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cilinderman
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cilinderman wrote:
Hi!
You've already seen this Valley at night, now it's time for Day  .
BTW, I've been testing a new type of frame.
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| Posted: Wed Apr 22, 2009 7:00 pm Post subject: |
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Orio wrote:
Beautiful scenery and very moody photo!
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| Posted: Wed Apr 22, 2009 7:07 pm Post subject: |
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F16SUNSHINE wrote:
+1
I think you should fix the horizon line.
The roof of the nearest building (RH side) would be a great reference point. 
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cilinderman
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| Posted: Wed Apr 22, 2009 8:41 pm Post subject: |
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cilinderman wrote:
I'll try to fix what you say about horizon but it's quite hard because in a valley it's difficult to determine the horizon I think. The house at the right side is not really straight at all but I'll try to see how it looks . Thanks for the hint!
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| Posted: Wed Apr 22, 2009 8:42 pm Post subject: |
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Orio wrote:
what lens did you use Cilinderman?
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| Posted: Thu Apr 23, 2009 7:13 am Post subject: |
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NikonD wrote:
wow... beautiful  |
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cilinderman
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| Posted: Thu Apr 23, 2009 9:54 am Post subject: |
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cilinderman wrote:
| Orio wrote: |
| what lens did you use Cilinderman? |
Olympus 21/3.5 (it's written at the right of the frame). This lens it's the most difficult lens to handle that I ever had. Sometimes photos look soft and sometimes they look very sharp, I've planned to buy some new adapter (I sanded the other one and maybe now it's not full 100% performing right).
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cilinderman
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| Posted: Thu Apr 23, 2009 9:55 am Post subject: |
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cilinderman wrote:
By the way, this panorama is 6 stitched photos for better image quality, it's a something more than 180 degrees panorama.
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cilinderman
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| Posted: Thu Apr 23, 2009 9:58 am Post subject: |
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cilinderman wrote:
| F16SUNSHINE wrote: |
+1
I think you should fix the horizon line.
The roof of the nearest building (RH side) would be a great reference point. |
I've tested what you said about infinity and I think it is already done. That old house is build inside the valley and it's not as straight as you think -
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| Posted: Thu Apr 23, 2009 3:47 pm Post subject: |
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F16SUNSHINE wrote:
It's a beautiful shot.
Don't listen to me. Only you can know what you saw there.
here is what I was thinking. It requires a bit of a crop to get it.
You can see now the near building is level and the tower in the distance plumb.
These being the only real reference for true horizon in this beautiful scene.
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shad309
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shad309 wrote:
Every single day I grow more and more jealous of all you full frame users!
Your photo looks as if I was standing there looking over the valley. Quite impressive!
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| Posted: Thu Apr 23, 2009 5:21 pm Post subject: |
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Orio wrote:
| cilinderman wrote: |
| By the way, this panorama is 6 stitched photos for better image quality, it's a something more than 180 degrees panorama. |
I am afraid that the image quality is quite much on the soft side, unfortunately, due to the performance of your Zuiko.
But since you make it a stitched panorama anyway, why not use a longer focal lenght with a better IQ?
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cilinderman
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| Posted: Thu Apr 23, 2009 7:32 pm Post subject: |
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cilinderman wrote:
| Orio wrote: |
| cilinderman wrote: |
| By the way, this panorama is 6 stitched photos for better image quality, it's a something more than 180 degrees panorama. |
I am afraid that the image quality is quite much on the soft side, unfortunately, due to the performance of your Zuiko.
But since you make it a stitched panorama anyway, why not use a longer focal lenght with a better IQ? |
I didn't have any other lens on me . This was the only thing I could take. However, I'm studying buying a polariser... do you think that would get skies a little bit better?
@F16SUNSHINE: I think I can now see what you say... The original one is a bit fallen to the right? I was thinking inverse . SOrry ;D.
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| Posted: Thu Apr 23, 2009 8:09 pm Post subject: |
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Carlsson wrote:
Great panorama! Amazing , I love the scale.
And I would like to see a Distagon 28 panaroma from this scenery.
I'm not sure about polarizers on wide angle lenses, make sure to use a step up ring, to avoid darker corners.
Next thing I don't know is how the polarizer will affect the panorama, because of the different angles from shot to shot.
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cilinderman
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cilinderman wrote:
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| Next thing I don't know is how the polarizer will affect the panorama, because of the different angles from shot to shot. |
Never thought about that... hum....
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F16SUNSHINE wrote:
It will change as the scene is moved around.
Best to use gradient filter if you use any.
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tobbsman wrote:
This is a fantastic Pano !
Just a litle critics: would be nice if the verticals in the architecture would be straight. especially the middel church-like building.
In your stiching software this can be easily corrected in the editing window ... takes maybe a minute to correct.
Then it gives the feel of a pano-cam with a shift lens to correct lines in architecture (I think Noblex made cams like that some years ago).
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patrickh wrote:
Great pano of magnificent scenery. Would love to visit Andorra. Those are good tips from Andy and Orio BTW
patrickh
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cilinderman
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| Posted: Fri Apr 24, 2009 6:52 pm Post subject: |
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cilinderman wrote:
| tobbsman wrote: |
This is a fantastic Pano !
Just a litle critics: would be nice if the verticals in the architecture would be straight. especially the middel church-like building.
In your stiching software this can be easily corrected in the editing window ... takes maybe a minute to correct.
Then it gives the feel of a pano-cam with a shift lens to correct lines in architecture (I think Noblex made cams like that some years ago).
Cheers
Tobias |
Thanks guys for commenting!
Tobbsman, I don't get you... I mean, I don't know how to correct those vertical lines, however, that might have lot to do with the horizon line. F16SUNSHINE showed my it wasn't straight at all  .
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