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Attila
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Posted: Tue Feb 16, 2010 11:27 pm Post subject: Glass negatives from 1910-1930 |
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Attila wrote:
Years just my guess.
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Katastrofo
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Posted: Tue Feb 16, 2010 11:30 pm Post subject: |
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Katastrofo wrote:
Wow, how big a glass negative is this? Excellent result.
I wonder if a digital file will last 80-100 years. Don't think so. |
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Attila
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Posted: Tue Feb 16, 2010 11:42 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
Katastrofo wrote: |
Wow, how big a glass negative is this? Excellent result.
I wonder if a digital file will last 80-100 years. Don't think so. |
6x7cm. Me too. _________________ -------------------------------
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Nesster
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Posted: Wed Feb 17, 2010 12:47 am Post subject: |
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Nesster wrote:
Very nice! _________________ -Jussi
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mo
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Wonderful snapshot of time...any guesses of what is happening in the first shot? _________________ Moira, Moderator
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Farside
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Posted: Wed Feb 17, 2010 3:26 am Post subject: |
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Mo-Fo wrote: |
Wonderful snapshot of time...any guesses of what is happening in the first shot? |
I think they are making potatoes. _________________ Dave - Moderator
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fish4570
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Posted: Wed Feb 17, 2010 3:41 am Post subject: |
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fish4570 wrote:
first photo, i am gonna guess a textile mill ... _________________ Paul
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Orio
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Posted: Wed Feb 17, 2010 4:12 am Post subject: |
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Orio wrote:
I would date these earlier, like as end of XIX early beginning of XX century. _________________ Orio, Administrator
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mo
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Posted: Wed Feb 17, 2010 5:06 am Post subject: |
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mo wrote:
I was thinking textile or grinding sharpening on the big wheels fine on the smaller wheels with the flat end like a polishing wheel,child labor is still evident......potatoes _________________ Moira, Moderator
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Posted: Wed Feb 17, 2010 6:04 am Post subject: |
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visualopsins
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Posted: Wed Feb 17, 2010 6:18 am Post subject: |
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visualopsins wrote:
I think they are making Scissors! -- kids are polishing, next two ladies are sharpening, & third girl is strapping.
Second is glass slide of photograph? _________________ ☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮ like attracts like! ☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮
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Katastrofo
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Posted: Wed Feb 17, 2010 6:46 am Post subject: |
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Katastrofo wrote:
siriusdogstar wrote: |
I think they are making Scissors! -- kids are polishing, next two ladies are sharpening, & third girl is strapping. |
Absolutely agree, those are belt-driven grinding wheels (the cans on the
pipes either hold oil or water for the wheels) and the lady on the right
is doing the final stropping to the blades.
Also, the two ladies in the middle look like sisters, maybe twins.
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Esox lucius
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Posted: Wed Feb 17, 2010 6:49 am Post subject: |
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Esox lucius wrote:
2nd photo needs Flip Horizontal in Photoshop (it's a mirror image now).
Intriguing, do post more! |
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PaulC
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Posted: Wed Feb 17, 2010 8:36 am Post subject: |
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PaulC wrote:
Where did these come from? Are they yours? The fishermen are by a Norwegian photographer called Anders Beer Wilse. His work is regarded as important.
You can see the signature "(something)-Wilse" if you flip the photo and it's just a matter of using Google then to find a photographer with that name. The signature is identical to some on these photos http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Anders_Beer_Wilse.
Look at the signature on this one, for example: http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Bj%C3%B8rnstjerne_Bj%C3%B8rnson_on_board_Norge.jpg there's no doubt about it at all.
The file number on the fishermen is 11391, which should date it exactly.
This one http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Haugast%C3%B8l_stasjon.jpeg is the summer of 1912 and it several thousand shots later. This, from March 1910, appears to be No. 11,530 (though it's not too clear). So the fishermen were probably photographed in Norway at the end of 1909 or early in 1910 and this was the guy behind the camera:
He seems to have been considered an important photographer even in his own day and most of his work is in museums. If you own these plates, they need taking good care of. _________________ View or buy my photos at:
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PaulC
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Posted: Wed Feb 17, 2010 8:54 am Post subject: |
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PaulC wrote:
I've just seen on the other thread that you own these, you lucky bugger! I think it's your duty to share them all with us. It's not every day that the forgotten work of a master photographer from that era is rediscovered.
How many slides were there in your box, and are they all by Wilse? _________________ View or buy my photos at:
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Posted: Wed Feb 17, 2010 9:06 am Post subject: |
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lahnet wrote:
What a find....
I think you shout try to write this museum, and ask if it has public interest.
http://www.primusweb.no/search.do;jsessionid=cr48hzp9el?owner=&criteria=Wilse&pageNo=&noOnPage=48&searchObjectType=&onlyWithPictures= _________________ Henrik
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PaulC
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Posted: Wed Feb 17, 2010 9:14 am Post subject: |
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PaulC wrote:
They are bound to be of historical interest, you don't need to ask. The fishermen are interesting because that does not seem to be the sort of subject he covered much, but he is meant to have taken some of the earliest photos of the fishing industry in Lofoten, so that might be a connection.
Also, look out for pictures of individuals. As well as members of the Norwegian royal family he also shot famous personalities such as Edvard Munch, the artist, so any portraits would be worth researching. _________________ View or buy my photos at:
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fish4570
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Posted: Wed Feb 17, 2010 1:38 pm Post subject: |
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fish4570 wrote:
s cisors! by golly, you might be eright! i went back and had a close look.
the photo of the fisherman has a candid quality ... _________________ Paul
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Attila
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Posted: Wed Feb 17, 2010 1:47 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
If you are interest Henrik , our local shop frequently sell them for a few bucks I can purchase for you. Price is vary this batch ~20-30 pcs was only 4 USD. Sometimes one pc price is 4 USD , depend from subjects.
Many negatives comes from stock agency archives and from old photographers we have no museum for photography history so many museum quality stuff just going into garbage or in better cases to local shop. _________________ -------------------------------
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Attila
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Posted: Wed Feb 17, 2010 1:51 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
Orio wrote: |
I would date these earlier, like as end of XIX early beginning of XX century. |
yes. possible indeed. _________________ -------------------------------
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Posted: Wed Feb 17, 2010 4:28 pm Post subject: |
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exaklaus wrote:
Great find, would love to see more of them.
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Attila
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Posted: Wed Feb 17, 2010 4:48 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
Okay, if you like it I will scan more, seems almost all reproduction like fishermans picture. _________________ -------------------------------
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PaulC
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Posted: Wed Feb 17, 2010 7:41 pm Post subject: |
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PaulC wrote:
Hang on - that fisherman one was a photo of photos, not a photo by you of prints you made?
Oh, well. It is still interesting. _________________ View or buy my photos at:
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visualopsins
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Posted: Wed Feb 17, 2010 7:50 pm Post subject: |
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visualopsins wrote:
I was going to write the fishermen photo looks staged and bet the fellow looking straight at the camera is the photographer. After seeing PaulC's photo of him I think I am right! _________________ ☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮ like attracts like! ☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮
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PaulC
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Posted: Wed Feb 17, 2010 8:03 pm Post subject: |
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PaulC wrote:
Anything's possible. I don't think I could say it was or wasn't the same person. It's not normal for him to include himself in his photos, though, and there are a huge number of them. http://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Category:Anders_Beer_Wilse&from=File%3ANSB+type+49a+Dovregubben+Oppdal.jpg
What struck me as odd was having what look like nets and one person in a sou-wester, which suggests deep sea fishing and the boy carrying oars, which suggest coastal dinghies. The composition is certainly fortuitous if not staged. _________________ View or buy my photos at:
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