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Orio
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 Posted: Fri Jun 26, 2009 9:02 am Post subject: [PRINT] My VERY first print :-) |
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 Posted: Fri Jun 26, 2009 9:02 am Post subject: [PRINT] My VERY first print :-) |
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Orio wrote:
OK, I know this isn't anything special
I made it in my very first day in the course's darkroom. I wasn't taught yet how to do dodging and burning, so it's only a "bare bone" print so to say. Yet it was very fun And I believe, real B&W prints look nothing like computer conversions. They have a special "breath" to them - I don't know if scanning the print kills it though.
P.S. technical data:
Contax RX camera
Vario-Sonnar 35-70 lens
Kodak T-Max 400 film pushed to 800
Kodak T-Max developer
Ilford RC IV pearl paper _________________ Orio, Administrator
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trifox
 Joined: 14 May 2008 Posts: 3614 Location: UK
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trifox wrote:
looks fantastic!
I am still amazed of film ..!
Nice picture, by the way..
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piticu
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piticu wrote:
Yeah, i like the picture too _________________ www.atelierelealbe.eu |
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Jieffe
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Jieffe wrote:
A succesfull first print ! Nice picture too.
For dodge and burning, it helps to have 4 hands. Well, you could always ask for help to the young ladies
You understand now why there are so many methods to try emulating B&W in digital ... There is more in BW prints than a simple color desature. |
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Orio
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 29545 Location: West Emilia
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Orio wrote:
Thanks guys
No more young ladies... the course is over I'll have to develop a couple of extra arms myself Or ask for Monica's help.
Anyway, if I keep the timer on the left, near to the red filter location, and use long exposure times, it shouldn't be too difficult (I hope)... _________________ Orio, Administrator
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Jieffe
 Joined: 04 Nov 2007 Posts: 754 Location: Belgium
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Jieffe wrote:
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| Anyway, if I keep the timer on the left, near to the red filter location, and use long exposure times, it shouldn't be too difficult (I hope)... |
With experience, I acquired a very good sense of timing until about 30 seconds by just counting. In fact, I never had a timer.
Long exposure, masks (a simple shape cut in cardboard and held with a metal wire) or hands for more complicated masking, and above all, practice.
All of this is good fun ... well, a bit for nerds but aren't we all ? (that's what the GF said when I told her my new external rangefinder was "cute" ) |
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GrahamNR17
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Xpres
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patrickh
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patrickh wrote:
Well done Orio. Your description of the "breath" puts me in mind of the early phases of digital sound - compared with vinyl they completely lacked the "airiness" "breathing" that we were used to. Interesting - your choice of description
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magnet-2009
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magnet-2009 wrote:
Orio, it's very good. Keep on developing....and printing. |
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Katastrofo
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Katastrofo wrote:
Wow! Excellent first effort!  |
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Laurence
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Laurence wrote:
Yes, there is something special about this print, even on a monitor and after scanning. Almost like the emulsion produces "denser" prints. Anyway, this is actually pretty fantastic!
Of course, you should get a frame around this first print and keep it as a wonderful reminder as you start out in film developing and printing. _________________
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tobbsman wrote:
looks great ! go on like this ... if first print looks like this ... how will look the 2nd one or even your 1000th one
Cheers
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spiralcity
 Joined: 02 Oct 2008 Posts: 1207 Location: Chicago, U.S.A
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 Posted: Tue Jun 30, 2009 5:19 pm Post subject: Re: My VERY first print :-) |
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 Posted: Tue Jun 30, 2009 5:19 pm Post subject: Re: My VERY first print :-) |
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spiralcity wrote:
| Orio wrote: |
OK, I know this isn't anything special
I made it in my very first day in the course's darkroom. I wasn't taught yet how to do dodging and burning, so it's only a "bare bone" print so to say. Yet it was very fun And I believe, real B&W prints look nothing like computer conversions. They have a special "breath" to them - I don't know if scanning the print kills it though.
P.S. technical data:
Contax RX camera
Vario-Sonnar 35-70 lens
Kodak T-Max 400 film pushed to 800
Kodak T-Max developer
Ilford RC IV pearl paper |
Orio,
Do you visit APUG,com? It's a great place for fans of film.  _________________ Nikons : F4-EM-FG-FE2-FA-EL-FTN-N2020-N70-F Nikkorex
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Chinon: CE4s-CM4s-CM5
Pentax: ME-Soptmatic
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Pentax- K10D
Lenses- M42's-Nikon F mount, Pentax PK
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Orio
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 29545 Location: West Emilia
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 Posted: Tue Jun 30, 2009 5:45 pm Post subject: Re: My VERY first print :-) |
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Orio wrote:
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Orio,
Do you visit APUG,com? It's a great place for fans of film.  |
I don't understand, if I go there:
http://www.apug.com
a site comes up that doesn't seem to have anything to do with film... _________________ Orio, Administrator
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Ferrania film is reborn! http://www.filmferrania.it/
Support the Ornano film chemicals company and help them survive!
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GrahamNR17
 Joined: 17 Jan 2009 Posts: 1855 Location: Norfolk, UK
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 Posted: Tue Jun 30, 2009 6:04 pm Post subject: Re: My VERY first print :-) |
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GrahamNR17 wrote:
| Orio wrote: |
| spiralcity wrote: |
Orio,
Do you visit APUG,com? It's a great place for fans of film.  |
I don't understand, if I go there:
http://www.apug.com
a site comes up that doesn't seem to have anything to do with film... |
It's http://www.apug.org  |
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spiralcity
 Joined: 02 Oct 2008 Posts: 1207 Location: Chicago, U.S.A
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 Posted: Tue Jun 30, 2009 6:16 pm Post subject: Re: My VERY first print :-) |
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spiralcity wrote:
| Orio wrote: |
| spiralcity wrote: |
Orio,
Do you visit APUG,com? It's a great place for fans of film.  |
I don't understand, if I go there:
http://www.apug.com
a site comes up that doesn't seem to have anything to do with film... |
Sorry Orio, it should have been apug.org
http://www.apug.org/forums/home.php _________________ Nikons : F4-EM-FG-FE2-FA-EL-FTN-N2020-N70-F Nikkorex
Fujica: ST605N-ST701-ST705-ST705W-ST801-ST901-AZ1-AX-3
Chinon: CE4s-CM4s-CM5
Pentax: ME-Soptmatic
Ricoh:XR6
Pentax- K10D
Lenses- M42's-Nikon F mount, Pentax PK
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Orio
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Orio wrote:
thanks! Nice link. _________________ Orio, Administrator
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