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PostPosted: Sun Aug 11, 2013 4:45 pm    Post subject: two more for the Soligor list... Reply with quote
180mm f3.5
The chrome-eared one is No. 86414256 and came fitted with a T2 mount in Miranda screw.
It awaits dismantling and cleaning for fungus, but performance has not noticeably suffered.

The lens with aperture controls at the front is No. H48204, it is clean and in use.
Sharp, snaps nicely into focus, good colour and saturation.



Very likeable lenses!


PostPosted: Thu Oct 31, 2013 1:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Didn't know that Soligor had put their name to auto-focus lenses, till I saw this ....
eBay item number : 121205124378
Seems to be pretty much the same as a "Magnicon 75-200mm F4.5 AF zoom" listed on the Dyxum website
http://www.dyxum.com/lenses/Magnicon-75-200mm-F4.5-AF-zoom_lens475.html
where one of the user reviews mentions that lens having appeared under several brand names, including Soligor.
How did Soligor's auto-focus lenses compare with their final offerings in the manual range?


PostPosted: Sun Nov 03, 2013 5:59 am    Post subject: Re: two more for the Soligor list... Reply with quote
norland wrote:
180mm f3.5
The chrome-eared one is No. 86414256 and came fitted with a T2 mount in Miranda screw.
It awaits dismantling and cleaning for fungus, but performance has not noticeably suffered.

The lens with aperture controls at the front is No. H48204, it is clean and in use.
Sharp, snaps nicely into focus, good colour and saturation.



Very likeable lenses!


Interesting.
I have a chrome eared one that is identical in every respect to yours -No. 86414256
Mine is numbered 16XXXXXX.
See:
http://forum.mflenses.com/soligor-180mm-f3-5-t61562,highlight,%2Bsoligor.html
Now it is generally accepted that the 1XXXXXXX serials are Tokina made, and the 8XXXXXXX serials are unknown.
Maybe they too are Tokina made.
OH


PostPosted: Sun Nov 03, 2013 10:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
I need the help from you, especialiced soligors guys.

The dates are.

450/8 num. 2.710.xxx.

Macro 28/80 C/D 3,5/4,5 num. 383064xxx.

Any help?

Thanks.


PostPosted: Sun Nov 03, 2013 11:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
DR.JUAN wrote:
I need the help from you, especialiced soligors guys.

The dates are.

450/8 num. 2.710.xxx.

Macro 28/80 C/D 3,5/4,5 num. 383064xxx.

Any help?

Thanks.


Lots of Soligorists around and they may have some further insight.
From Here:
http://forum.mflenses.com/soligor-12-8-f28mm-21and-versions-t30866,start,165.html

...and from your serial numbers, maybe both are lenses made by Sun.
OH


PostPosted: Sun Nov 03, 2013 11:36 am    Post subject: Re: two more for the Soligor list... Reply with quote
Oldhand wrote:
norland wrote:
180mm f3.5
The chrome-eared one is No. 86414256 and came fitted with a T2 mount in Miranda screw.
It awaits dismantling and cleaning for fungus, but performance has not noticeably suffered.

The lens with aperture controls at the front is No. H48204, it is clean and in use.
Sharp, snaps nicely into focus, good colour and saturation.



Very likeable lenses!


Interesting.
I have a chrome eared one that is identical in every respect to yours -No. 86414256
Mine is numbered 16XXXXXX.
See:
http://forum.mflenses.com/soligor-180mm-f3-5-t61562,highlight,%2Bsoligor.html
Now it is generally accepted that the 1XXXXXXX serials are Tokina made, and the 8XXXXXXX serials are unknown.
Maybe they too are Tokina made.
OH


Soligor probably asked suppliers to build to a spec, hence they look very similar. Some of the chrome ear lenses are awful, I had a 200/4.5 which was very poor, certainly not up to the standard of the Tokina preset...will try to dig out the serial.


PostPosted: Wed Nov 06, 2013 5:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Hello!

I just got my 35mm f2.8 Soligor today. Serial 2712754. I'm planning on using it on my Canon 5d mark II but a few questions:

1) It appears there are 3 independent rings-Most lenses just have the 2 (aperture and focus). Just wondering what this means? I'm a bit new to this. The bottom 2 both appear to be aperture, but one "clicks" into place like a normal aperture ring and the other one is very smooth like focus.

2) I can't seem to get the lens to focus
I have 2x m42 to EOS fotodiox adapters, one flanged, one normal. They both don't seem to screw all the way on to the adapter ring (see the side on shots in the link below).

I've taken some photos and put them here, i'd really appreciate if anyone could help!
http://imgur.com/a/fTZli

Last edited by ryanbarlin on Wed Nov 06, 2013 6:18 am; edited 1 time in total


PostPosted: Wed Nov 06, 2013 6:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
ryanbarlin wrote:
Hello!

I just got my 35mm f2.8 Soligor today. I'm planning on using it on my Canon 5d mark II but a few questions:

1) It appears there are 3 independent rings-Most lenses just have the 2 (aperture and focus). Just wondering what this means? I'm a bit new to this. The bottom 2 both appear to be aperture, but one "clicks" into place like a normal aperture ring and the other one is very smooth like focus.

2) I can't seem to get the lens to focus
I have 2x m42 to EOS fotodiox adapters, one flanged, one normal. They both don't seem to screw all the way on to the adapter ring (see the side on shots in the link below).

I've taken some photos and put them here, i'd really appreciate if anyone could help!
http://imgur.com/a/fTZli


The focusing ring is the large one and you have already found that.
The silver ring is a pre-set ring.
If you set it to the f stop that you want to use (pre-set it), then the black ring will only close the aperture to that f stop and no further.
It is a useful feature so that you can focus with the aperture fully open, then close it to that chosen f stop without having to re-check.
The adapter issue looks to me as if the lens should screw in all the way - dodgy adapter maybe?
OH


PostPosted: Wed Nov 06, 2013 6:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
[quote="Oldhand"]
ryanbarlin wrote:
Hello!

The focusing ring is the large one and you have already found that.
The silver ring is a pre-set ring.
If you set it to the f stop that you want to use (pre-set it), then the black ring will only close the aperture to that f stop and no further.
It is a useful feature so that you can focus with the aperture fully open, then close it to that chosen f stop without having to re-check.
The adapter issue looks to me as if the lens should screw in all the way - dodgy adapter maybe?
OH


Ah! That makes sense about the rings! Thank you.

Both adapters seems to work with 2 different other m42 lenses (helios 44-4M which takes the flanged adapter, Takumar 135mm 3.5 with the non-flanged) so i'm just wondering if there's a 3rd version that I might need?

Last edited by ryanbarlin on Wed Nov 06, 2013 6:11 am; edited 1 time in total


PostPosted: Wed Nov 06, 2013 6:11 am    Post subject: Re: two more for the Soligor list... Reply with quote
Oldhand wrote:

Interesting.
I have a chrome eared one that is identical in every respect to yours -No. 86414256
Mine is numbered 16XXXXXX.


Mine is 86413655 - only 601 difference, probably manufactured same week.

edit: is there some sign I could look to deduce the manufacturer?


PostPosted: Wed Nov 06, 2013 6:28 am    Post subject: Re: two more for the Soligor list... Reply with quote
kansalliskala wrote:
Oldhand wrote:

Interesting.
I have a chrome eared one that is identical in every respect to yours -No. 86414256
Mine is numbered 16XXXXXX.


Mine is 86413655 - only 601 difference, probably manufactured same week.

edit: is there some sign I could look to deduce the manufacturer?


Ahhh .... the great who made my Soligor Sleuth Hunt.
Well there has been a thread exploring this conundrum for quite a long time, and the results so far reflect the accumulated and shared knowledge of this Forum.
See Here:
http://forum.mflenses.com/soligor-12-8-f28mm-21and-versions-t30866,start,165.html

As for Soligor lenses beginning with 8-XXXXXXXX, the jury is still out.
I have a 1XXXXX serial that I find indistinguishable from the same lens with serial 8XXXXXXX.... and I am leaning towards Tokina as the manufacturer .............buuttt........

OH


PostPosted: Wed Nov 06, 2013 6:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
[quote="ryanbarlin"]
Oldhand wrote:
ryanbarlin wrote:
Hello!

The focusing ring is the large one and you have already found that.
The silver ring is a pre-set ring.
If you set it to the f stop that you want to use (pre-set it), then the black ring will only close the aperture to that f stop and no further.
It is a useful feature so that you can focus with the aperture fully open, then close it to that chosen f stop without having to re-check.
The adapter issue looks to me as if the lens should screw in all the way - dodgy adapter maybe?
OH


Ah! That makes sense about the rings! Thank you.

Both adapters seems to work with 2 different other m42 lenses (helios 44-4M which takes the flanged adapter, Takumar 135mm 3.5 with the non-flanged) so i'm just wondering if there's a 3rd version that I might need?


If it is an M42 threaded lens then the unflanged adapter would be best as you don't have auto-only aperture setting on your lens.
Maybe the thread is crossing or has a kink in it stopping it from screwing in all the way........

OH


PostPosted: Wed Nov 06, 2013 6:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
omg didn't remember any more that there was ANOTHER huge Soligor thread ,even reading this one gets me slightly seasick

but on the positive side, I totally forgot my Soligor has T2 mount so I can get a F-mount adapter and use it with my "brand new" Nikkormat Smile


PostPosted: Wed Nov 06, 2013 6:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
kansalliskala wrote:
omg didn't remember any more that there was ANOTHER huge Soligor thread ,even reading this one gets me slightly seasick

but on the positive side, I totally forgot my Soligor has T2 mount so I can get a F-mount adapter and use it with my "brand new" Nikkormat Smile


Yay!
Huzzah for Nikon DF! Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy

Edit - how did I get these big letters? Question Question Question


PostPosted: Wed Nov 06, 2013 9:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
[quote="Oldhand"][quote="ryanbarlin"][quote="Oldhand"]
ryanbarlin wrote:
Hello!
If it is an M42 threaded lens then the unflanged adapter would be best as you don't have auto-only aperture setting on your lens.
Maybe the thread is crossing or has a kink in it stopping it from screwing in all the way........

OH


Aha! You are smarter than me, sir.

Definitely cross-threaded. Even in the original photo on ebay, I spotted that the rear cap is not screwed all the way on.
Well, off to sort it out with the seller. Sad Thanks a heap anyway.


PostPosted: Wed Nov 06, 2013 9:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
[quote="ryanbarlin"][quote="Oldhand"][quote="ryanbarlin"]
Oldhand wrote:
ryanbarlin wrote:
Hello!
If it is an M42 threaded lens then the unflanged adapter would be best as you don't have auto-only aperture setting on your lens.
Maybe the thread is crossing or has a kink in it stopping it from screwing in all the way........

OH


Aha! You are smarter than me, sir.

Definitely cross-threaded. Even in the original photo on ebay, I spotted that the rear cap is not screwed all the way on.
Well, off to sort it out with the seller. Sad Thanks a heap anyway.


I get a warm glow when a problem is solved.
As Hannibal from [b]The A Team[/b] was wont to say:
I love it when a plan comes together ..........
OH


PostPosted: Thu Nov 07, 2013 5:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
[quote="Oldhand"][quote="ryanbarlin"][quote="Oldhand"][quote="ryanbarlin"][quote="Oldhand"]
ryanbarlin wrote:
Hello!
I get a warm glow when a problem is solved.
As Hannibal from [b]The A Team[/b] was wont to say:
I love it when a plan comes together ..........
OH


Haha. Very Happy Well, it sort of came together today. I was wrong, no crossthreading. The gap was caused by him using a slip on rear cover, not a screw one.

I actually took it to two different camera stores. The first guy was unclear but the second guy said "this is not a standard m42 mount. The thread is thinner than your adapter ring or other lenses." I asked if I needed a new adapter and he said "Just send it back in my opinion."

I thought m42 was universal? Little bit confused. I just wanted a sweet m42 35mm lens. Sad


PostPosted: Thu Nov 07, 2013 8:52 am    Post subject: Re: two more for the Soligor list... Reply with quote
ManualFocus-G wrote:
Some of the chrome ear lenses are awful


my 180/3.5 chrome-ear preset 86413655

I don't know if it is awful at all. Little low contrast and saturation but I think the scenery here is too .. Sorry about the chroma but one has to use iso 1600, taken half an hour before sunset about 15:45?

edit: for some reason raw picture is sharper at 100%, must set dpp options better?



100%



PostPosted: Wed Nov 13, 2013 2:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
From page 5 of this thread...
martyn_bannister wrote:
Well, bruised, abused and downright neglected, but this Tamron version of the Soligor 350/5.6 is still working Smile

There's a Tamron-Soligor like that -- but not so battle-scarred -- on ebay (uk) at present.
Had been quite interested myself, but now gone and Embarassed impulse-purchased a different lens instead.
Shocked Realisation sinking in that I'll have to carry it.... !!! Shocked


PostPosted: Wed Nov 13, 2013 4:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
The Tamron (Soligor, etc.) 350/5.6 preset is a VERY light piece.


PostPosted: Wed Nov 13, 2013 4:31 am    Post subject: Re: two more for the Soligor list... Reply with quote
[quote="kansalliskala"]
ManualFocus-G wrote:
Some of the chrome ear lenses are awful


my 180/3.5 chrome-ear preset 86413655

I don't know if it is awful at all. Little low contrast and saturation but I think the scenery here is too .. Sorry about the chroma but one has to use iso 1600, taken half an hour before sunset about 15:45?

edit: for some reason raw picture is sharper at 100%, must set dpp options better?[quote]


Not the best of shooting conditions to test out the Soligor 180.
Better light might show it in - well - a better light. Smile
Mine is a good lens up close and out to about 20 metres. After that, things get a bit softer.
Here are some examples:






Cheers
OH


PostPosted: Wed Nov 13, 2013 6:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
luisalegria wrote:
The Tamron (Soligor, etc.) 350/5.6 preset is a VERY light piece.
But what I've now bought isn't....
Btw, been testing my bigger telephotos against each other in the last few days, during clear spells, at longish distance
.... surprised a 400mm f6.3 Access SQ pre-set lens has been out-performing my other manual lenses (and sometimes the 75-300 Sony).
Hence interest in getting another 300/400mm lens.
I'd tried a 400mm f6.9 Tamron pre-set months ago, and it was so bad it may have developed some kind of internal mis-alignment.
Anyway, that made me a bit wary of pre-adaptall Tamrons, and (by association) even the Soligor by Tamron as well.


PostPosted: Mon Dec 02, 2013 11:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
OK, just to add to this thread with a variant of the Soligor line.
Here is a Soligor 200mm f4.5 pre-set with a H6XXX serial - so maybe Komine?
Lots of diaphragm blades - 12 I think.
Anyhoo, it is a very good lens - I was surprised.





.........and here are some samples taken on Pentax K-10D






There is more here:
http://forum.mflenses.com/viewtopic,p,1359690.html#1359690


PostPosted: Wed Dec 04, 2013 1:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Very similar to the 180mm/3.5 of the same line.
Very good lens that one.


PostPosted: Wed Dec 04, 2013 1:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Oldhand wrote:
OK, just to add to this thread with a variant of the Soligor line.
Here is a Soligor 200mm f4.5 pre-set with a H6XXX serial - so maybe Komine?
Lots of diaphragm blades - 12 I think.
Anyhoo, it is a very good lens - I was surprised.





.........and here are some samples taken on Pentax K-10D






There is more here:
http://forum.mflenses.com/viewtopic,p,1359690.html#1359690


looks more like tokina made lens!!!??
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