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yinyangbt
Joined: 08 Oct 2010 Posts: 1973 Location: Romania
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Posted: Fri Nov 19, 2010 9:07 pm Post subject: Why do we shoot MF ? |
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yinyangbt wrote:
I came back to the MF lenses recently after a wandering trough the AF world .
I am curious why do you all use the manual focus lenses more that strictly occasional?
For me , there are mixed explanations .Of course the quality of the primes is one. I realised that I need small , unobtrusive lenses ( I was many times taken by some silly guys as a pro because of a cheap zoom).The price is important to me , in fact the quality/price ratio . I realised that ,as in many other fields of activity , there is a limit from where you have to pay too much for a too small increase in results .So , until now all my MF lenses are primes and I intend to go this way.
I need light lenses . I need fast lenses . And I need to stay in the limits of my pocket I know, there is allways the SYNDROME !!! _________________ Cheers , Teo
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stingOM
Joined: 27 Sep 2007 Posts: 3168 Location: Ireland
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Posted: Fri Nov 19, 2010 9:14 pm Post subject: |
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stingOM wrote:
I like MF lenses because of their built quality and as you have said you can obtain HQ IQ for a small price. Ofcourse this is not always true, but in most cases MF are bargains compared with AF equivalents.
For example
I feel MF lenses have a "soul" and character which you cannot get from handling modern plasticky lenses.
I kind of think of it like a owning and driving a classic car
There is only one problem - once you are bitten by the bug, you jst can't stop collecting...
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peterqd
Joined: 28 Feb 2007 Posts: 7448 Location: near High Wycombe, UK
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Posted: Fri Nov 19, 2010 9:41 pm Post subject: |
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peterqd wrote:
I could bang on about having to wait for AF lenses to hunt, or how annoying it is when they focus on the wrong thing. Actually, it's partly for the same reason I prefer manual gearboxes - I like to be in control. and partly for the same reason I like steam trains and old cars, they're simply more fun. _________________ Peter - Moderator |
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Bruce
Joined: 15 Jan 2008 Posts: 842 Location: Boston, Ma USA
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Posted: Fri Nov 19, 2010 9:42 pm Post subject: |
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Bruce wrote:
I like my eyes in sharp focus! _________________ Digital: Canon 40d & 5DmkII, Film: Hasselblad 203fe/Zeiss 80/2.8 cfe
Adapters for EOS: Cy; M42; Zenit39; Exakta; LeicaR; OlympusOM; PK; Nikon; Rollei35; Retina; Adaptal; P-6 |
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Attila
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 57865 Location: Hungary
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Posted: Fri Nov 19, 2010 10:02 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
I did start to buy them because they were lot cheaper and lot better than budget AF lenses. Now I have some expensive one what is not cheaper at all. Quality at least same than AF lenses or even better + I enjoy to hold rarities what we can't buy every day in shops. I am also amazed how old they are and how good. An MF lens will work always in my life on future generation of cameras , an AF lens works with actual system only. We had many samples how lost values of lenses when makers switched to next mount Canon FD, EF etc. For most of us pretty high sum to buy lenses what is cover all focal lengths , quiet luxury to throw them out within 10 yrs. _________________ -------------------------------
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dsmlogger
Joined: 14 Apr 2010 Posts: 178 Location: Athens, Greece
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Posted: Fri Nov 19, 2010 10:11 pm Post subject: Re: Why do we shoot MF ? |
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dsmlogger wrote:
yinyangbt wrote: |
I came back to the MF lenses recently after a wandering trough the AF world .
I am curious why do you all use the manual focus lenses more that strictly occasional?
For me , there are mixed explanations .Of course the quality of the primes is one. I realised that I need small , unobtrusive lenses ( I was many times taken by some silly guys as a pro because of a cheap zoom).The price is important to me , in fact the quality/price ratio . I realised that ,as in many other fields of activity , there is a limit from where you have to pay too much for a too small increase in results .So , until now all my MF lenses are primes and I intend to go this way.
I need light lenses . I need fast lenses . And I need to stay in the limits of my pocket I know, there is allways the SYNDROME !!! |
There are many reasons to like or, dare I say, prefer manual focus lenses rather than auto focus.
Cost is of course one of them. But that's not always the case. There are many old lenses out there that are (or have become) very expensive.
Also, the cost isn't the key factor after a while. After you gain some experience with MF and have acquired many MF lenses, why do you keep "hunting" them even in focal lenghts and apertures you already have lenses for?
You learn to appeciate them and the creative freedom they can give.
I've personally spent more money on MF lenses rather than AF.
Sure, I own many more MF lenses than AF ones, but why?
Why when I purchased Zuiko 50mm f1.4 did I also buy Tessar 50mm f2.8? Or Pentacon 50mm 1.8? Or other lenses of the same focal length and bigger aperture?
Differentiation.
Characteristics and details that make one lens notably different from each other. Differences that leave their mark on every photo and distinguish it from any other.
Modern AF lenses are all about sharpness. They are practically the same. One is a tad sharper than the other, the vignetting may be a little more on one and less on the other, one has a more silent AF motor than the other and other -strictly- technical stuff like that...
Where is the "character" as we are used to say?
Where is the "creamy" or "swirly" bokeh?
Where is that distinguisable difference that will make the same photo actually different if shot with a different lens?
That is what is all about!
If all we cared for was cost and money, we wouldn't own 10-20-30 or more lenses.
Why would probably only own 1 or 2 or 3 max. just to complement the range of our AF lenses.
Maybe a portrait lens or a fast telephoto and end of story.
But entering the world of MF lenses is another -huge and wonderful- story.... |
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fatdeeman
Joined: 13 Jun 2009 Posts: 780 Location: UK
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Posted: Fri Nov 19, 2010 10:50 pm Post subject: |
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fatdeeman wrote:
I use them because:
It can be as expensive or cheap as you like, there are some real bargains to be had even now that more people are buying old lenses you can still gamble a few £ and sometimes get a nice surprise!
Variety: If you want a Canon AF 28mm prime you have only a few options but if you buy an old mf lens there are probably at least 50 different lenses you could try and each one will be different and have a unique character! I really enjoy using a variety of lenses even ones I know are not the greatest. I enjoy using them because it's a challenge to try and get the best out of them and you can shoot the same subjects and compare how different lenses render the same things etc
Improves traditional skills: I think using manual focus lenses helps to maintain and improve some of the more fundamental skills involved in photography and also improves the physical bond between camera and user, because the process takes a bit longer I find I concentrate more and even my composition seems to have improved since using manual lenses, probably because I use primes more and don't always have the luxury of zooming! _________________ - Dave
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Mirrorless: Panasonic DMC-G1, Sony NEX-5N
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Standard: Industar 50-2, Helios 44-2, Helios 44M, Helios 44M-3, Pentax-M 50mm F/1.4, Pentax-M 50mm F/1.7, Pentax-M 50mm F/2, Ricoh 50mm F/1.7, Chinon 50mm F/1.7
Tele: Pentacon 135mm F/2.8, Pentacon 200mm F/3.5, Optomax 200mm f/3.5, Sun Optical 135mm F/3.5, Soligor 350mm F/5.6
Zoom: Tokina 28-70mm f/3.5-4.5 SZ-X270 SD, Sigma Zoom Pi 35-200mm F4-5.6, Sun Optical 28-80mm F/3.5-4.5, Sunagor 80-205mm F/3.8, Tokina RMC 80-200mm F/4, Vivitar 70-150mm F/3.8, Tamron 95-205mm F/6.3, Tamron Adaptall 28-200mm F/3.8-5.6 LD Aspherical, Tokina RMC 70-210mm F/3.5
Mirror: Falcon (Samyang) 800mm F/8, MTO-11CA 1000mm F/10, Tamron Adaptall 2 500mm F/8
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Excalibur
Joined: 19 Jul 2009 Posts: 5017 Location: UK
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Posted: Fri Nov 19, 2010 11:00 pm Post subject: |
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Excalibur wrote:
****Why do we shoot MF ?***
erm it's natural for me as I'm still using old film cameras _________________ Canon A1, AV1, T70 & T90, EOS 300 and EOS300v, Chinon CE and CP-7M. Contax 139, Fuji STX-2, Konica Autoreflex TC, FS-1, FT-1, Minolta X-700, X-300, XD-11, SRT101b, Nikon EM, FM, F4, F90X, Olympus OM2, Pentax S3, Spotmatic, Pentax ME super, Praktica TL 5B, & BC1, , Ricoh KR10super, Yashica T5D, Bronica Etrs, Mamiya RB67 pro AND drum roll:- a Sony Nex 3
.........past gear Tele Rolleiflex and Rollei SL66.
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magkelly
Joined: 06 Jul 2010 Posts: 182
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Posted: Fri Nov 19, 2010 11:08 pm Post subject: |
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magkelly wrote:
I like my manual lenses because as it turns out I'm a complete control freak when it comes to taking pictures on any camera, even apparently including those taken with my DSLR. I've discovered I like to be the one to decide what settings to use. AF cameras and AF lenses just get in my way. If I really wanted AF to be in control I'd still be using a point and shoot camera like my Fuji.
AF limits my creativity. Worse yet, it makes me lazy. Using manual lenses forces me to think my shots ALL the way through and when I do that I end up ultimately taking better pictures. It's ironic, but nonetheless true. AF is supposed to make it easy to take the perfect shot. Maybe for some that's so, but it's just not for me.
I think I knew about half an hour into my first session with my Tamron that the AF lens just wasn't doing me any good in terms of my learning to be a better photographer. It was far too easy to lean on the AF and the auto modes in the camera.
Taking 1000 photographs every time I shoot and keeping the 50 or so that look maybe look half decent is not my idea of good photography. Taking 100 pics and keeping 85% of them because they are excellent photos, that is.
I don't want random luck and a technological wonder of a digital lens ultimately dictating how my work as a photographer ends up. I want to be able to look for my subject, properly set up the camera for the situation, and shoot knowing that I have the ability to do the job the right way without leaning quite so hard on the crutch of technology.
Being able to take photographs sans film developing costs most of the time is very handy. But I don't want it to become too easy for me to go out there and shoot 10GB's worth of memory cards without hardly even thinking about it. That's not going to make me a better photographer. It's just going to make it easier for me to take bad pictures. |
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estudleon
Joined: 15 May 2008 Posts: 3754 Location: Argentina
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Posted: Fri Nov 19, 2010 11:50 pm Post subject: |
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estudleon wrote:
i use MF lenses because:
1- Use only film camera.
2. I think that the mediums are the art too.
3. I love manual tools.
4. I like to focus where I want, so manual focus lenses for me.
5. I like the MF lenses, the metal, the glass. _________________ Konica 2,8/100
CZJ: 4/20, 2,4/35, 1,8/50 aus jena, 3,5/135MC, Pentacon 1,8/50
Pentax S-M-C-1,4/50
Helios 44-3
Mamiya 2,8/135
Misc. : jupiter 9
Stuff used:
A) SRL
Alpa 10 D - kern macro Switar 1,9/50 -black, Kilffit apochromat 2/100.
Asahi pentax spotmatic super takumar 1,4/50
Contaflex super B tessar 2,8/50 Pro-tessar 115
Leica R3 electronic summicron 2/50 elmarit 2,8/35
Konica Autoreflex 3 (2 black and chrome one), TC, T4. 2,8/24, 3,5/28 not MC and MC, 1,8/40, 1,4/50, 1,7/50 MC and not MC, 1,8/85, 3,2/135, 3,5/135, 4/200
Minolta XG9 2,8/35, 2/45, 3,5/135
Nikkormat FTn 1,4/50, 2,8/135
Fujica ST 801, 605, 705n. 3,5/19, 1,4/50, 1,8/55, 4/85, 3,5/135.
Praktica MTL 5 and a lot of M42 lenses.
Voigtlander. Bessamatic m, bessamatix de luxe, bessamatic cs, ultramatic and ultramatic cs.
Skoparex 3,5/35, skopagon 2/40, skopar 2,8/50, skopar X 2,8/50, super lanthar (out of catalogue) 2,8/50, dinarex 3,4/90, dinarex 4,8/100, super dinarex 4/135, super dinarex 4/200, zoomar 2,8/36-83, portrait lens 0, 1 and 2. Curtagon 4/28 and 2,8/35
Canon AV1, 1,8/50
Rolleiflex SL35 and SL35 E. 2,8/35 angulon, 2,8/35 distagon, 1,4/55 rolleinar, 1,8/50 planar, 4/135 tessar, 2,8/135 rolleinar, x2 rollei, M42 to rollei adap.
Etc.
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Voightlander Vito, vitomatic I, Vito C, etc.
Leica M. M2, M3 (d.s.) and M4. Schenider 3,4/21, 2/35 summaron 2,8/35 (with eyes). Summicron 2/35 (8 elements with eyes), 2/35 chrome, 2/35 black, 1,4/35 pre asph and aspheric - old -, 2/40 summicron, 2,8/50 elmar, 2/50 7 elements, 2/50 DR, 2/50 - minolta version, 1,4/50 summilux 1966 version, 1,4/75 summilux, 2/90 large version, 2/90 reduced version of 1987, 2,8/90 elmarit large version, 4/135 elmar. |
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Lloydy
Joined: 02 Sep 2009 Posts: 7796 Location: Ironbridge. UK.
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Posted: Fri Nov 19, 2010 11:52 pm Post subject: |
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Lloydy wrote:
It makes me think about what I'm doing. _________________ LENSES & CAMERAS FOR SALE.....
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Farside
Joined: 01 Sep 2007 Posts: 6557 Location: Ireland
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Posted: Sat Nov 20, 2010 12:15 am Post subject: |
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Farside wrote:
I like proper control. AF is useful sometimes, but other times it gets it wrong. I prefer being able to pick and choose and shoot, without the lens hunting for focus.
I have a total of four AF lenses - two for the Canon, two for the Pentax and I rarely use them. _________________ Dave - Moderator
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Nordentro
Joined: 24 Jun 2010 Posts: 4713 Location: Lillehammer, Norway
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Posted: Sat Nov 20, 2010 12:26 am Post subject: |
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Nordentro wrote:
I like mf lenses because I feel like not waisting money on a AF lens that most likely will drop in price. Mf lenses is more of an investment
Mf lenses have interesting stories to tell and they have overall better build quality.
I like the design of the lenses, some of them are pieces of art in my opinion.
I like the big differences in how they draw the bokeh, contrast and sharpness.
And most important, I like the feeling of doing the adjustments myself and not just being the guy who pushed the button.
And I like to see the faces on people when I walk around with a shiny unusual lens. Every house has a DSRL these days, but almost none have seen the setup I use _________________ Lars | Manuellfokus.no |
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estudleon
Joined: 15 May 2008 Posts: 3754 Location: Argentina
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Posted: Sat Nov 20, 2010 1:56 am Post subject: |
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estudleon wrote:
Nordentro wrote: |
I like the design of the lenses, some of them are pieces of art in my opinion.
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Without any doubt. _________________ Konica 2,8/100
CZJ: 4/20, 2,4/35, 1,8/50 aus jena, 3,5/135MC, Pentacon 1,8/50
Pentax S-M-C-1,4/50
Helios 44-3
Mamiya 2,8/135
Misc. : jupiter 9
Stuff used:
A) SRL
Alpa 10 D - kern macro Switar 1,9/50 -black, Kilffit apochromat 2/100.
Asahi pentax spotmatic super takumar 1,4/50
Contaflex super B tessar 2,8/50 Pro-tessar 115
Leica R3 electronic summicron 2/50 elmarit 2,8/35
Konica Autoreflex 3 (2 black and chrome one), TC, T4. 2,8/24, 3,5/28 not MC and MC, 1,8/40, 1,4/50, 1,7/50 MC and not MC, 1,8/85, 3,2/135, 3,5/135, 4/200
Minolta XG9 2,8/35, 2/45, 3,5/135
Nikkormat FTn 1,4/50, 2,8/135
Fujica ST 801, 605, 705n. 3,5/19, 1,4/50, 1,8/55, 4/85, 3,5/135.
Praktica MTL 5 and a lot of M42 lenses.
Voigtlander. Bessamatic m, bessamatix de luxe, bessamatic cs, ultramatic and ultramatic cs.
Skoparex 3,5/35, skopagon 2/40, skopar 2,8/50, skopar X 2,8/50, super lanthar (out of catalogue) 2,8/50, dinarex 3,4/90, dinarex 4,8/100, super dinarex 4/135, super dinarex 4/200, zoomar 2,8/36-83, portrait lens 0, 1 and 2. Curtagon 4/28 and 2,8/35
Canon AV1, 1,8/50
Rolleiflex SL35 and SL35 E. 2,8/35 angulon, 2,8/35 distagon, 1,4/55 rolleinar, 1,8/50 planar, 4/135 tessar, 2,8/135 rolleinar, x2 rollei, M42 to rollei adap.
Etc.
RF
Yashica Minister III
Voightlander Vito, vitomatic I, Vito C, etc.
Leica M. M2, M3 (d.s.) and M4. Schenider 3,4/21, 2/35 summaron 2,8/35 (with eyes). Summicron 2/35 (8 elements with eyes), 2/35 chrome, 2/35 black, 1,4/35 pre asph and aspheric - old -, 2/40 summicron, 2,8/50 elmar, 2/50 7 elements, 2/50 DR, 2/50 - minolta version, 1,4/50 summilux 1966 version, 1,4/75 summilux, 2/90 large version, 2/90 reduced version of 1987, 2,8/90 elmarit large version, 4/135 elmar. |
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caspert79
Joined: 31 Oct 2010 Posts: 3225 Location: The Netherlands
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Posted: Sat Nov 20, 2010 2:08 am Post subject: |
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caspert79 wrote:
I like metal, I like glass, I like mechanics, I like MF. |
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gaeger
Joined: 16 Jan 2010 Posts: 722 Location: Brier, Wash.
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gaeger wrote:
We are curmudgeons. _________________ "Here's to the wonder" -- Alan Boyle
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marty
Joined: 09 Apr 2009 Posts: 767 Location: Italy
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marty wrote:
Nordentro wrote: |
I like the design of the lenses, some of them are pieces of art in my opinion |
caspert79 wrote: |
I like metal, I like glass, I like mechanics, I like MF. |
Besides that they're all what I have .
Cheers, M. _________________ Canon FD
Bodies: AT-1, A-1, T-90
Lenses: nFD 20mm f2.8, 24 f2.8, 28 f2.8, 35 f2, FD 50 f1.8 S.C., 85 f1.8, 100 f2.8, 135 f2.8, 200 f4, 300 f4
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Orio
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 29545 Location: West Emilia
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Posted: Sat Nov 20, 2010 4:11 am Post subject: |
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Orio wrote:
It's very simple:
- optical quality
(to have same optical quality in AF lenses you need to spend a fortune, and in several cases, even the best AF lens would not equal the optical performance of the best MF lenses)
- build quality
(lenses build of metal and not plastic)
- precision
(autofocus is often as imprecise as my manual focusing - and to focus an AF lens manually is often impossible due to poor focusing ring precision)
- image quality
(MF lenses -not all, some of them- have an edge even over the best AF lenses)
- they help create my own style
(with the combination of my select manual lenses, Canon DSLR, and personal vision, I can shape my own style with more personality than people who all use the same AF lenses that all look the same) _________________ Orio, Administrator
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Laurentiu Cristofor
Joined: 23 Oct 2010 Posts: 524 Location: WA, USA
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Posted: Sat Nov 20, 2010 8:01 am Post subject: |
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Laurentiu Cristofor wrote:
I often shoot at wide apertures and MF lets me concentrate on the entire frame while focusing. With AF, I have to select AF points and work on keeping them over what I want to focus on - I find shooting to be more restrictive that way and I think it takes away all the fun.
For some scenarios, AF may be more convenient, so it depends on what you're shooting too. But so far, MF is more suited to what I do.
Regarding lower price, while a MF lens may be easier to manufacture or may be cheaper because it's old, it is also much better suited to MF than an AF one. There are lenses I avoided buying because they are AF and their focus throw is so small that I would not be able to MF them effectively. So far, my most expensive lens is a MF one.
BTW, this article from Zeiss about MF on AF cameras is a nice read: http://www.zeiss.com/c12567a8003b58b9/Contents-Frame/c6170ceb7ba94758c12575de0038f1e5 _________________ http://www.ipernity.com/home/2419272
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Swappo
Joined: 02 Apr 2009 Posts: 327 Location: Sweden
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Swappo wrote:
I shot MF because I can.
And the lenses of my main interest (and wallet) don't have AF. |
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djmike
Joined: 01 Apr 2009 Posts: 930 Location: Taiwan
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djmike wrote:
Using MF is philosophic --- think well before you act!! Light metering, DOF deciding, compositing and click. _________________
DSLR: Canon 400D
SLR: Nikon FM2 + Canon A-1 + Canon AE1-P + Praktica MTL-5B + Pentax Spotmatic F + Fujica ST801 + Voigtlander Bassematic + Voigtlander Vito + Rollei 35S + Rolleiflex SL35 ME + Canon QL17 GIII + Olympus Pen EE-3
Lenses
M42: CZJ Flektogon 35/2.4 + CZJ Flektogon Zebra 35/2.8 + CZJ Pancolar 50/1.8 + CZJ Sonnar 135/3.5 + CZJ Tessar 50/2.8 Chrome + Pentacon 135/2.8 + Pentacon 50/1.8 + SMC Takumar 50/1.4 + SMC Takumar 55/2 + SMC Takumar 135/3.5 + Fujinon 55/1.8 + Jupiter-9 85/2 + Jupiter-37A 135/3.5 + Helios 44-6 58/2
Nikor: Nikkor 50/1.4 + Nikkor 28/3.5 + Nikkor 35-105 Zoom + 36-72 Series E Zoom
Canon: Canon FD + 28/2.8 + 50/1.8 + Canon 35-105 Macro Zoom
Other: Rollei Planar HFT 50/1.8
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NikonD
Joined: 29 Jul 2008 Posts: 1922 Location: Slovenija
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NikonD wrote:
build quality, image quality... a joy to use and sure to last another 30 years... |
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Big Dawg
Joined: 28 Jan 2009 Posts: 2530 Location: Thach Alabama
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Big Dawg wrote:
Because when you hold one in your hand you can feel the quality of the design and the materials used to make it. The Craftsmanship is there to feel and see....even with the cheaper MF lens.
Most AF lens feel like a cheap Child's toy. Plastic and disposable.
MF lens feel like an Adult's Tool. Designed for serious business and a long life. _________________ Big Dawg |
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LucisPictor
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Posted: Sun Nov 21, 2010 5:43 pm Post subject: |
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LucisPictor wrote:
Everything has been said.
Above all, it's great fun to use old gear on modern DSLRs and to make the other people (the "ignorami" ) look.
(It's also fun to use those lenses on old film SLRs. ) _________________ Personal forum activity on pause every now and again (due to job obligations)!
Carsten, former Moderator
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Ash
Joined: 12 Mar 2010 Posts: 185 Location: Evanston, il, usa
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Posted: Mon Nov 22, 2010 7:05 am Post subject: |
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Ash wrote:
I like fast lenses at reasonable prices ! |
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