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Orio
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Posted: Fri May 09, 2008 10:11 pm Post subject: Paulownia tomentosa (Tessar 40, Sonnar 4/135) |
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Orio wrote:
There is a Paulownia tomentosa that is growing not distant from my home, in a very strange place, from the bottom of the torrent reinforcement, near the bridge.
It is all flowering so I thought it could be nice to photograph.
I took with me the Tessar 40mm and the Jena Sonnar 4/135 (also aluminium).
Here's the shots with the Tessar 40:
Tessar 4.5/40 stopped down
Tessar 4.5/40 wide open
Tessar 4.5/40 wide open
Tessar 4.5/40 wide open
Camera used is the 5D. _________________ Orio, Administrator
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spkennedy3000
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Posted: Fri May 09, 2008 10:27 pm Post subject: |
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spkennedy3000 wrote:
2 is amazing - even on my crappy laptop. _________________ G2 21 28 45 90
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Orio
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Posted: Fri May 09, 2008 10:33 pm Post subject: |
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Orio wrote:
spkennedy3000 wrote: |
2 is amazing - even on my crappy laptop. |
I admit it: I am very impressed by this lens.
If you look at the bricks in #1, you can guess how clear the output is, even from such a small resize.
It is so easy to get muddy output from old wideangles.
Note:it's a 50s lens, probably uncoated, or at best, single coated. _________________ Orio, Administrator
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Attila
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Posted: Fri May 09, 2008 10:42 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
Impressive! _________________ -------------------------------
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Orio
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Posted: Fri May 09, 2008 10:43 pm Post subject: |
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Orio wrote:
Time now for another little champ, the Jena Sonnar 4/135 aluminium.
In my personal opinion, it is better than the later, multicoated 3.5/135.
It is sharp just the same, but the overall impression is rounder and less harsh than with the 3.5/135.
But I let you see:
Carl Zeiss Jena Sonnar 4/135 - wide open
Carl Zeiss Jena Sonnar 4/135 - stopped down
Carl Zeiss Jena Sonnar 4/135 - stopped down
Carl Zeiss Jena Sonnar 4/135 - slightly stopped down
Carl Zeiss Jena Sonnar 4/135 - stopped down
Carl Zeiss Jena Sonnar 4/135 - slightly stopped down
Carl Zeiss Jena Sonnar 4/135 - wide open
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Orio
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Posted: Fri May 09, 2008 10:44 pm Post subject: |
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Orio wrote:
Attila wrote: |
Impressive! |
It matches today's Leicas for image clarity - even wide open.
I am curious to make a head-to-head with my Elmarit-R 35 _________________ Orio, Administrator
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Attila
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Posted: Fri May 09, 2008 10:45 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
Good lens but not better than MC or zebra in my opinion. _________________ -------------------------------
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Orio
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Posted: Fri May 09, 2008 10:50 pm Post subject: |
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Orio wrote:
And to finish, yet another one from the Tessar 40:
Carl Zeiss Yena Tessar 4.5/40 - stopped down
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Katastrofo
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Posted: Fri May 09, 2008 10:54 pm Post subject: |
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Katastrofo wrote:
Both are excellent performers, really like that Tessar 40 (last pic)!
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Orio
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Posted: Fri May 09, 2008 10:58 pm Post subject: |
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Orio wrote:
Are you ready to have your jaw drop? _________________ Orio, Administrator
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esrods
Joined: 23 Sep 2007 Posts: 148 Location: Sydney Australia
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Posted: Fri May 09, 2008 11:14 pm Post subject: |
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esrods wrote:
Orio wrote: |
Time now for another little champ, the Jena Sonnar 4/135 aluminium.
In my personal opinion, it is better than the later, multicoated 3.5/135.
It is sharp just the same, but the overall impression is rounder and less harsh than with the 3.5/135. |
Nice photos as usual, Orio. Like the #7.
I've got the same lens recently and I could not tell the difference between this and MC version.
Wondered what zebra is like... then ..
Attila wrote: |
Good lens but not better than MC or zebra in my opinion. |
Okay, zebra is in my list now _________________ Edward Hwa Suck Shin
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Orio
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Posted: Fri May 09, 2008 11:18 pm Post subject: |
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Orio wrote:
Here's some 100% unsharpened crops from the first Tessar 40 picture:
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Orio
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Posted: Fri May 09, 2008 11:29 pm Post subject: |
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Orio wrote:
A crop from #3 of the Tessar 40 - note, it's wide open:
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Orio
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Posted: Fri May 09, 2008 11:33 pm Post subject: |
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Orio wrote:
A crop from #4 of the Tessar, again wide open:
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Orio
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Posted: Fri May 09, 2008 11:47 pm Post subject: |
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Orio wrote:
Attila wrote: |
Good lens but not better than MC or zebra in my opinion. |
For my personal standard, something more than a good lens.
Wide open:
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Katastrofo
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Posted: Sat May 10, 2008 1:12 am Post subject: |
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Katastrofo wrote:
yeah, that Tessar is a killer lens. Of the two, there was something about
the shots from that lens (first set) that really piqued my interest. Not to
say the Sonnar is a bad lens, oh no.
The second set from the Tessar, good God! |
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poilu
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Posted: Sat May 10, 2008 6:34 am Post subject: |
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poilu wrote:
wow! the 100% crop are more than impressive, and 40mm is a interesting focal even on crop dslr
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Orio
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Posted: Sat May 10, 2008 9:47 am Post subject: |
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Orio wrote:
poilu wrote: |
wow! the 100% crop are more than impressive, |
Amazing, eh?
I was speechless when I first saw them.
poilu wrote: |
and 40mm is a interesting focal even on crop dslr
how is the mechanical construction, is the aperture mechanism ok |
It's built like a tank, really. The aperture is of the continuous kind, and you can be sure that it will never break (I am a big fan of the continuous apertures).
It is solid metal, the Jena factory at the time was still building things like Zeiss should build. The cheap materials of later Jena lenses are a different thing. I think you may drop this one from a second floor and it still might work. _________________ Orio, Administrator
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Posted: Sat May 10, 2008 1:19 pm Post subject: |
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Schnauzer wrote:
Wow!!!! Great detail. _________________ Ron |
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Definitely amazing!!! _________________ Personal forum activity on pause every now and again (due to job obligations)!
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patrickh
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Posted: Sat May 10, 2008 8:36 pm Post subject: |
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patrickh wrote:
Orio
How do you find these gems? That Tessar is a definite classic - on to keep and use often. Those 100% samples!
patrickh _________________ DSLR: Nikon D300 Nikon D200 Nex 5N
MF Zooms: Kiron 28-85/3.5, 28-105/3.2, 75-150/3.5, Nikkor 50-135/3.5 AIS // MF Primes: Nikkor 20/4 AI, 24/2 AI, 28/2 AI, 28/2.8 AIS, 28/3.5 AI, 35/1.4 AIS, 35/2 AIS, 35/2.8 PC, 45/2.8 P, 50/1.4 AIS, 50/1.8 AIS, 50/2 AI, 55/2.8 AIS micro, 55/3.5 AI micro, 85/2 AI, 100/2,8 E, 105/1,8 AIS, 105/2,5 AIS, 135/2 AIS, 135/2.8 AIS, 200/4 AI, 200/4 AIS micro, 300/4.5 AI, 300/4.5 AI ED, Arsat 50/1.4, Kiron 28/2, Vivitar 28/2.5, Panagor 135/2.8, Tamron 28/2.5, Tamron 90/2.5 macro, Vivitar 90/2.5 macro (Tokina) Voigtlander 90/3.5 Vivitar 105/2.5 macro (Kiron) Kaleinar 100/2.8 AI Tamron 135/2.5, Vivitar 135/2.8CF, 200/3.5, Tokina 400/5,6
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Exakta: Topcon 100/2.8(M42), 35/2.8, 58/1.8, 135/2.8, 135/2.8 (M42), Kyoei Acall 135/3.5
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Minolta SR: 28/2.8, 28/3.5, 35/2.8, 45/2, 50/2, 58/1.4, 50/1.7, 135/2.8, 200/3.5
RF: Industar 53/2.8, Jupiter 8 50/2
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Orio
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Posted: Sat May 10, 2008 9:53 pm Post subject: |
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Orio wrote:
patrickh wrote: |
Orio
How do you find these gems? That Tessar is a definite classic - on to keep and use often. Those 100% samples!
patrickh |
It's just luck, Patrick. _________________ Orio, Administrator
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Katastrofo
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Posted: Sat May 10, 2008 9:59 pm Post subject: |
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Katastrofo wrote:
Orio wrote: |
It's just luck, Patrick. |
Luck, huh? Well some of us are getting damn envious, Orio! |
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Orio
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Posted: Sat May 10, 2008 10:21 pm Post subject: |
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Orio wrote:
Katastrofo wrote: |
Orio wrote: |
It's just luck, Patrick. |
Luck, huh? Well some of us are getting damn envious, Orio! |
Really, it's luck. And of course, I follow this type of auctions constantly. That is how I could buy a Primagon 35mm for 15 Euros. The key is not to hurry and wait for a good occasion. I have paid this Tessar more, but, after I discovered what the 3.5/50 can do, I am really fond of these old Tessars. I too, however, pick lenses that are not fully exciting. The Tessar 2.8/50, for instance, is not as good as this lens... _________________ Orio, Administrator
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patrickh
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Posted: Sun May 11, 2008 5:35 am Post subject: |
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patrickh wrote:
I just took first shots with my Tessar 50/2,8 and was quite disappointed. Not a patch on the Pancolar.
patrickh _________________ DSLR: Nikon D300 Nikon D200 Nex 5N
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M42: Vivitar 28/2.5, Tamron 28/2.5, Formula5 28/2.8, Mamiya 28/2.8, Pentacon 29/2.8, Flektogon 35/2.4, Flektogon 35/2.8, Takumar 35/3.5, Curtagon 35/4, Takumar 50/1.4, Volna-6 50/2.8 macro, Mamiya 50/1.4, CZJ Pancolar 50/1,8, Oreston 50/1.8, Takumar 50/2, Industar 50/3.5, Sears 55/1.4, Helios 58/2, Jupiter 85/2, Helios 85/1.5, Takumar 105/2.8, Steinheil macro 105/4.5, Tamron 135/2.5, Jupiter 135/4, CZ 135/4, Steinheil Culminar 135/4,5, Jupiter 135/3.5, Takumar 135/3.5, Tair 135/2.8, Pentacon 135/2.8, CZ 135/2.8, Taika 135/3.5, Takumar 150/4, Jupiter 200/4, Takumar 200/4
Exakta: Topcon 100/2.8(M42), 35/2.8, 58/1.8, 135/2.8, 135/2.8 (M42), Kyoei Acall 135/3.5
C/Y: Yashica 28/2.8, 50/1.7, 135/2.8, Zeiss Planar 50/1.4, Distagon 25/2.8
Hexanon: 28/3.5, 35/2.8, 40/1.8, 50/1.7, 52/1.8, 135/3.2, 135/3.5, 35-70/3.5, 200/3.5
P6 : Mir 38 65/3.5, Biometar 80/2.8, Kaleinar 150/2.8, Sonnar 180/2.8
Minolta SR: 28/2.8, 28/3.5, 35/2.8, 45/2, 50/2, 58/1.4, 50/1.7, 135/2.8, 200/3.5
RF: Industar 53/2.8, Jupiter 8 50/2
Enlarg: Rodagon 50/5,6, 80/5,6, 105/5.6, Vario 44-52/4, 150/5.6 180/5.6 El Nikkor 50/2,8,63/2.8,75/4, 80/5,6, 105/5.6, 135/5.6 Schneider 60/5.6, 80/5.6, 80/4S,100/5.6S,105/5.6,135/5.6, 135/5.6S, 150/5.6S, Leica 95/4 |
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