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PostPosted: Mon Feb 22, 2010 1:08 am    Post subject: The food wagon crew Reply with quote
This is the wagon (as captured by the Elmarit-R 35):



And this is the crew - which is also the occasion for introducing to you my new lens, a Planar 1.2/85, which I found at a very good price thanks to a cleaning mark
on the front glass which luckily does not affect the performance visibly - but allowed me to save a lot of money !

Selene:




a crop:




Guy at the grill (unknown name).
Big focus miss here, only visible at small size:




Left to right: Yasmine, younger sister (unknown name), Selene:




crop (focus perfect here, yippie!):




Maverick, the cousin:




crop (sorry, a bit of motion blur here Sad - and high noise due to exposure recovery):



PostPosted: Mon Feb 22, 2010 1:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Hey great results! Congrats for your new gem!!


PostPosted: Mon Feb 22, 2010 1:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Attila wrote:
Hey great results! Congrats for your new gem!!


Thanks, long desired lens (4 years desired lens !) Smile


PostPosted: Mon Feb 22, 2010 1:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Love the eyes on the last one...very friendly people Orio....I do like the police with the hands in the belt and such a lovely smile Very Happy Very Happy You capture the emotion and the characters well.


PostPosted: Mon Feb 22, 2010 2:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Mo-Fo wrote:
Love the eyes on the last one...very friendly people Orio....I do like the police with the hands in the belt and such a lovely smile Very Happy Very Happy


Yes, very relaxed atmosphere here Very Happy
Those police guys tried to enter in every photo that I was making there Laughing Rolling Eyes they finally managed Rolling Eyes

Mo-Fo wrote:
You capture the emotion and the characters well.


Thanks! This is a big compliment, thank you !!

Actually, it's the best compliment I ever received here. I'm so happy because what you said, it is my goal. Thanks again!


PostPosted: Mon Feb 22, 2010 2:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Congrats on the Planar! Looks like a very happy place to work with all
the smiles and antics: emotion + atmosphere. The one girl with the
double peace sign fingers looks more Russian than Italian, of course,
this is northern Italy, too. I'm struck by their lighter complexions (and
Sophia, you are still beautiful, OK? Laughing )

Forgot to add, you can't beat how Zeiss does color.


PostPosted: Mon Feb 22, 2010 5:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
What a superb lens and a masterly presentation of your favourite "scenes", featuring people. Thanks Orio


patrickh


PostPosted: Mon Feb 22, 2010 7:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
congrats for your dream lens
I will change forum, too much 85:1.2 for my heart Mad cry


PostPosted: Mon Feb 22, 2010 8:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Hey please ask if Selene is dating someone Smile


PostPosted: Mon Feb 22, 2010 8:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Very nice captures! And of course it's good to see a little bit of Holland in Italy, even though Heineken isn't that good of a beer Laughing


PostPosted: Mon Feb 22, 2010 10:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Katastrofo wrote:
Congrats on the Planar! Looks like a very happy place to work with all
the smiles and antics: emotion + atmosphere. The one girl with the
double peace sign fingers looks more Russian than Italian, of course,
this is northern Italy, too. I'm struck by their lighter complexions (and
Sophia, you are still beautiful, OK? Laughing )


Thanks Bill. Native people here looks much different from the Southern look that you usually associate with Italian.
The food wagon family is native of a small village near Parma.
About Sofia Loren, she is the age of my mother Shocked 76! Laughing
If you like the Mediterranean beauty, it's time to update your references Laughing
search for Monica Bellucci and Manuela Arcuri Wink


PostPosted: Mon Feb 22, 2010 10:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
poilu wrote:
congrats for your dream lens
I will change forum, too much 85:1.2 for my heart Mad cry


poilu, to speak sincerely, after having used this lens a bit, I don't see all that practical advantage in a f1.2/85 over a f1.4/85
ok it's a half stop more but with today's digital cameras good high ISO performance, that extra half stop isn't that needed anymore.

The 1.2 Planar gives a very different look than the 1.4
It has smoother bokeh and lower contrast, it looks more like a Japanese lens than German, if you know what I mean.
I'm sure that Canon people and Takumar people would love it because it creates images very Canon/Pentax like.
I think I personally still prefer the classic 1.4 Planar look.

One thing where this lens has a definite edge over the 1.4 is sharpness.
The 1.2 is unbelievably sharp, it cuts your eyes.
Also like Bill noticed, colour rendition is very natural.

I'm not keen on bokeh games so I won't use the f 1.2 much, but it's nice to know it's there if needed.

But overall, to speak sincerely, I don't think this lens is worth the huge amount of money it is usually sold for.

I got mine for about 1000 Euros less than the normal used price of this lens. If I had to buy it again I'm not sure I would, it was a bit of a craziness,
given how I am happy with the 1.4 Planar. I was afraid to miss that occasion because I know there will not be one more with that price for a long time.
For sure I would never spend that extra 1000 Euros in any case.


PostPosted: Mon Feb 22, 2010 10:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Spotmatic wrote:
Very nice captures! And of course it's good to see a little bit of Holland in Italy, even though Heineken isn't that good of a beer Laughing


Yeah, I am sure you have a lot of better beers there than Heineken.
Unfortunately what goes to foreign, in case of food, is the big brands, not the small brands which usually mean better quality.
This is a bit true everywhere.
So to taste real Holland beer I will have to go to Amsterdam
(been there but only in the airport)

Heineken can beer tastes like aluminium, it terrible Sad
Also I think that the one that is sold here it's not even made in Holland, I think it's made by a local factory which works on behalf of Heineken.
(same as Coca Cola)


PostPosted: Mon Feb 22, 2010 11:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Please name some better beer brands, beer freak here Smile


PostPosted: Mon Feb 22, 2010 3:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Planar 1.2/85 ??? Orio -- wow!!!

Congrats to your new lens -- this is a dream lens for sure!!

@ poilu -- stay tuned please!!! Smile it's only lens! Wink )

tf


PostPosted: Mon Feb 22, 2010 4:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
trifox wrote:
Planar 1.2/85 ??? Orio -- wow!!!

Congrats to your new lens -- this is a dream lens for sure!!

@ poilu -- stay tuned please!!! Smile it's only lens! Wink )

tf

maybe only a lens, but have you seen how Carlsson make it sing Very Happy


PostPosted: Mon Feb 22, 2010 4:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
It's not the perfect lens however.
It has more lateral CA than the 1.4/85 and differently from the 1.4, you can not shoot it without a hood - in spite of the T* coating, the huge sized front glass makes you pay the due in that respect.


PostPosted: Mon Feb 22, 2010 5:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
No lens is perfect Smile
But I have to say that my copy seems to be different in regards of CA, perhaps a difference between the "50" and "60 Years" edition, or a misaligned element, I don't know.


PostPosted: Mon Feb 22, 2010 5:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
@Orio, very, very nice presentation and quality! Beautiful people and scene captured beautifully!

re: Heiniken is good lager (in bottles only) but difficult to find fresh. Lager must be stored cold, at 5C or less and not frozen, otherwise quickly develops bad skunky smell and taste. Fresh Heiniken is delicious!


PostPosted: Tue Feb 23, 2010 1:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Orio wrote:

Thanks Bill. Native people here looks much different from the Southern look that you usually associate with Italian.
The food wagon family is native of a small village near Parma.
About Sofia Loren, she is the age of my mother Shocked 76! Laughing
If you like the Mediterranean beauty, it's time to update your references Laughing
search for Monica Bellucci and Manuela Arcuri Wink


Well of course I know of Monica Bellucci (who doesn't?lol) but will have
to Google Manuela Arcuri. Wink

I still enjoy old Loren movies, watched El Cid recently (oh yeah, Charlton
Heston was in that movie, too, wasn't he. lol)


PostPosted: Tue Feb 23, 2010 1:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Katastrofo wrote:
will have
to Google Manuela Arcuri. Wink


She has a couple of very convincing arguments to support her position Laughing


PostPosted: Tue Feb 23, 2010 1:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Orio wrote:
Katastrofo wrote:
will have
to Google Manuela Arcuri. Wink


She has a couple of very convincing arguments to support her position Laughing


OK, it's time for me to Goggle, I mean Google. Laughing

Yes, I see what you mean. Wink


PostPosted: Tue Mar 09, 2010 2:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
I have had professionally printed at medium size (20x30 cm) some of the photos here, plus some older ones, which I have to give to the food wagon owner.

I have to say - wow! - the 5D and 5DII images + my Contax lenses make simply perfect prints! Shocked I did not expect them SO good. Totally smooth (with regards to noise) and totally sharp (with regards to detail) at 20x30 cm. And mostly, alive and brilliant - just like looking at the monitor!

The king of printed performance is the Planar 1.2/85. The portrait of the three girls jumps out of the paper, in spite of the rather crappy neon lighting.
3D effect where I did not expect to see one! Shocked

I think I will have happy customers Very Happy


PostPosted: Tue Mar 09, 2010 10:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Glad to hear, I have to print some of my carnaval images too! Smile

I started my digital printing few weeks ago and yes, it's a complete different thing, seeing the image on the monitor or as a final print.
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