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gil
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gil wrote:
Field Test: Hasselblad (Carl Zeiss Sonnar) 150mm f4 T
Got the above at a price I can't refuse (with option to return) more than a week ago. It got a scratch at the back element (probably from re-cocking the lens) and some spots in the front element. The intended use was for close up of flowers where manual focusing is not bad. Since I didn't detect the effect of the mentioned flaws, I decided to keep it and have some fun on it.
To those familiar with Hasselblad lenses, what I have observed are probably boring already but for a first time user like me; it opened up some fun adventures. The details and image characteristics seems to justify the cost and the reputation :~) (sorry to be a bit smiling here but I have cheap lenses that might be clinging on its tail for the subjects I am doing). The long focus throw gives me a wider range for getting usable focused shots. Used a Fotodiox Hasselblad to Minolta/Sony adapter for my Sony A700.
The details on that lens are available online. All images done hand held, JPG, cropped and basic PP. Some settings in images but I got tired putting it in after doing a few.
With 1.4X TC
With extension tube
By itself
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Chiti wrote:
Amazing!! 
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Attila wrote:
Dang! I knew this is must be superb! Beautiful samples amazingly good lens! Congrats!
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spiralcity
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spiralcity wrote:
The images and lens are absolutely beautiful.  |
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peterm1 wrote:
Beautiful
Blast. Now I want a 'Blad!
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arhi_tectu1 wrote:
oh my god very nice great .
i always wanted to try a lens from this class.
very impressive.
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F16SUNSHINE wrote:
Never mind the lens! Those are fantastic captures
yeah the lens is a keeper also 
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Farside wrote:
Outstanding stuff, indeed. Who cares about a scratch that doesn't show up?
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patrickh wrote:
Magnifico - that last one is pure magic in colour
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djmike wrote:
that's wow. superb great lens
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gil
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gil wrote:
Thanks much all. I was surprised with the results considering a nasty scratch in the rear element, see picture below. I know someday it will hit me in maybe different angle, high contrast area, etc. but for now, lots of fun so far. As I mentioned before, your shared findings and info here inspired me to go deeper into the joy of manual lenses. Thanks again.
cheers,
gil
p.s. I put the green wire in the left to minimize the cocking (the right term for the shutter and aperture closing?) of the lens whenever I place a Hasselblad extension tube. Also to minimize that, I also just used my AF extension tube so that I won't disturb the setup.
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Orio wrote:
The Sonnar 4/150 is reputed as one of the sharpest lenses ever made.
The focal lenght makes the scratch not so bad for images. It would have been a different story if the lens was a Distagon...
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madamasu wrote:
Astonishing pictures, especially those with the humming-bird. They must be very difficult to catch with a MF-lense.
Congrats
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mUg wrote:
amazing photos! And honestly i wouldn't care of a scratch if you can obtain such wonderful images with this lens |
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KhanX wrote:
superb pictures. I like all of your pictures.
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Orio wrote:
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| amazing photos! And honestly i wouldn't care of a scratch if you can obtain such wonderful images with this lens |
I would scratch the lens myself to make them! 
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bawang wrote:
I don't know it was even possible to put a 'Blad on modern DSLR.
Anyway ... Hummingbird+MF=AMAZING! |
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| I don't know it was even possible to put a 'Blad on modern DSLR. |
yes it's possible.
the problem is that some Blads don't have the aperture ring. So you need to be careful in picking those Blads that do.
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voytek wrote:
To be safe it is enough to buy lens C type. All have aperture ring. But true is that they all are very sharp wide open. Special 150, 250, Distagon 4/40
My lens from medium format which are working on digital SLR (using adapter):
Designed for Pentacon Six, (Sonnar 2.8/180, Biometar 2.8/80, Biometar 2.8/120, Flektogon 4/50/ Flektogon 2.8/60, Mir 26B 3.5/45, Mir 38B 3.5/65, Kaleinar 2.8/150,)
Designed for Kiev88 (Jupiter 36B 3.5/250, Arsat 3.5/30, Vega 12B 2.8/90)
Designed for Hasselblad type C (Distagon 4/50, Distagon 4/40, Planar 2.8/80, Sonnar 4/150, Sonnar 5.6/250)
Designed for Mamiya 645 (Mamiya 1.9/80, Mamiya 2.8/45, Mamiya 4/150, Mamiya 2.8/150, Mamiya 4/210)
I know that also Lens for Pentax 67 can work on my Pentax but I gave up, adapter is $177 plus S/H
I didn't try Bronica, I have Kowa lens but no adapter
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gil
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gil wrote:
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To be safe it is enough to buy lens C type. All have aperture ring. But true is that they all are very sharp wide open. Special 150, 250, Distagon 4/40
My lens from medium format which are working on digital SLR (using adapter):
Designed for Pentacon Six, (Sonnar 2.8/180, Biometar 2.8/80, Biometar 2.8/120, Flektogon 4/50/ Flektogon 2.8/60, Mir 26B 3.5/45, Mir 38B 3.5/65, Kaleinar 2.8/150,)
Designed for Kiev88 (Jupiter 36B 3.5/250, Arsat 3.5/30, Vega 12B 2.8/90)
Designed for Hasselblad type C (Distagon 4/50, Distagon 4/40, Planar 2.8/80, Sonnar 4/150, Sonnar 5.6/250)
Designed for Mamiya 645 (Mamiya 1.9/80, Mamiya 2.8/45, Mamiya 4/150, Mamiya 2.8/150, Mamiya 4/210)
I know that also Lens for Pentax 67 can work on my Pentax but I gave up, adapter is $177 plus S/H
I didn't try Bronica, I have Kowa lens but no adapter |
Thanks much all again. Wow Voytek, very nice info. Another source of info in case I need to go further into the medium format lenses. Now need to start saving again.
cheers,
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voytek wrote:
Now with different adapters I can use all this lenses with Mamiya 645M, mamiya lenses of course without any adapter. If I will buy next system, Canon EOS or Nikon I have to buy only few lenses. The "base" I have here
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Gus Helios wrote:
Gil, those are some really outstanding shots. From the amazing Hummingbird to the beautiful OOF color/bokeh on the flower shots.
And the lens itself is a great looking design...
How do I get one of those to mount on my Pentax 
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orly_andico wrote:
Click here to see on Ebay
about $30. From China. Hasselblad - PK adapter.
There also is a Fotodiox one for about $90.
There's a 150/4 Sonnar on KEH right now for $90! there, I said it! 
I'll just wait for the next one when I have $120 to spare.  |
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oblak wrote:
Nice shots....very nice.
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