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Orio
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Posted: Fri Sep 11, 2009 7:59 pm Post subject: Hungarian Gladiators |
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Orio wrote:
At the Centuriations Market in Villadose there was a group of Hungarian gladiator acts re-enlivement performers.
The group is called Familia Gladiatoria Pannonica and you can find them on the web also. They take part to these historical re-enlivements all over Europe.
They performed the whole two days in several acts. People enjoyed them much. They were really hitting hard! A couple of times two of the guys injured themselves with blood. Even if not sharpened, the blades can still cut. And the shields do hurt!.
There were three women in the group, and they did not spare themselves at all.
Audience enjoyed a lot and at the end of each fight we were called to show thumb up or down to decide if the loser should be "killed" or not
I took pictures from various set, and I used various lenses: Elmarit-R 35, Distagon Hollywood 2/28, Distagon 2.8/25, Elmarit-R 90, and two cameras, EOS 50D and EOS 5DMkII. You find lens and camera specifications in each picture. _________________ Orio, Administrator
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Orio
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Posted: Fri Sep 11, 2009 8:02 pm Post subject: |
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Orio wrote:
First, the Elmarit-R 35 pictures:
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Orio
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Posted: Fri Sep 11, 2009 8:06 pm Post subject: |
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Orio wrote:
Now the Hollywood Distagon pictures:
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greg
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Posted: Fri Sep 11, 2009 8:07 pm Post subject: |
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greg wrote:
interesting subject matter for sure and the pics are good also |
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Orio
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Posted: Fri Sep 11, 2009 8:08 pm Post subject: |
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Orio wrote:
The Distagon 25 pictures:
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Orio
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Posted: Fri Sep 11, 2009 8:09 pm Post subject: |
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Orio wrote:
And finally the Elmarit-R 90 pictures:
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tobbsman
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Posted: Fri Sep 11, 2009 8:16 pm Post subject: |
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tobbsman wrote:
Hungarian Force
Very nice documentation of the fight, I have the feeling that I was there ...
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Orio
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Posted: Fri Sep 11, 2009 8:19 pm Post subject: |
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Orio wrote:
And now for the pixel-peepers a couple of 100% crops from the last picture:
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Orio
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Posted: Fri Sep 11, 2009 8:24 pm Post subject: |
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Orio wrote:
The most amazing part was the blind fight.
The two fighters wore blind helmets. This is an historically documented procedure (all the weapons and armors they used, are historically correct. For instance, the curved sword was a Tracean (today Bulgarian) weapon. Tracean was one of the four common fighting styles in the arena).
The two guys made a really scary blind fight, and one of them almost fell upon a spectator. After this fact, they did not repeat it anymore, because it was too dangerous, as spectators were not separated from the fighters. _________________ Orio, Administrator
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LucisPictor
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Posted: Sat Sep 12, 2009 7:51 am Post subject: |
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LucisPictor wrote:
I like the 90mm shots the best.
The colours are great in all shots, but in the wide angle shots the deep DoF is a little disturbing. Well... the problem of wide angles.
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poilu
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Posted: Sat Sep 12, 2009 9:34 am Post subject: |
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poilu wrote:
great series, nice to have different lens (all top)
I have my 13" laptop in Paris so not easy to view
the 25 show no distortion and saturated colors
the hollywood more true life colors
the elmarit 35 need a double hood to improve contrast
the elmarit 90 show nice colors and resolution crops are impressive
wide angle show the place, the atmosphere
90 mm show small crop not explicit of the whole environment
best is to go near with a wide angle, not easy with those curved swords |
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Orio
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Posted: Sat Sep 12, 2009 9:55 am Post subject: |
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Orio wrote:
LucisPictor wrote: |
I like the 90mm shots the best.
The colours are great in all shots, but in the wide angle shots the deep DoF is a little disturbing. Well... the problem of wide angles.
Perhaps with the Hollywood wide open and a grey filter? |
We think opposite, I love the deep DOF of the wide angle lenses and I don't consider it a problem, but a premium. I look for it, it gives me the breath of the reality. I find the same "being there" feel in Tobbsman's landscapes which is why I love them. _________________ Orio, Administrator
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Orio
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Posted: Sat Sep 12, 2009 10:01 am Post subject: |
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Orio wrote:
poilu wrote: |
great series, nice to have different lens (all top)
I have my 13" laptop in Paris so not easy to view
the 25 show no distortion and saturated colors
the hollywood more true life colors
the elmarit 35 need a double hood to improve contrast
the elmarit 90 show nice colors and resolution crops are impressive
wide angle show the place, the atmosphere
90 mm show small crop not explicit of the whole environment
best is to go near with a wide angle, not easy with those curved swords |
I agree about the wide angle.
I usually use two cameras one FF with wide angle and one APS-C with a tele.
About the Leica lenses, I wanted to take them with me to see how they do in such a bright summer context. So far I only used them at the Carnival which is in Winter and has a totally different light.
I have to say, that I find Leica lenses to give a very sweet rendering. Very sharp, but also sweet. Which is not what I am after in this kind of series. I prefer the more direct and punching approach of the Zeiss lenses.
I don't like too much the "sugar sweet", even when shooting females I prefer a more manly approach when action is involved. A lesson for the future. I think Leica lenses give their best in sweeter situations,
such as portraits, family candids, flowers etc. For action, nothing like Zeiss lenses for me. The Hollywood and the 25mm gave me exactly the kind of result that I was looking for in this series. _________________ Orio, Administrator
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Attila
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Posted: Sat Sep 12, 2009 12:05 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
They should visit Gym first Your lenses are amazing! Nice shoots! _________________ -------------------------------
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Sandie
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Posted: Fri Sep 25, 2009 8:53 am Post subject: |
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Sandie wrote:
Wonderful shots and great lenses. There were also somehistorical re-enlivements in our city, and many italian warriors joined them. I also took many photos, but they were not comparable to your shots. _________________ Canon 5DII + Canon 5D + Canon 350D + Pentax MZ10 + Pracktica BX20 + Mamiya 1000TL + Yashica TL Electro X + Yashica FR1 + Pentax ES II
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koji
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Posted: Fri Sep 25, 2009 12:48 pm Post subject: |
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koji wrote:
Wonderful series for subjects and lenses. Those two modern lens clan
have different tonality, very interesting. This time I prefer Elmarit shots,
Zeiss' are dramatic but shades are a bit too dark for my taste. But love
28/2 shots. _________________ Our Home Page has 18,200 photos in 575 directories today.
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patrickh
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Posted: Sat Sep 26, 2009 12:08 am Post subject: |
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patrickh wrote:
Orio
Looks like a fun outing - but what difficult lighting. You really did a great job of mastering that dynamic range of shadow vs very bright sunlight. I suspect that earlier in the day + earlier in the year it would have been almost impossible.
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