29, 2011 9:00 pm Post subject: |
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pich900 wrote:
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| Well, unscrew the focusing ring (three-four screws If I remember correctly) and the ring slides off, exposing the helicoid underneath, which can then be cleaned and relubed |
Heu Peter, what have you planned to do tomorow evening ???.....no joke of course..... but like you know, I have two left hands and I already try to dismount my biotar 58mm wich is now in two parts and not any more usable  ...so I don't want to try a second time this experience!!!!
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Spotmatic
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Spotmatic wrote:
You are welcome (if not too early)! And you can even pick up the *ist DS and Primoplan
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pich900
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| Posted: Tue Mar 29, 2011 9:18 pm Post subject: |
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pich900 wrote:
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| You are welcome (if not too early)! And you can even pick up the *ist DS and Primoplan |
Thanks Peter, very kind from you ....this week, I have unfortunatly not so much time but next week, it should be beter for me (at least, I hope so!)...if it's ok for you, let me know via e-mail wich day is the best for you ....
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ManualFocus-G wrote:
Lovely colours, sharpness, bokeh...everything! I've never seen this lens before 
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calvin83 wrote:
Stunning shoots
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Spotmatic
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Spotmatic wrote:
Thanks! The lens will be for sale soon as I have... two of them.
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djmike wrote:
stunning.
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Bogie wrote:
Yes, it's a great lens indeed (I have the black version as well). The results never fail to surprise me!
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tobbsman wrote:
Superb series, great lens.
The cat shot is very nice and the moody #3
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RenseH wrote:
(I don't want another 135mm, I don't want it, I don't really want it!)
Nice photos Peter!
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| (I don't want another 135mm, I don't want it, I don't really want it!) .......... |
I don't believe you! 
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| Posted: Fri Apr 15, 2011 3:44 pm Post subject: Tair 11-2 |
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kryss wrote:
Hi Peter I have an M42 Peerotar 135mm f2.8 20 blade,silver body which I believe is a rebadged Tair 11-2 and produces excellent shots and the Bokeh is outstanding,have you heard of this lens? Regards. |
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Spotmatic
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Spotmatic wrote:
Hi Kryss, can you please post a picture of the lens? If it's really a Tair-11-2 then it would immediately be very clear.
But... If it says "Made in Japan" anywhere on the lens then you can forget it being a Tair...
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adityap wrote:
Great pictures as always Peter
This is a very rare lens I believe? Never seen this on ebay  |
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Spotmatic
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| Posted: Fri Apr 15, 2011 3:59 pm Post subject: |
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Spotmatic wrote:
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Great pictures as always Peter
This is a very rare lens I believe? Never seen this on ebay |
Yes, it's rare, byt my second copy is up for sale in the MFLenses Marketplace
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kryss
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| Posted: Fri Apr 15, 2011 7:59 pm Post subject: Tair 11-2 |
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kryss wrote:
It certainly does not say made in Japan and I am just comparing pics of Tair with my lens looks similar.I posted a pic to Pentax forum but as usual can never find anything on that site once posted so I will take another shot and post it Regards |
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Spotmatic
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| Posted: Fri Apr 15, 2011 8:10 pm Post subject: |
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Spotmatic wrote:
I found it for you through Google. Fortunately your forum name there is the same 
To me it definitely looks Japanese. I have seen mentions of Fujita as the maker...
http://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/attachments/lens-clubs/60880d1272554225-135mm-lens-club-dscf1205-jpg
http://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/attachments/lens-clubs/60878d1272553327-135mm-lens-club-dscf1208-jpg
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My fast 80s: Asahi-Kogaku Takumar 83mm f/1.9 - Super-Takumar 85mm f/1.9 - FA 77mm f/1.8 Limited - Cyclop 85/1.5 (Helios-40 innards) - Komura 80mm f/1.8 - Meyer Görlitz Primoplan 7,5cm 1:1.9 - Carl Zeiss Jena 80mm f/1.8 Pancolar - Canon 85mm f/1.8 S.S.C. - Canon 85mm f/1.2 S.S.C. Aspherical |
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kryss
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| Posted: Fri Apr 15, 2011 8:41 pm Post subject: Tair 11-2 |
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kryss wrote:
WOW,that impresses me Peter because I can never find any thing on their search box,I believe it was Douglas of Sweden who informed it might be a Tair,even smells Russian, but it certainly a nice lens I paid about $90 and it is in beautiful condition produces very nice smooth Bokeh,I have 6 other 135mm f2.5/.8/.5 so Although I would like your Tair I have to resist as I just bought a mint Canon T90 with 100mm f2.8 macro +1/1 tube and a MR14X ringflash for $180 which I know I got a real bargain. |
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