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Orio
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Posted: Mon Feb 22, 2010 1:08 am Post subject: The food wagon crew |
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Orio wrote:
This is the wagon (as captured by the Elmarit-R 35):
And this is the crew - which is also the occasion for introducing to you my new lens, a Planar 1.2/85, which I found at a very good price thanks to a cleaning mark
on the front glass which luckily does not affect the performance visibly - but allowed me to save a lot of money !
Selene:
a crop:
Guy at the grill (unknown name).
Big focus miss here, only visible at small size:
Left to right: Yasmine, younger sister (unknown name), Selene:
crop (focus perfect here, yippie!):
Maverick, the cousin:
crop (sorry, a bit of motion blur here - and high noise due to exposure recovery):
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Attila
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 57865 Location: Hungary
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Posted: Mon Feb 22, 2010 1:26 am Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
Hey great results! Congrats for your new gem!! _________________ -------------------------------
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Sony NEX-7 Carl Zeiss Planar 85mm f1.4, Minolta MD 35mm f1.8, Konica 135mm f2.5, Minolta MD 50mm f1.2, Minolta MD 250mm f5.6, Carl Zeiss Sonnar 180mm f2.8
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Orio
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Posted: Mon Feb 22, 2010 1:28 am Post subject: |
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Orio wrote:
Attila wrote: |
Hey great results! Congrats for your new gem!! |
Thanks, long desired lens (4 years desired lens !) _________________ Orio, Administrator
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mo
Joined: 27 Aug 2009 Posts: 8979 Location: Australia
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Posted: Mon Feb 22, 2010 1:52 am Post subject: |
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mo wrote:
Love the eyes on the last one...very friendly people Orio....I do like the police with the hands in the belt and such a lovely smile You capture the emotion and the characters well. _________________ Moira, Moderator
Fuji XE-1,Pentax K-01,Panasonic G1,Panasonic G5,Pentax MX
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Orio
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 29545 Location: West Emilia
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Posted: Mon Feb 22, 2010 2:10 am Post subject: |
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Orio wrote:
Mo-Fo wrote: |
Love the eyes on the last one...very friendly people Orio....I do like the police with the hands in the belt and such a lovely smile |
Yes, very relaxed atmosphere here
Those police guys tried to enter in every photo that I was making there they finally managed
Mo-Fo wrote: |
You capture the emotion and the characters well. |
Thanks! This is a big compliment, thank you !!
Actually, it's the best compliment I ever received here. I'm so happy because what you said, it is my goal. Thanks again! _________________ Orio, Administrator
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Katastrofo
Joined: 26 Feb 2007 Posts: 10405 Location: USA
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Posted: Mon Feb 22, 2010 2:43 am Post subject: |
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Katastrofo wrote:
Congrats on the Planar! Looks like a very happy place to work with all
the smiles and antics: emotion + atmosphere. The one girl with the
double peace sign fingers looks more Russian than Italian, of course,
this is northern Italy, too. I'm struck by their lighter complexions (and
Sophia, you are still beautiful, OK? )
Forgot to add, you can't beat how Zeiss does color. |
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patrickh
Joined: 23 Aug 2007 Posts: 8551 Location: Oregon
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Posted: Mon Feb 22, 2010 5:40 am Post subject: |
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patrickh wrote:
What a superb lens and a masterly presentation of your favourite "scenes", featuring people. Thanks Orio
patrickh _________________ DSLR: Nikon D300 Nikon D200 Nex 5N
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poilu
Joined: 26 Aug 2007 Posts: 10471 Location: Greece
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Posted: Mon Feb 22, 2010 7:27 am Post subject: |
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poilu wrote:
congrats for your dream lens
I will change forum, too much 85:1.2 for my heart cry _________________ T* |
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Tharos
Joined: 03 Nov 2009 Posts: 322 Location: Istanbul/TURKEY
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Posted: Mon Feb 22, 2010 8:25 am Post subject: |
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Tharos wrote:
Hey please ask if Selene is dating someone _________________ Camera : Yashica Electro 35 GS, Canon 450D, Konica C35 AF
28mm : Asahi Pentax SMC Takumar F3.5, Yashica ML F2.8
35mm : Distagon F2.8 (soon)
50mm : Carl Zeiss Jena Tessar F2,8 // aus Jena Pancolar F1.8 // SMC Tak F1.4 // Planar F1.7
55mm : Auto-Rikenon F1.8
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Spotmatic
Joined: 18 Aug 2008 Posts: 4045 Location: Netherlands
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Posted: Mon Feb 22, 2010 8:49 am Post subject: |
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Spotmatic wrote:
Very nice captures! And of course it's good to see a little bit of Holland in Italy, even though Heineken isn't that good of a beer _________________ Peter - Moderator
Pentax K-5 + Pentax 645 + Canon 5D + Bessa RF 10,5cm Heliar, and a 'little' bag full of MF lenses. The lens list is * here *.
My fast 80s: Asahi-Kogaku Takumar 83mm f/1.9 - Super-Takumar 85mm f/1.9 - FA 77mm f/1.8 Limited - Cyclop 85/1.5 (Helios-40 innards) - Komura 80mm f/1.8 - Meyer Görlitz Primoplan 7,5cm 1:1.9 - Carl Zeiss Jena 80mm f/1.8 Pancolar - Canon 85mm f/1.8 S.S.C. - Canon 85mm f/1.2 S.S.C. Aspherical |
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Orio
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 29545 Location: West Emilia
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Posted: Mon Feb 22, 2010 10:02 am Post subject: |
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Orio wrote:
Katastrofo wrote: |
Congrats on the Planar! Looks like a very happy place to work with all
the smiles and antics: emotion + atmosphere. The one girl with the
double peace sign fingers looks more Russian than Italian, of course,
this is northern Italy, too. I'm struck by their lighter complexions (and
Sophia, you are still beautiful, OK? ) |
Thanks Bill. Native people here looks much different from the Southern look that you usually associate with Italian.
The food wagon family is native of a small village near Parma.
About Sofia Loren, she is the age of my mother 76!
If you like the Mediterranean beauty, it's time to update your references
search for Monica Bellucci and Manuela Arcuri _________________ Orio, Administrator
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Orio
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Posted: Mon Feb 22, 2010 10:11 am Post subject: |
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Orio wrote:
poilu wrote: |
congrats for your dream lens
I will change forum, too much 85:1.2 for my heart cry |
poilu, to speak sincerely, after having used this lens a bit, I don't see all that practical advantage in a f1.2/85 over a f1.4/85
ok it's a half stop more but with today's digital cameras good high ISO performance, that extra half stop isn't that needed anymore.
The 1.2 Planar gives a very different look than the 1.4
It has smoother bokeh and lower contrast, it looks more like a Japanese lens than German, if you know what I mean.
I'm sure that Canon people and Takumar people would love it because it creates images very Canon/Pentax like.
I think I personally still prefer the classic 1.4 Planar look.
One thing where this lens has a definite edge over the 1.4 is sharpness.
The 1.2 is unbelievably sharp, it cuts your eyes.
Also like Bill noticed, colour rendition is very natural.
I'm not keen on bokeh games so I won't use the f 1.2 much, but it's nice to know it's there if needed.
But overall, to speak sincerely, I don't think this lens is worth the huge amount of money it is usually sold for.
I got mine for about 1000 Euros less than the normal used price of this lens. If I had to buy it again I'm not sure I would, it was a bit of a craziness,
given how I am happy with the 1.4 Planar. I was afraid to miss that occasion because I know there will not be one more with that price for a long time.
For sure I would never spend that extra 1000 Euros in any case. _________________ Orio, Administrator
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Orio
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Posted: Mon Feb 22, 2010 10:21 am Post subject: |
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Orio wrote:
Spotmatic wrote: |
Very nice captures! And of course it's good to see a little bit of Holland in Italy, even though Heineken isn't that good of a beer |
Yeah, I am sure you have a lot of better beers there than Heineken.
Unfortunately what goes to foreign, in case of food, is the big brands, not the small brands which usually mean better quality.
This is a bit true everywhere.
So to taste real Holland beer I will have to go to Amsterdam
(been there but only in the airport)
Heineken can beer tastes like aluminium, it terrible
Also I think that the one that is sold here it's not even made in Holland, I think it's made by a local factory which works on behalf of Heineken.
(same as Coca Cola) _________________ Orio, Administrator
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Tharos
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Posted: Mon Feb 22, 2010 11:47 am Post subject: |
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Tharos wrote:
Please name some better beer brands, beer freak here _________________ Camera : Yashica Electro 35 GS, Canon 450D, Konica C35 AF
28mm : Asahi Pentax SMC Takumar F3.5, Yashica ML F2.8
35mm : Distagon F2.8 (soon)
50mm : Carl Zeiss Jena Tessar F2,8 // aus Jena Pancolar F1.8 // SMC Tak F1.4 // Planar F1.7
55mm : Auto-Rikenon F1.8
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trifox
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Posted: Mon Feb 22, 2010 3:25 pm Post subject: |
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trifox wrote:
Planar 1.2/85 ??? Orio -- wow!!!
Congrats to your new lens -- this is a dream lens for sure!!
@ poilu -- stay tuned please!!! it's only lens! )
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poilu
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Posted: Mon Feb 22, 2010 4:00 pm Post subject: |
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poilu wrote:
trifox wrote: |
Planar 1.2/85 ??? Orio -- wow!!!
Congrats to your new lens -- this is a dream lens for sure!!
@ poilu -- stay tuned please!!! it's only lens! )
tf |
maybe only a lens, but have you seen how Carlsson make it sing _________________ T* |
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Orio
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 29545 Location: West Emilia
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Posted: Mon Feb 22, 2010 4:17 pm Post subject: |
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Orio wrote:
It's not the perfect lens however.
It has more lateral CA than the 1.4/85 and differently from the 1.4, you can not shoot it without a hood - in spite of the T* coating, the huge sized front glass makes you pay the due in that respect. _________________ Orio, Administrator
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Carlsson
Joined: 26 Jul 2008 Posts: 793 Location: Portugal
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Posted: Mon Feb 22, 2010 5:17 pm Post subject: |
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Carlsson wrote:
No lens is perfect
But I have to say that my copy seems to be different in regards of CA, perhaps a difference between the "50" and "60 Years" edition, or a misaligned element, I don't know. _________________
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visualopsins
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Posted: Mon Feb 22, 2010 5:33 pm Post subject: |
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visualopsins wrote:
@Orio, very, very nice presentation and quality! Beautiful people and scene captured beautifully!
re: Heiniken is good lager (in bottles only) but difficult to find fresh. Lager must be stored cold, at 5C or less and not frozen, otherwise quickly develops bad skunky smell and taste. Fresh Heiniken is delicious! _________________ ☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮ like attracts like! ☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮
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Katastrofo
Joined: 26 Feb 2007 Posts: 10405 Location: USA
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Posted: Tue Feb 23, 2010 1:20 am Post subject: |
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Katastrofo wrote:
Orio wrote: |
Thanks Bill. Native people here looks much different from the Southern look that you usually associate with Italian.
The food wagon family is native of a small village near Parma.
About Sofia Loren, she is the age of my mother 76!
If you like the Mediterranean beauty, it's time to update your references
search for Monica Bellucci and Manuela Arcuri |
Well of course I know of Monica Bellucci (who doesn't?lol) but will have
to Google Manuela Arcuri.
I still enjoy old Loren movies, watched El Cid recently (oh yeah, Charlton
Heston was in that movie, too, wasn't he. lol) |
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Orio
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 29545 Location: West Emilia
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Posted: Tue Feb 23, 2010 1:40 am Post subject: |
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Orio wrote:
Katastrofo wrote: |
will have
to Google Manuela Arcuri. |
She has a couple of very convincing arguments to support her position _________________ Orio, Administrator
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Katastrofo
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Posted: Tue Feb 23, 2010 1:43 am Post subject: |
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Katastrofo wrote:
Orio wrote: |
Katastrofo wrote: |
will have
to Google Manuela Arcuri. |
She has a couple of very convincing arguments to support her position |
OK, it's time for me to Goggle, I mean Google.
Yes, I see what you mean. |
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Orio
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Posted: Tue Mar 09, 2010 2:20 am Post subject: |
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Orio wrote:
I have had professionally printed at medium size (20x30 cm) some of the photos here, plus some older ones, which I have to give to the food wagon owner.
I have to say - wow! - the 5D and 5DII images + my Contax lenses make simply perfect prints! I did not expect them SO good. Totally smooth (with regards to noise) and totally sharp (with regards to detail) at 20x30 cm. And mostly, alive and brilliant - just like looking at the monitor!
The king of printed performance is the Planar 1.2/85. The portrait of the three girls jumps out of the paper, in spite of the rather crappy neon lighting.
3D effect where I did not expect to see one!
I think I will have happy customers _________________ Orio, Administrator
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Carlsson
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Posted: Tue Mar 09, 2010 10:23 am Post subject: |
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Carlsson wrote:
Glad to hear, I have to print some of my carnaval images too!
I started my digital printing few weeks ago and yes, it's a complete different thing, seeing the image on the monitor or as a final print. _________________
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