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alex
Joined: 18 Apr 2009 Posts: 561 Location: UK
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Posted: Mon Oct 26, 2009 4:29 pm Post subject: |
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alex wrote:
ashy wrote: |
where do all the feedbacks come from? what should I do now |
A lot of his feedback looks suspiciously home-grown. I was burned twice, the first time putting it down to random bad luck, the second the realisation that I was dealing with an eBay seller I should have avoided like the black death. I did eventually get a refund cheque, which appeared to be drawn with thick crayon, but I got stiffed for postage in all directions. There is no way on earth he could have tested the lens attachments as he'd claimed, because they turned out to be TLR accessories, and not Yashica rangefinder accessories.
I hope, as everyone here does, that your buy turns out OK, since a few here have also reported satisfactory deals, but your watchword henceforth should be caveat emptor, and you should equip yourself with a ten-foot bargepole for next time. _________________ Alex |
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martinsmith99
Joined: 31 Aug 2008 Posts: 6950 Location: S Glos, UK
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Posted: Mon Oct 26, 2009 5:14 pm Post subject: |
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martinsmith99 wrote:
I really like the Meyer Lydith. Not sure why it gets a bashing.
The 24mm Tokina comes in a couple of varieties. The RMC with 52mm filter thread is nothing special.
I've an Ensinor which Shrek pointed out is very good. Although its days may be numbered as I have a 24mm Tak on its way when the post decides to deliver it.
Ferndown seems to have mainly positive feedback so keep your fingers crossed that it is a serviceable lens. _________________ Casual attendance these days |
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Olivier
Joined: 18 Feb 2009 Posts: 5084 Location: France
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Posted: Mon Oct 26, 2009 5:56 pm Post subject: |
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Olivier wrote:
You should wait the delivery and see how is the lens.
I received a Tamron SP 24-70mm from him a few days ago and the lens was just fine.
I hope it will be the same for you. _________________ Olivier - Moderator
Dslr : Olympus Pen E-P2 - Fujifilm X-Pro2 - Canon 5D MkII.
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alex
Joined: 18 Apr 2009 Posts: 561 Location: UK
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Posted: Mon Oct 26, 2009 7:16 pm Post subject: |
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alex wrote:
martinsmith99 wrote: |
Ferndown seems to have mainly positive feedback so keep your fingers crossed that it is a serviceable lens. |
I'll keep my fingers crossed for him too. But as to feedback, have a trawl through it, especially the earliest feedback, and note how the same feedback comment, right down to the capitalised words and number of exclamation marks, appear to come from different eBay identities, and how often the same comment comes in dozens from accounts that are no longer registered. One account posted the comment "camera is good A++++" dozens of times within the space of a few minutes, a pattern that is not unusual with this seller. Another account has been used to spray a heap of "A1" positives every thirty seconds or so. Still another has been used to dump a pile of "Goods as advertised. Good seller." comments, once again, every thirty seconds or so for quite a number.
All that these feedback comments say to me is "SUSPICIOUS". _________________ Alex |
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Attila
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 57865 Location: Hungary
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Posted: Mon Oct 26, 2009 7:23 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
You will get it relax, Rocky is perfect seller he sell everything cheaply,but he need to get some money too... I bought many times from him trouble free, but need a bit luck of course, always sell cheaply and earn some money all together not easy.. so sometimes people loose against him. Rocky have one way what people love it I have different way what people not much love it. If you don't like what is he doing next time pay a bit more and you will have less risk. _________________ -------------------------------
Items on sale on Ebay
Sony NEX-7 Carl Zeiss Planar 85mm f1.4, Minolta MD 35mm f1.8, Konica 135mm f2.5, Minolta MD 50mm f1.2, Minolta MD 250mm f5.6, Carl Zeiss Sonnar 180mm f2.8
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alex
Joined: 18 Apr 2009 Posts: 561 Location: UK
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Posted: Mon Oct 26, 2009 11:01 pm Post subject: |
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alex wrote:
Attila wrote: |
You will get it relax, Rocky is perfect seller |
Ooooohh, maybe, but if Rocky is the "perfect seller", I'd hate to encounter who you think is the worst!
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he sell everything cheaply |
It's an auction, it's the buyers who set the price... _________________ Alex |
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Attila
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 57865 Location: Hungary
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Posted: Mon Oct 26, 2009 11:23 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
Yes, right Alex. Many people count only final price , nothing else. For them Rocky is a perfect seller always cheap. Just look how many buyer he have.
No free bread anywhere , including on auctions. Looking always bargain risky business, Rocky perfectly know it and serve people's dream very well.
If I buy very cheap I always count with cheating. Sometimes I am lucky sometimes I am not. He has place , people want him _________________ -------------------------------
Items on sale on Ebay
Sony NEX-7 Carl Zeiss Planar 85mm f1.4, Minolta MD 35mm f1.8, Konica 135mm f2.5, Minolta MD 50mm f1.2, Minolta MD 250mm f5.6, Carl Zeiss Sonnar 180mm f2.8
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Orio
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 29545 Location: West Emilia
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Posted: Mon Oct 26, 2009 11:59 pm Post subject: |
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Orio wrote:
I agree with Attila.
The old saying always applies: "If it seems too good to be true, then it probably is".
But unfortunately a lot of people still falls inside this trap. _________________ Orio, Administrator
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mo
Joined: 27 Aug 2009 Posts: 8979 Location: Australia
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Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2009 1:36 am Post subject: |
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mo wrote:
I think he still is no good...if you are aware of his cunning ways then yes you can get a bargan or not.But for the new and unknowing whom he decides to rip off he should have a warning sign..
being cheap does not justify his ways _________________ Moira, Moderator
Fuji XE-1,Pentax K-01,Panasonic G1,Panasonic G5,Pentax MX
Ricoh Singlex TLS,KR-5,KR-5Super,XR-10
Lenses
Auto Rikenon's 55/1.4, 1.8, 2.8... 50/1.7 Takumar 2/58 Preset Takumar 2.8/105 Auto Takumar 2.2/55, 3.5/35 Super Takumar 1.8/55...Macro Takumar F4/50... CZJ Biotar ALU M42 2/58 CZJ Tessar ALU M42 2.8/50
CZJ DDR Flektogon Zebra M42 2.8/35 CZJ Pancolar M42 2/50 CZJ Pancolar Exakta 2/50
Auto Mamiya/Sekor 1.8/55 ...Auto Mamiya/Sekor 2/50 Auto Mamiya/Sekor 2.8/50 Auto Mamiya/Sekor 200/3.5 Tamron SP500/8 Tamron SP350/5.6 Tamron SP90/2.5
Primoplan 1.9/58 Primagon 4.5/35 Telemegor 5.5/150 Angenieux 3.5/28 Angenieux 3,5/135 Y 2
Canon FL 58/1.2,Canon FL85/1.8,Canon FL 100/3.5,Canon SSC 2.8/100 ,Konica AR 100/2.8, Nikkor P 105/2.5
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Attila
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 57865 Location: Hungary
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Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2009 1:45 am Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
Mo-Fo wrote: |
I think he still is no good...if you are aware of his cunning ways then yes you can get a bargan or not.But for the new and unknowing whom he decides to rip off he should have a warning sign..
being cheap does not justify his ways |
Look his feedbacks not only new comers buy from him I am pretty sure.
Rocky like Tesco he is sell in mass volume in fact one of the biggest seller on Ebay, cheap , some item is good some less good.... _________________ -------------------------------
Items on sale on Ebay
Sony NEX-7 Carl Zeiss Planar 85mm f1.4, Minolta MD 35mm f1.8, Konica 135mm f2.5, Minolta MD 50mm f1.2, Minolta MD 250mm f5.6, Carl Zeiss Sonnar 180mm f2.8
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mo
Joined: 27 Aug 2009 Posts: 8979 Location: Australia
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Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2009 1:59 am Post subject: |
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mo wrote:
Yes people have to read his feedback and choose for themselves...I always read the feedback and work out what I will do from there. _________________ Moira, Moderator
Fuji XE-1,Pentax K-01,Panasonic G1,Panasonic G5,Pentax MX
Ricoh Singlex TLS,KR-5,KR-5Super,XR-10
Lenses
Auto Rikenon's 55/1.4, 1.8, 2.8... 50/1.7 Takumar 2/58 Preset Takumar 2.8/105 Auto Takumar 2.2/55, 3.5/35 Super Takumar 1.8/55...Macro Takumar F4/50... CZJ Biotar ALU M42 2/58 CZJ Tessar ALU M42 2.8/50
CZJ DDR Flektogon Zebra M42 2.8/35 CZJ Pancolar M42 2/50 CZJ Pancolar Exakta 2/50
Auto Mamiya/Sekor 1.8/55 ...Auto Mamiya/Sekor 2/50 Auto Mamiya/Sekor 2.8/50 Auto Mamiya/Sekor 200/3.5 Tamron SP500/8 Tamron SP350/5.6 Tamron SP90/2.5
Primoplan 1.9/58 Primagon 4.5/35 Telemegor 5.5/150 Angenieux 3.5/28 Angenieux 3,5/135 Y 2
Canon FL 58/1.2,Canon FL85/1.8,Canon FL 100/3.5,Canon SSC 2.8/100 ,Konica AR 100/2.8, Nikkor P 105/2.5
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patrickh
Joined: 23 Aug 2007 Posts: 8551 Location: Oregon
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Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2009 5:18 am Post subject: |
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patrickh wrote:
Rocky is a cheap crook who will stiff you if he has a chance. You are frankly better off gambling on the horses or similar - I cannot agree with Attila because he likes to take inexperienced people to the cleaner. He has no honesty - not a bone of it. This is not a "style of business" - it's the modus operandi of a person with crooked intent.
patrickh _________________ DSLR: Nikon D300 Nikon D200 Nex 5N
MF Zooms: Kiron 28-85/3.5, 28-105/3.2, 75-150/3.5, Nikkor 50-135/3.5 AIS // MF Primes: Nikkor 20/4 AI, 24/2 AI, 28/2 AI, 28/2.8 AIS, 28/3.5 AI, 35/1.4 AIS, 35/2 AIS, 35/2.8 PC, 45/2.8 P, 50/1.4 AIS, 50/1.8 AIS, 50/2 AI, 55/2.8 AIS micro, 55/3.5 AI micro, 85/2 AI, 100/2,8 E, 105/1,8 AIS, 105/2,5 AIS, 135/2 AIS, 135/2.8 AIS, 200/4 AI, 200/4 AIS micro, 300/4.5 AI, 300/4.5 AI ED, Arsat 50/1.4, Kiron 28/2, Vivitar 28/2.5, Panagor 135/2.8, Tamron 28/2.5, Tamron 90/2.5 macro, Vivitar 90/2.5 macro (Tokina) Voigtlander 90/3.5 Vivitar 105/2.5 macro (Kiron) Kaleinar 100/2.8 AI Tamron 135/2.5, Vivitar 135/2.8CF, 200/3.5, Tokina 400/5,6
M42: Vivitar 28/2.5, Tamron 28/2.5, Formula5 28/2.8, Mamiya 28/2.8, Pentacon 29/2.8, Flektogon 35/2.4, Flektogon 35/2.8, Takumar 35/3.5, Curtagon 35/4, Takumar 50/1.4, Volna-6 50/2.8 macro, Mamiya 50/1.4, CZJ Pancolar 50/1,8, Oreston 50/1.8, Takumar 50/2, Industar 50/3.5, Sears 55/1.4, Helios 58/2, Jupiter 85/2, Helios 85/1.5, Takumar 105/2.8, Steinheil macro 105/4.5, Tamron 135/2.5, Jupiter 135/4, CZ 135/4, Steinheil Culminar 135/4,5, Jupiter 135/3.5, Takumar 135/3.5, Tair 135/2.8, Pentacon 135/2.8, CZ 135/2.8, Taika 135/3.5, Takumar 150/4, Jupiter 200/4, Takumar 200/4
Exakta: Topcon 100/2.8(M42), 35/2.8, 58/1.8, 135/2.8, 135/2.8 (M42), Kyoei Acall 135/3.5
C/Y: Yashica 28/2.8, 50/1.7, 135/2.8, Zeiss Planar 50/1.4, Distagon 25/2.8
Hexanon: 28/3.5, 35/2.8, 40/1.8, 50/1.7, 52/1.8, 135/3.2, 135/3.5, 35-70/3.5, 200/3.5
P6 : Mir 38 65/3.5, Biometar 80/2.8, Kaleinar 150/2.8, Sonnar 180/2.8
Minolta SR: 28/2.8, 28/3.5, 35/2.8, 45/2, 50/2, 58/1.4, 50/1.7, 135/2.8, 200/3.5
RF: Industar 53/2.8, Jupiter 8 50/2
Enlarg: Rodagon 50/5,6, 80/5,6, 105/5.6, Vario 44-52/4, 150/5.6 180/5.6 El Nikkor 50/2,8,63/2.8,75/4, 80/5,6, 105/5.6, 135/5.6 Schneider 60/5.6, 80/5.6, 80/4S,100/5.6S,105/5.6,135/5.6, 135/5.6S, 150/5.6S, Leica 95/4 |
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alex
Joined: 18 Apr 2009 Posts: 561 Location: UK
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Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2009 8:04 am Post subject: |
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alex wrote:
Rocky isn't "cheap" other than in the less than kind sense. He doesn't sell "cheap" -- it's auctions, not 'buy-it-now' sales that he does. That gives him no price advantage over anyone else. As to repeat custom, there may be that from those who've not had the same level of dissatisfaction as others ; but as I drew attention to earlier, much of that 'repeat custom' is very suspicious looking. When exactly the same feedback comment (right down to peculiar punctuation) comes from a multitude of different account names, you have to be suspicious. When exactly the same feedback comment comes repeated in dozens at intervals of a few seconds, you have to be suspicious. He bans buyers who won't leave him positive feedback, and has done so since eBay allowed buyers to leave neutral and negative comments, and for the reasons, you have to be suspicious. He has had to change his account name at least three times ; and for the reasons, you have to be really suspicious. Good luck to those who get a good deal -- it's no more than they should have. But to those who haven't dealt with him, and come to forums like this for advice on buying, then caveat emptor has to be written here in very large and flashing letters. _________________ Alex |
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larsr
Joined: 25 Jun 2009 Posts: 272 Location: Helsinki, Finland
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Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2009 9:47 am Post subject: |
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larsr wrote:
There might be people who buy off him, get a dud copy and don't care to complain because they would probably get negative buyer feedback too. Relatiation for buyer sincerity is one of the things I don't like about auctions as I've had my share of that too, but that's another story.. _________________ Lars
Bodies:
DSLR: Nikon D200
SLR: Nikon FA, Pentax Spotmatic SPII, Zeiss Ikon Icarex 35TM
35mm: Voigtl�nder Vitoret
Nikkor MF
24/2.8K AI'd, 28/2.8 AIS, 35/2 AIS, 50/1.4 AIS, 50/1.8 AIS, 50/2 AI, 55/2.8 Micro, 35-70/3.5 AIS, 85/1.8K AI'd, 100/2.8 Series E, 105/2.5 AI, 105/2.5 AIS, 135/3.5 AI, Nikkor 180/2.8 ED AIS, 200/4-Q AI'd, 300/4.5-H AI'd
M42
Misc: Vivitar 28/2.5, Chinon 28/2.8, Cosina Auto Cosinon 50/1.8, Revue Auto Revuenon 50/1.8, Mamiya 50/2, Auto Flex 55/1.7, Cosina Cosinon 135/2.8 MC, Vivitar 135/2.8, Petri 200/3.5 CC Auto
Zeiss: Carl Zeiss (Ikon) Tessar 50/2.8, CZJ Tessar 50/2.8, CZJ Pancolar Electric 50/1.8 MC, CZJ Biotar 58/2 T, CZJ Sonnar MC S 135/3.5
Asahi-Pentax: SMC-Takumar 55/1.8, Super-Takumar 105/2.8, SMC-Takumar 135/3.5
USSR: Mir-1 37/2.8 (1958 GP), Helios 44-2 58/2
Pentacon/Meyer: Pentacon 29/2.8 MC, Pentacon 50/1.8 MC Electric, Meyer G�rlitz Oreston 50/1.8, Meyer G�rlitz Orestor 135/2.8, Pentacon 200/4
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50/1.8 D, 60/2.8 Micro, 55-200/4-5.6 G VR, 70-300/4-5.6 ED, 18-70/3.5-4.5 G
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Nikkor 105/1.8, Nikkor 135/2
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Olivier
Joined: 18 Feb 2009 Posts: 5084 Location: France
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Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2009 9:48 am Post subject: |
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Olivier wrote:
Sure, it's important to warn people.
I didn't notice that he changed its ebay name and bought a Tamron SP zoom from him.
After that, I had cold swet when reading comments here. Finally I received the lens very quickly and in very good condition. It's true that it was risky as there are no precise descriptions and only one photo. Maybe I was lucky. _________________ Olivier - Moderator
Dslr : Olympus Pen E-P2 - Fujifilm X-Pro2 - Canon 5D MkII.
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hinnerker
Joined: 17 Aug 2009 Posts: 929 Location: Germany near Kiel
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Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2009 4:53 pm Post subject: |
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hinnerker wrote:
Nesster wrote: |
hinnerker wrote: |
Wrong information for the A/M Switch...
the Yashinon DS-M 2.8/24mm has also an A-M Switch... did have nearly the complete range from 24mm to 200mm Yashinon DS-M.
Only the 1.4/50mm DS-M lack the A/M Switch...
I am searching for the picture in archive for showing that and are going to post this later on.
Cheers
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That's great news - I didn't know this, as all the DS-M's I've seen or owned lack the switch. It's a really good series of lenses, often cheap.
Do post the picture when you find it - I'm eager to see!
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OT MODE ON
Hallo Nesster
.. slightly OT but here are the Images from AM Switch of the
Yashinon DS-M 2.8/24mm i did sell some weeks ago.
The switch is very small underneath the aperture rind.. mostly you cant
see him if you dont look carefully.
Cheers
Henry
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