new 'serious' travel zoom compact

kuuan · Expire: 2014-12-26

20MP 1" CMOS sensor ( 1" sensor size, a reminder:
http://4.s.img-dpreview.com/previews/Sony-DSC-RX100/images/Sensor-Sizes.png?v=1508 )

f1.8-4.9 28-100mm equivalent lens
image stabilization
Raw
can shoot 1080p60 and capture 17MP (16:9 crop) stills simultaneously

http://www.dpreview.com/previews/sony-dsc-rx100/

SonicScot · Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2012 9:17 am Post subject:

I was just reading about that, it looks a good camera if you like that kind of thing.

poilu · Expire: 2019-08-29

the phone nokia 808 have an 1/1.2" sensor and 41MP, and it can phone

SonicScot · Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2012 10:04 am Post subject:

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SonicScot · Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2012 10:47 am Post subject:

Well the Nokia is some piece of kit! Very Happy

It has all the bells and whistles one could ask for and lots of big numbers to show how capable it is, so I can't knock it.
But, from a camera point of view, it all boils down to two things;
The quality of the image sensor and the quality of the glass in front of it. Very Happy

Orio · Expire: 2012-12-04

From the camera point of view, I would never buy a camera that has a similar performance to that of a cell phone.
Either I would buy a real camera, or I'd buy a cell phone that is more versatile and means carrying one technotool in my pocket instead of two.
(and save money - because I would not have to buy a cell phone extra)

ChromaticAberration · Joined: 23 Dec 2010 Posts: 819 Location: Portugal

This is just too much and I do not see the need for this sensor size. I mean, I get the point of having the APS-C concept, not everyone can spend thousands on a fullframe body. Micro 4/3 reduced the crop-sensor body and made it much portable.

1"? Why?

Sirrith · Joined: 17 Sep 2010 Posts: 215 Location: Hong Kong

1" because the camera itself is around the same size as other compacts that have 1/2.3 and 1/1.7, but the sensor is 1", thus it will have better noise performance, it will sound better in comparisons, and it will be more attractive to all, thus selling more. M4/3 may have reduced form factor coming from DSLRs, but I got rid of mine because it was still too big as a camera to have with you all the time; it doesn't fit in trouser pockets, meaning you need a bag, if you're carrying a bag, might as well carry a DSLR. The larger the sensor they manage to fit in compacts, the better I say.

And compacts have far better performance than cell phones at the moment, Orio Smile

(with the possible exception of the nokia, but that's really a camera with a phone attached, and it doesn't have zoom or any form of useful manual controls to speak of). If a camera can take a photo like this, wouldn't you call it a "real" camera?:

Olivier · Expire: 2015-08-06

Pontus · Expire: 2016-08-25

The new Nokia camera will be a game changer. It won' be a threat to us mfl freaks, advanced amateurs or the pros but the man on the street won't see a reason to buy a PS camera when (and that's next year) a Nokia Phone with WP8 in combination with the new camera module starts selling to the masses.

And I'm not trolling, just wait and see.

kansalliskala · Expire: 2016-12-30

"APS-C (Standard)"

&/%# &(/&# Evil or Very Mad

kansalliskala · Expire: 2016-12-30

LucisPictor · Expire: 2013-12-03

I think it's a pretty interesting cam, but in order to win some parts of the cake, it needs to be cheaper than comparable system cams!

ManualFocus-G · Expire: 2014-11-24

Aanything · Expire: 2014-05-30

I Don't see all that difference (on paper) between this and some respected cameras like Fuji x10, and the price is in the same league as well.
So it doesn't really look that new or strange.
Neither I have ever read of an x10 compared to a mobile phone.

It costs, but if money were not a problem ( Laughing

) I'd possibly think of it as a second camera alternative to my hypotetic full frame dslr.

Sirrith · Joined: 17 Sep 2010 Posts: 215 Location: Hong Kong

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