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The new Pentax K-r
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 07, 2010 2:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Looks good! Smile But does it have any better ISO performance than K-x?


PostPosted: Thu Oct 07, 2010 2:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
poilu wrote:
nice design, the K-r in white have the look Star Wars!
Very Happy


I find the design good, slightly different and IMO somewhat better than that of the K-x

Riku wrote:
Looks good! Smile But does it have any better ISO performance than K-x?


My impression is it clearly does!
I will try to verify by adding high ISO samples taken with my K-x later


PostPosted: Thu Oct 07, 2010 4:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Thanks for sharing, Andreas! I think these are pretty impressive (for JPEGs).

I cannot wait for my pre-ordered K-5 Wink


PostPosted: Thu Oct 07, 2010 6:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
I sincerely hope so! Actually since I've gotten a closer look at the K-r and I've decided I do like it after all, and would buy it later, but I'm still likely going to end up with a used or new K-x given my budget.

Probably new since buying a used one doesn't seem to be price effective so far. I'm not about to pay over $425 for one when I can get one brand new for less than $500 and way too many of the ads I see, people are asking that, and more, so I figure I might as well go new and get my own warranty and a color I like.

For less than $75 I'm not going used and forgoing those things. I've also looked at the K20/200D's, but again it's $450-500 used range-wise so there's no real point in skipping the K-x for one.

mo wrote:
magkelly...you may have an abundant choices of used K-x's coming onto the market when this Kr comes out!!


PostPosted: Fri Oct 08, 2010 2:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
that's incredible... but NR OFF? Where's the chroma noise that all digital sensors have?


PostPosted: Fri Oct 08, 2010 2:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Eruditass wrote:
that's incredible... but NR OFF? Where's the chroma noise that all digital sensors have?


if you do not have a program to view the EXIF you can do that on the photos uploaded to my flickr account, e.g.: http://www.flickr.com/photos/kuuan/5059480641/meta/in/photostream
NR is off, though I do not have any idea if the camera would do some NR even then ( sharpness is set to 'hard' and contrast to 'medium hard' )

after hosting them first at ipernity.com to show here someone had written to me saying that he could not download the originals from there, so later I also uploaded some to my flickr account where originals can be downloaded and EXIF viewed, here the set of 6 pics: http://www.flickr.com/photos/kuuan/sets/72157625114278708/with/5059480641/


PostPosted: Fri Oct 08, 2010 7:25 am    Post subject: Re: K\r ISO test shots - jepg noise reduction off Reply with quote
kuuan wrote:
today I had some 7 or 8 minutes with a K-r and it's 18-55 stock lens..in a shop in Kyoto.
I am VERY impressed, it seems to be quite a bit more 'snappy', specially AF, than my K-x. ...
cheers,
Andreas



Hi, How was the shutter sound ? Is it quieter than the K-x crash ?
cheers
Pete


PostPosted: Fri Oct 08, 2010 7:30 am    Post subject: Re: K\r ISO test shots - jepg noise reduction off Reply with quote
Transit wrote:
kuuan wrote:
today I had some 7 or 8 minutes with a K-r and it's 18-55 stock lens..in a shop in Kyoto.
I am VERY impressed, it seems to be quite a bit more 'snappy', specially AF, than my K-x. ...
cheers,
Andreas



Hi, How was the shutter sound ? Is it quieter than the K-x crash ?
cheers
Pete


THAT I also was asked at dpreview where I had showed these samples too, but during the short time with the cam I had not payed attention to that. Coming monday at the latest I will be able to play with the camera more extensively, so I shall report back on that

btw. the K-r, just as the K-x was, is advertised above all for it's colors, and for women. Just as pretty much all the m4/3rds, for their small size, in Japan are aimed and marketed for women

here the front page of the Japanese pamphlet


( I spare you the rest, but they can be viewed here: http://www.flickr.com/photos/kuuan/sets/72157625114278708/with/5061378339/ )

cheers,
Andreas


PostPosted: Fri Oct 08, 2010 8:22 am    Post subject: Re: K\r ISO test shots - jepg noise reduction off Reply with quote
kuuan wrote:

THAT I also was asked at dpreview where I had showed these samples too, but during the short time with the cam I had not payed attention to that. Coming monday at the latest I will be able to play with the camera more extensively, so I shall report back on that

...

cheers,
Andreas


Thanks !
Pete


PostPosted: Fri Oct 08, 2010 8:41 am    Post subject: Re: K\r ISO test shots - jepg noise reduction off Reply with quote
Transit wrote:
Hi, How was the shutter sound ? Is it quieter than the K-x crash ?

My impression is that it is the same.

My recommendation would be to buy a Kx.
For me the slight improvements* of the Kr are not worth 250 € more.

*
- slightly improved AF
- 6 fps (Kx 4,7 fps)
- AF indicators in VF
- 3" display (Kx 2,7")
- alternative LI battery


PostPosted: Tue Oct 12, 2010 4:47 am    Post subject: Re: K\r ISO test shots - jepg noise reduction off Reply with quote
Transit wrote:

Hi, How was the shutter sound ? Is it quieter than the K-x crash ?
cheers
Pete


K-x crash..lol..
hey, that shutter sound of the K-x makes much less of a pounding than that of the *istDs Wink
anyway: had been back at the store, and I am 95% sure that the shutter sound of the K-x and K-r are identical ( even took a video of both, but would had to work on it, not sure if that will be necessary resp. if I find the time for that soon enough )

cheers,
Andreas


PostPosted: Thu Oct 14, 2010 12:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Riku wrote:
Looks good! Smile But does it have any better ISO performance than K-x?


I had intended to trying to make a valid comparison shooting in RAW + jpeg with NR turned off with both the K-r and my K-x under the same lighting circumstances in the shop, but kind of screwed up. The SD card I used inside the K-r I also used to record photos taken with Nikons, Canons, Olys, Panas, Fujis and Sigmas and the card had failed on me, and I lost these K-r photos.

the comparison here, NR turned off in both cameras, are ( the earlier shown ) jepgs right out of the camera of the K-r compared with RAW converted in Lightroom 2 with default settings + colors noise reduction changed to 0 ( default was on 25 ) on the K-x:






PostPosted: Thu Oct 14, 2010 12:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Some 100% crops as found on Pentaxforums.com (a link to the image because it's too large for inline viewing, the pictures were converted from raw without any noise reduction):

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4112/5081053950_8cc5a01f9e_o.jpg
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