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test shots with the Koni Omega Rapid/Hexanon 60mm lens
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 22, 2009 12:19 am    Post subject: test shots with the Koni Omega Rapid/Hexanon 60mm lens Reply with quote
I had the ma and pa place process these and herewith are samples:





and the little snapdragon itself:


Have some more that I will add later.


PostPosted: Wed Jul 22, 2009 12:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Excellent quality.
Now you've driven the price up, I'll have to wait a bit. Ok for you, you've got yours. Smile


PostPosted: Wed Jul 22, 2009 1:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Farside wrote:
Excellent quality.
Now you've driven the price up, I'll have to wait a bit. Ok for you, you've got yours. Smile


Now Dave, didn't you get a Mamiya RB67 from KEH at a good price? Seems
like you did, maybe it was the M645, both are great cameras. Wink

Thanks for your comments. Smile


PostPosted: Wed Jul 22, 2009 2:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
GORGEOUS!

Amazing quality, and I love the field of view with the 60. I just got done writing a post asking you what the "equivalency" is of this lens compared to the 35mm camera counterpart? Probably about 30mm?

These are over the top for beauty and clarity. I can't get over how CLEAN these images are. Shocked


PostPosted: Wed Jul 22, 2009 3:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Laurence wrote:
GORGEOUS!

Amazing quality, and I love the field of view with the 60. I just got done writing a post asking you what the "equivalency" is of this lens compared to the 35mm camera counterpart? Probably about 30mm?

These are over the top for beauty and clarity. I can't get over how CLEAN these images are. Shocked


Laurence, thanks much, I answered your question in the other post.

Here's a few more, one a familiar scene, but I like testing on same subjects
like Jmiro mentioned:




It makes me want to throw out earlier shots of the same thing! Laughing I hope
this also demonstrates why I like Portra 160VC.


PostPosted: Wed Jul 22, 2009 7:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Awesome! Keep coming them pleaseeeeeeeeeeeee!


PostPosted: Wed Jul 22, 2009 1:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Thanks, Attila, I'll be posting some more in awhile. Next roll is Portra 800.


PostPosted: Wed Jul 22, 2009 3:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Bill, are these from your own scanner? Shocked

In any case...HOLY COW!


PostPosted: Wed Jul 22, 2009 3:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Laurence wrote:
Bill, are these from your own scanner? Shocked

In any case...HOLY COW!


Laurence, oh yes, with my own little 4490 using the supplied Epson software.
Makes me want to go to medium format entirely since I can't get the same
results with 35mm negatives/positives. I need to start doing my own 120
BW developing like young Nesster does. Wink


PostPosted: Wed Jul 22, 2009 4:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Katastrofo wrote:
Laurence wrote:
Bill, are these from your own scanner? Shocked

In any case...HOLY COW!


Laurence, oh yes, with my own little 4490 using the supplied Epson software.
Makes me want to go to medium format entirely since I can't get the same
results with 35mm negatives/positives. I need to start doing my own 120
BW developing like young Nesster does. Wink


I am of the same opinion with my V700. In fact, if I had to do it all over again, I would have just kept the old 2450... Surprised

The V700 is a great scanner, but the 2450 compares favorably for medium format scans. And I'm pretty sure your 4490 also would compare...in fact I KNOW it would because I've seen your production!

The V700 falls down in 35mm scans. But for medium format AND large format (I've scanned a few 4x5s) it's very good.

So...if the V700 quit working all of a sudden, I'd probably go to the 2450 or 4490 or equivalent for a lot less money.

Bill, a question: When you shoot with the KO Rapid, is there a problem with forgetting about the dark slide, or is there an automatic interlock that prevents errors with the dark slide?

Edit: One more point: The medium format world is so much FUN, using these fine cameras AND the fine scanning equipment, that I tend to agree that 35mm - for me - seems to be going by the wayside to some extent.


PostPosted: Wed Jul 22, 2009 4:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Katastrofo wrote:
I need to start doing my own 120
BW developing like young Nesster does. Wink


Shocked Laughing young Nesster!!!!

I think the truism about film size is true: larger is better. Even/especially with the 4490... I'll see if I can improve the 35mm scan, but it is very difficult to get sharpness and clarity.

120 developing is easier than 35mm as well - with the right (plastic) reel it's a snap getting the film in.


PostPosted: Wed Jul 22, 2009 5:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Nesster wrote:
Katastrofo wrote:
I need to start doing my own 120
BW developing like young Nesster does. Wink


Shocked Laughing young Nesster!!!!

I think the truism about film size is true: larger is better. Even/especially with the 4490... I'll see if I can improve the 35mm scan, but it is very difficult to get sharpness and clarity.

120 developing is easier than 35mm as well - with the right (plastic) reel it's a snap getting the film in.


Young Nesster Cool : It sounds like maybe processing BW in 120 is not such a daunting task as I thought it was?


PostPosted: Wed Jul 22, 2009 6:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Laurence wrote:
Katastrofo wrote:
Laurence wrote:
Bill, are these from your own scanner? Shocked

In any case...HOLY COW!


Laurence, oh yes, with my own little 4490 using the supplied Epson software.
Makes me want to go to medium format entirely since I can't get the same
results with 35mm negatives/positives. I need to start doing my own 120
BW developing like young Nesster does. Wink


I am of the same opinion with my V700. In fact, if I had to do it all over again, I would have just kept the old 2450... Surprised

The V700 is a great scanner, but the 2450 compares favorably for medium format scans. And I'm pretty sure your 4490 also would compare...in fact I KNOW it would because I've seen your production!

The V700 falls down in 35mm scans. But for medium format AND large format (I've scanned a few 4x5s) it's very good.

So...if the V700 quit working all of a sudden, I'd probably go to the 2450 or 4490 or equivalent for a lot less money.

Bill, a question: When you shoot with the KO Rapid, is there a problem with forgetting about the dark slide, or is there an automatic interlock that prevents errors with the dark slide?

Edit: One more point: The medium format world is so much FUN, using these fine cameras AND the fine scanning equipment, that I tend to agree that 35mm - for me - seems to be going by the wayside to some extent.


Laurence I thought with the V700's higher DMAX you'd have better results
with slides...(?) If my 4490 quit working I'd go for the 2450 since it can
do 4x5 as well. The convenience of medium format, I'm not ready to jump
up to large format just yet.

If the dark slide hasn't been removed, the shutter won't fire, nice failsafe.
The Koni Omega Rapid has a switch behind the lens that closes a door
which is handy, no danger of losing the dark slide (I've seen these go for more than $40 on the 'bay to replace).

I'm thinking just the occasional color negative thru my 35mm's and
that's it, and have CVS do the processing/scans. The rest and most of
it will be medium format from now on.

About developing 35mm...getting the dang film out of the cassette is much
more of a hassle than just unreeling a 120 spool.


PostPosted: Wed Jul 22, 2009 7:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
I'd had my eye on the Microtec Artixscan machines... but seems Microtek has exited the marketplace... "For the North American market, Microtek is moving from an emphasis on selling a wide portfolio of consumer and professional scanners and digital imaging products to emphasis on developing OEM relationships and vertical market opportunities. "

it looked like a really nice scanner though Crying or Very sad


PostPosted: Wed Jul 22, 2009 7:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Nikon won't be making consumer level Coolscans anymore, either. Just
the highend ones for the trade.


PostPosted: Wed Jul 22, 2009 7:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Yes, the D-Max is certainly rated better. It probably has a lot to do
with my poor skills at scanning, but I just don't see an improvement
for 35mm scanning with the V700.

Also, I've compared scans from the 2450 and the V700 at 16x20
prints for medium format. I look and look and look Shocked but I
can't seem to find any difference at least in the prints themselves.
There probably IS some micro-pixel-peeping difference, but for
my needs the 2450 print would be simply great - actually more than
great as one of the prints from the 2450 that was already a pretty
good transparency in my opinion, came out blisteringly sharp in print. Shocked

I haven't been much of a "print guy" in the past, but I'm finding
these 16x20 prints from MPix being very very good. So now the
walls of my home office are starting to see 16x20s being displayed.

Nesster, looking at Bill's scans with the 4490, it seems like a beautiful
way to go?


PostPosted: Wed Jul 22, 2009 8:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Yes, I have the same 4490, and a very similar experience with 35mm vs 120, as Bill.

I struggled with vuescan which theoretically does the multi-pass increased dmax thing, but found the software a bitch to use. So I to have returned to the epson software.

I'm about to scan some more 35mm Neopan, let's see if I can't get the scans to come out at least close to 120...


PostPosted: Wed Jul 22, 2009 8:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Nesster wrote:
Yes, I have the same 4490, and a very similar experience with 35mm vs 120, as Bill.

I struggled with vuescan which theoretically does the multi-pass increased dmax thing, but found the software a bitch to use. So I to have returned to the epson software.

I'm about to scan some more 35mm Neopan, let's see if I can't get the scans to come out at least close to 120...


Would love to see results, Nesster, even if you feel they might not have come out the way you wanted. It's ALWAYS fun and educational to see results from various equipment.


PostPosted: Wed Jul 22, 2009 10:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Laurence, no doubt the V700 does a better job on slides, but I feel the
4490 is no slouch when doing 120:



Sep 2006 Expired Provia 100F
Koni Rapid Omega 100/Super-Omegon 90mm lens


PostPosted: Thu Jul 23, 2009 12:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Katastrofo wrote:
Laurence, no doubt the V700 does a better job on slides, but I feel the
4490 is no slouch when doing 120:



Sep 2006 Expired Provia 100F
Koni Rapid Omega 100/Super-Omegon 90mm lens


*Larry looks up at Bill's superb scan and shakes his head* Shocked

Exactly my perception, Bill. The 4490/V700/2450 and others of the
later generations of Epson scanners do very very well on 120.

Just look at the micro-detail in the shadowed windows of the
building to the distant right side of the scan... Exclamation

I kind of doubt the V700 is better than the 4490 on 35mm slides,
but maybe...

I would like to try something, if you're game for it:

I will scan a 35mm slide and a 120 slide to the best of my ability
on the V700 - then send the two slides to you to scan on the
4490 to the best of your ability.

It would be fun to compare, and my gut feeling is that there may
not be any perceivable difference (the only thing being "in the way"
would be our individual scanning methods). In fact, perhaps we
could both use Epson default settings to even it out.

Sound like something to try?


PostPosted: Thu Jul 23, 2009 1:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Sure, Laurence, sounds interesting!

BTW, I got the 4490 for $83 around Thanksgiving of 2007. Epson.com had
a two 10% discount coupons, and it was free shipping. Though a refurbed
model, looked as new when it arrived.


PostPosted: Thu Jul 23, 2009 2:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Katastrofo wrote:
Sure, Laurence, sounds interesting!

BTW, I got the 4490 for $83 around Thanksgiving of 2007. Epson.com had
a two 10% discount coupons, and it was free shipping. Though a refurbed
model, looked as new when it arrived.


GREAT value! And I have this funny feeling that your $87 is going to be VERY comparable, if not better, than my $367!


PostPosted: Thu Jul 23, 2009 3:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Laurence, when you get the scans done, open a thread in the shiny new
slide gallery and I'll add mine when I receive the slides.
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