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Oh, not again... this time it's bigger than before...
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 20, 2009 4:36 pm    Post subject: Oh, not again... this time it's bigger than before... Reply with quote
... I seem to have bought one of these...



Graphic View II.

http://www.waterbirch.com/photo/graphicview/graphicview.htm

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 20, 2009 4:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Very Happy Very Happy

Congrats!
Now for some lenses Laughing


PostPosted: Mon Apr 20, 2009 4:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
WOW! I wish to hear from you from practical usage.


PostPosted: Mon Apr 20, 2009 4:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
congrats Dave! I will wait for some tilt shift samples


PostPosted: Mon Apr 20, 2009 5:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
What is it, a large format camera bellows?


PostPosted: Mon Apr 20, 2009 5:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Orio wrote:
What is it, a large format camera bellows?


The bellows and the front and rear movement assemblies, plus a Graflok back. All that's missing is a lens. I looked at doing it on the cheap, but decided that a complete Graphic View was more cost-effective. Still dead cheap compared to Sinar and Horseman, etc.


PostPosted: Mon Apr 20, 2009 5:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Sounds great Dave, I'm really curious about the photos.


PostPosted: Mon Apr 20, 2009 5:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Wow, now the MFLF enters the world of large format!


PostPosted: Mon Apr 20, 2009 6:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Try some of the big Soviet large format lenses. I've heard they go pretty cheap and are very decent quality-wise.


PostPosted: Mon Apr 20, 2009 7:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
themoleman342 wrote:
Try some of the big Soviet large format lenses. I've heard they go pretty cheap and are very decent quality-wise.


The easily obtainable and affordable ones are license copies of the CZJ Tessar LF series - the quality control on the latter is usually better, and they are just as cheap. But be warned - neither the GDR nor the USSR made easily shutter mountable lenses, all their stuff is originally barrel mounted, and remounting a Tessar type into a leaf shutter is punitively expensive, as they need rare and sought after oversize Compound shutters, plus remounting work. But a 150€ shutter and about the same amount for adaption on a 55€ lens would be silly, as serious modern Plasmat type lenses (Symmar S MC/Sironar N etc.) in perfect condition can be found for less. So you'll either have to get (and attach) a behind-the-lens shutter, or work with slow film, narrow apertures and long exposure times controllable by removing/reattaching the lens cap, if you want to use Soviet/GDR lenses.

Sevo


PostPosted: Mon Apr 20, 2009 8:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
I would suggest satrt with a SK 5.6/150.
I have one on my Cambo with a Prontor shutter.
The package was $75 from ebay and is bullet proof.
Not much reason for multiple lenses when getting started with 4x5.
Consider that you will not be making many frames per outing.
It takes quite some time to "get to know" your lenses.

Watch KEH discount section also. It seem sometimes they will buy the old cameras from Art colleges etc........
If it at least passes the "Bargain" rating from KEH you can always count on a quality bit of gear.

BTW Lens cap shutter is not so bad if you are doing landscapes near dusk or with moonlight.


PostPosted: Mon Apr 20, 2009 9:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Wow, what IS that thing, some kind of accordian? I can't wait to hear the music that comes out of it! Wink NICE acquisition...


PostPosted: Mon Apr 20, 2009 9:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Oh, Dave, I'm so sorry. I hate to think of something like that happening to a decent bloke like you. Look, just to help you out I'm willing to take this heavy burden off your tripod. Just site-mail me and I'll give you my postal address.


PostPosted: Tue Apr 21, 2009 4:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Congrats, Dave!

I've always wanted one of those point-and-shot cameras...
Looking forward to see your first experiences with it.

Regards,

Jes.


PostPosted: Tue Apr 21, 2009 5:27 am    Post subject: Photo equipment? Reply with quote
Are you sure, it seems to have more in common with the landing stage / bridge on a 767 as you enter the terminal at PDX? Smile


PostPosted: Tue Apr 21, 2009 6:37 am    Post subject: Re: Photo equipment? Reply with quote
nemesis101 wrote:
Are you sure, it seems to have more in common with the landing stage / bridge on a 767 as you enter the terminal at PDX? Smile


Laughing true


PostPosted: Tue Apr 21, 2009 6:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
F16SUNSHINE wrote:
Very Happy Very Happy

Congrats!
Now for some lenses Laughing


I'd thought of getting another Pola 110A and using the lens/shutter off that - there's a ton of them around and the lens reputedly does 5x4 perfectly fine. It was the quest for a 5x4 back for my 110A that led to this item here.


PostPosted: Tue Apr 21, 2009 12:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
You'll have ton of fun with that camera even if it's more usable in studio than in location unless you dismount and remount it every time.

For the lenses it depends which your subkects will be. Apart than a normal (alas a 150) you'll need a wide angle if you shoot landscapes or a short tele for portraiture or still life. Some of them come relatevily cheap and yes, KEH is usually cheaper than eBay most of the time.

I also have a back for Fujifilm instant film (actually I have two, one 4x5 the other one smaller). It's incredibly good even if a bit on the expensive side.
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