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Retina Reflex-S with the 50/1.9 Xenon and 90/4 Tele-Arton
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PostPosted: Sun May 11, 2008 3:14 am    Post subject: Retina Reflex-S with the 50/1.9 Xenon and 90/4 Tele-Arton Reply with quote
It's too bad that the Deckel Mount has been "orphaned" Decades ago. The Schneider and Rodenstock lenses made for the Retina cameras go for a fraction of what a Leitz or Nikkor sell for.

I took the Retina's out to Gunston Hall in Northern Virginia.

$10 Schneider-Xenon 50/1.9 on the Retina Reflex-S
Xenon, Wide-Open at F1.9


And at F4


Tele-Arton at F4


And another at F4:


PostPosted: Sun May 11, 2008 5:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
I loved the old Retinas!

This was my fathers camera, that he gave me as my first SLR when I was a teenager. I had most of the lenses too, save the 80 and 200mm.

My homemade Deckel-mount -

My Schneider 50/1.9 on a modified M42 T-mount -



And you can buy the Chinese copy of the Deckel mount -

http://cgi.ebay.com/Voigtlander-Bessamatic-Retina-Kodak-Lens-to-M42-Camera_W0QQitemZ150245334089QQihZ005QQcategoryZ30059QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

I was thinking of getting one, but the rest of my Schneider lenses were mislaid somewhere in the garage and they haven't turned up yet. Most annoying.


PostPosted: Sun May 11, 2008 5:50 am    Post subject: Re: Retina Reflex-S with the 50/1.9 Xenon and 90/4 Tele-Arto Reply with quote
Thanks for posting these. I love the rendering of the Xenon wide open.

Brian wrote:
It's too bad that the Deckel Mount has been "orphaned" Decades ago.

Not quite. Apart from the link provided by Luis (Chinese made Roxen adapter on eBay), here are two more suppliers:
http://www.cameraquest.com/adapt_deckel.htm
http://world.altavista.com/babelfish/trurl_pagecontent?lp=ja_en&trurl=http%3a%2f%2fhomepage2.nifty.com%2frayqual%2fDKL.html

Cheers!

Abbazz


PostPosted: Sun May 11, 2008 11:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
The Hong Kong adapter looks nice, even couples the aperture.

I've been thinking of taking the mount of of a parts Retina Reflex-S and making an adapter, I have several that are now scavanged for parts.

This Retina Reflex-S had a bad prism, I replaced it with one from a Minolta XG-9. It was a perfect fit, and very bright.

I've got most of the Schneider lenses, 28/4 and 35/2.8 Curtagon, the 85/4 and 90/4 Tele-Arton, 135/4 Xenar, and the 200/4.8 Xenar. Also the 50/1.9 Xenon, 50/2,8 Xenar, and 45/2.8 Xenar. I'd love to stumble across a 30/2.8 Rodenstock Eurygon someday.


PostPosted: Sun May 11, 2008 2:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Brian wrote:

I've been thinking of taking the mount of of a parts Retina Reflex-S and making an adapter


I was going to do just that, but the Bessamatic I bought was just too good to break. Still on the lookout for a scrapper camera.


PostPosted: Sun May 11, 2008 2:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
I like the softness of number one. Nice color as well.


PostPosted: Sun May 11, 2008 5:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
These Schneider lenses definitely have a "character" all of their own. I love the two I have although they are both very slow. The rendering of the OOF and the colours are "creamy".


patrickh


PostPosted: Sun May 11, 2008 10:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Brian,
You may have one of these but if not, it's a Retina (plus others) shutter wrench tool.

http://tinyurl.com/4wjulu

Jules


PostPosted: Sun May 11, 2008 11:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
That looks very handy. I've replaced the optics on the IIIc using a spanner, but never went past "flood cleaning" shutters. The Reflex-S that I'm using came back to life with a flood-cleaning. At some point, I'm crossing that shutter repair bridge though!


PostPosted: Mon May 12, 2008 1:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Flood cleaning ?

Just flush the shutter with lighter fluid ?

I have a stuck shutter (halfway open) on a RR4, I was thinking of this but it seems a little drastic. This isn't going to melt anything else on the camera is it ?


PostPosted: Mon May 12, 2008 9:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
I've flood-cleaned the Retina Reflex-S and Retina III-S with good luck. The Retina Reflex-IV did not come back to life. I've also flood-cleaned a Voigtlander Prominent, and many fixed-lens RF's, with good results. It has not melted anything. I first try with Lighter Fluid. If that does not work well, I switch to 99%pure Isopropyl Alchohol.


PostPosted: Mon May 12, 2008 10:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Thanks Brian -

How much fluid do you use ? A teaspoon ?


PostPosted: Sun May 18, 2008 2:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Retina's schneiders lenses, so beautifull sharm. I had, years ago, a bessamatic cs and ultramatic cs with voigtlander lenses (only not, the 350 F/5,6 super dinarex), and a pair of retina's lenses: 28/4 curtagon, 35F2,8 curtagon and the marvell 200mm F/4,8. Buy all the retina's lenses you can. And take all the pictures than you can too. Wanderfull time.
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