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PostPosted: Mon Sep 09, 2013 9:09 am    Post subject: New Olympus flagship Reply with quote
http://special.olympus.eu/s/coming-soon/?olycmp=omdglt
Seems a professional grade build quality. For the 4/3 shooters .


PostPosted: Mon Sep 09, 2013 9:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Well, a pro grade camera from Oly would be exciting if they put a pro sized sensor in it, but if it's M4/3, then I don't see any pros being interested.


PostPosted: Mon Sep 09, 2013 12:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Wrong Ian even E-1 was very popular at wedding photographers , certainly for wedding photos with AF lenses , perfectly fine.


PostPosted: Mon Sep 09, 2013 12:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
I suppose it depends on the price, but it is hard to see how a M4/3 camera could compete, for instance, with the 24 and 36mp Nikon FF cameras, those have been a big hit with wedding shooters. I'm trying to think of a unique feature that Oly might include that would attract pros, maybe they have some new technology they are going to debut with this 'pro' camera?


PostPosted: Mon Sep 09, 2013 12:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Matter of price and origin, if a pro wedding shooter was Olympus shooter in all his life, he will not change to Nikon , Canon , simple lenses keep him on brand and they are like it.


PostPosted: Mon Sep 09, 2013 1:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Oly has the best image stabilization. I don't know if that's a fancy feature for pros


PostPosted: Mon Sep 09, 2013 1:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
mzzyhmd wrote:
Oly has the best image stabilization. I don't know if that's a fancy feature for pros


A pro would not risk hand-blurred shots in a wedding, he would stay safe with shutter time and boost ISO or use flash instead.


PostPosted: Mon Sep 09, 2013 2:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Orio wrote:
mzzyhmd wrote:
Oly has the best image stabilization. I don't know if that's a fancy feature for pros


A pro would not risk hand-blurred shots in a wedding, he would stay safe with shutter time and boost ISO or use flash instead.


Surely that means a full frame camera, with it's inherently better low light performance is always going to be the pro's choice?

Are there any pro level lenses for M4/3? Maybe Olympus plan to release a whole system, not just a new 'pro' camera?


PostPosted: Mon Sep 09, 2013 2:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
iangreenhalgh1 wrote:
Orio wrote:
mzzyhmd wrote:
Oly has the best image stabilization. I don't know if that's a fancy feature for pros


A pro would not risk hand-blurred shots in a wedding, he would stay safe with shutter time and boost ISO or use flash instead.


Surely that means a full frame camera, with it's inherently better low light performance is always going to be the pro's choice?

Are there any pro level lenses for M4/3? Maybe Olympus plan to release a whole system, not just a new 'pro' camera?
Considering low-light. APS-C is no better IMHO. I have seen a lot of images side-by-side from OLY and NEX. Oly always has the edge. Which is why I am parting with my NEX. I don't know what you mean by pro grade lens. Care to give me some characteristics of a pro lens?


PostPosted: Mon Sep 09, 2013 2:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
iangreenhalgh1 wrote:
Orio wrote:
mzzyhmd wrote:
Oly has the best image stabilization. I don't know if that's a fancy feature for pros


A pro would not risk hand-blurred shots in a wedding, he would stay safe with shutter time and boost ISO or use flash instead.


Surely that means a full frame camera, with it's inherently better low light performance is always going to be the pro's choice?

Are there any pro level lenses for M4/3? Maybe Olympus plan to release a whole system, not just a new 'pro' camera?


IQ-wise yes, but those are primes, and pros tend to favor fast zooms. 4/3 though had a load of pro glass. Old Oly shooters were clamoring for a camera with modern sensor that could take those lenses and AF them fast. Perhaps this is that camera.


PostPosted: Mon Sep 09, 2013 2:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
fermy wrote:
iangreenhalgh1 wrote:
Orio wrote:
mzzyhmd wrote:
Oly has the best image stabilization. I don't know if that's a fancy feature for pros


A pro would not risk hand-blurred shots in a wedding, he would stay safe with shutter time and boost ISO or use flash instead.


Surely that means a full frame camera, with it's inherently better low light performance is always going to be the pro's choice?

Are there any pro level lenses for M4/3? Maybe Olympus plan to release a whole system, not just a new 'pro' camera?


IQ-wise yes, but those are primes, and pros tend to favor fast zooms. 4/3 though had a load of pro glass. Old Oly shooters were clamoring for a camera with modern sensor that could take those lenses and AF them fast. Perhaps this is that camera.


That's interesting, so maybe this is going to be a M4/3 camera bundled with a 4/3 adapter to allow use of those old pro lenses.

As for Oly M4/3 beating NEX in low light, I'm not buying that at all. The Oly has the advantage of the IS system though.


PostPosted: Mon Sep 09, 2013 3:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
But now that Sony has bought over a lot of the share from Olympus, not too sure what to expect though.


PostPosted: Mon Sep 09, 2013 3:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
I didn't say oly is better in low-light situations I said it's the same. When I am needing a fast, quality and wide glass I have two options CZ Sonnar 24mm and Touit which aren't that great as Panny-Leica 25mm, of course in every aspect, including the price. Yeah, I know there are manual lenses for that purpose. But I'd still want some native mount quality glasses just to get the best out of the camera. That said, MFT's glass line up is light-years ahead and mature than NEX. And the low-light hdr shooting (multiple exposures) in NEX is terrible. Where oly has better bracketing, live view for long exposure and etc. Also the 100-300mm panny is just great. For telephone, I'd love MFT as it has the 2X crop factor. Also the IS makes the telephoto lens handling a breeze. I know for indoor shooting pro can use lights and etc but not when you're using a huge telephoto.


PostPosted: Mon Sep 09, 2013 5:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
What ever M4/3 lovers say under the same technology rules no 4/3 sensor can beat a fullframe sensor or for that matter a APS-C ,they can come close but can never be better!!! and only old Oly Lens owners might buy it but people who already have Fullframe lenses or thinking of upgrading to fullframe wont buy it!!!And mainly Pros buy Fullframe cameras,cause they earn MONEY using it ,not like us bunch,I dont know how many are pros among us but i dont think many!!! No offence to 4/3 lovers!!! Moreover Sony buying shares in Olympus and getting their IBIS technology is just a first step ,soonenough there will be sharing of sensor tech ,more over Sony making sensors for Pentax ,Nikon is nothing new ,So after a while size of the sensor will only matter cause Larger sensor = maroe dof at same focal length, most companies will have shared technologies!!! Only canon is not yet known to share Tech ,but the way canon is making dslrs with 5 year old sensors ,i dont think they r doing any research!!! So soon enough they will also have to share( I hope Not)!!! So its quite like brands of the same company ,either You drink Cocacola or Fanta!!


PostPosted: Mon Sep 09, 2013 6:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
raay04 wrote:
What ever M4/3 lovers say under the same technology rules no 4/3 sensor can beat a fullframe sensor or for that matter a APS-C ,they can come close but can never be better!!! and only old Oly Lens owners might buy it but people who already have Fullframe lenses or thinking of upgrading to fullframe wont buy it!!!And mainly Pros buy Fullframe cameras,cause they earn MONEY using it ,not like us bunch,I dont know how many are pros among us but i dont think many!!! No offence to 4/3 lovers!!! Moreover Sony buying shares in Olympus and getting their IBIS technology is just a first step ,soonenough there will be sharing of sensor tech ,more over Sony making sensors for Pentax ,Nikon is nothing new ,So after a while size of the sensor will only matter cause Larger sensor = maroe dof at same focal length, most companies will have shared technologies!!! Only canon is not yet known to share Tech ,but the way canon is making dslrs with 5 year old sensors ,i dont think they r doing any research!!! So soon enough they will also have to share( I hope Not)!!! So its quite like brands of the same company ,either You drink Cocacola or Fanta!!
No one is comparing that with FF FYI. In fact, no one is comparing at all. I was just saying 1.5X and 2X sensor isn't much different. Similarly, I believe oly 4/3 cameras render better looking picture than NEX.

This is what I was exactly trying to say

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The OM-D is a much better choice above the NEX-6 in my opinion. The only reason why anyone would choose the NEX6 over the OM-D is the built-in flash, the APS-C sensor size, and its WiFi/Apps capability. But even having a smaller sensor than the NEX-6, the OM-D produces better images, I did my comparisons and am clearly convinced that the OM-D is the better camera.

Do I think it can replace a DSLR for outdoor portraits? Yes, I think it can, though you will need to buy a good flash and/or a fast portrait lens. The OM-D is an awesome camera outdoors, I recently bought the Zuiko 75mm F1.8 lens and it is PERFECT for outdoor and indoor portraits (though it's expensive). The images that I get with that combo have a professional look that is just as good as my 5Dmk3 combined with a Zeiss 85mm F1.4, believe me! The one gripe I have with the OM-D (as EZRyder mentioned) is the lack of a built-in flash, I really do not like the snap-on flash that comes with the OM-D, I never use it. But I will eventually give in and buy a bulky flash to get shots of the baby running around indoors. That is one thing I really liked about the NEX-6, the built-in flash is great, has plenty of juice for indoor shots, and you can bounce it of the ceiling for a more natural look.


http://www.amazon.com/review/R30R8RXJTZ8ZHC/ref=cm_cr_pr_viewpnt#R30R8RXJTZ8ZHC

Overall, the way OMD works it makes it a smarter choice for enthusiasts not pros obvs.[/url]


PostPosted: Mon Sep 09, 2013 7:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
please make price a concern also ,Lowest end NEX is much better in high ISO than lowest end m4/3, u cant compare OMD with Nex 6 ,see the price difference ,the extra price must mean something!!!
More over its no problem when people use OEM lenses but for people using Mf lenses crop factor matters!!!


PostPosted: Mon Sep 09, 2013 8:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
raay04 wrote:
please make price a concern also ,Lowest end NEX is much better in high ISO than lowest end m4/3, u cant compare OMD with Nex 6 ,see the price difference ,the extra price must mean something!!!
More over its no problem when people use OEM lenses but for people using Mf lenses crop factor matters!!!


you sure love your exclamation marks(!!!)

question: how often you really use high ISO in your shoots?

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 09, 2013 8:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
iangreenhalgh1 wrote:
Are there any pro level lenses for M4/3? Maybe Olympus plan to release a whole system, not just a new 'pro' camera?


with E-M1 as a kit lens will be new 12-40mm/2.8 lens with designation PRO, also will be introduced 40-150mm/2.8 that will come out in 2014. both lenses will be weathersealed, 12-40mm/2.8 has minimum focusing distance of 20cm throughout the range, has MSC silent (as silent as zoom can be) zooming for use in video... more details tomorrow morning


PostPosted: Tue Sep 10, 2013 1:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
raay04 wrote:
please make price a concern also ,Lowest end NEX is much better in high ISO than lowest end m4/3, u cant compare OMD with Nex 6 ,see the price difference ,the extra price must mean something!!!
More over its no problem when people use OEM lenses but for people using Mf lenses crop factor matters!!!
sure let's get the NEX 7 in the picture instead (similar price point). even worse than 6. please see iso performance difference of 6 vs 7 you will see what I am talking about. my 6 year old 5DC has that bracketing mode that poor doesn't have. you can't bracket and use the self-timer. why crop factor matters only for manual lenses? any branded including the native brand would have the same crop factor. native mount 24mm CZ sonnar will still have 1.5X crop factor like any other manual lens does. yes extra price means a lot more customizations and neat yet valuable options.

Also regarding the NEX 7 I really don't see any positive other than the pixel count. It's ergonomics and all other things are shabbier than its sister model nex 6. I just don't understand why would anyone pay that much for 24mp when they can have it on a much cheaper and better nikon d3200 body. That's just my opinion. Sorry if I got carried away. But I have been overly frustrated after using nex 6 and 7 for last one year.


PostPosted: Tue Sep 10, 2013 2:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
LOl, all this NEX bashing is amusing. There are a lot of reasons why someone might chose a NEX over a Nikon, most obviously, you can put just about any lens on a NEX.

There's an old saying 'a bad workman blames his tools'. There's nothing wrong with the NEX if you use it well.

At the end of the day, all the modern cameras are good and create good images in the right hands, so let's not get carried away with bashing any in particular.


PostPosted: Tue Sep 10, 2013 5:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
It is official now, the new Olympus Pro body is known as OM-D E-M1.

Pro body because beside dust proof, splash proof it is now also freeze proof (guarantee till -14 degree F)

Check it out at: http://www.dpreview.com/news/2013/09/10/olympus-blends-e-m5-and-e-5-to-create-om-d-e-m1-flagship-interchangeable-lens-camera?utm_campaign=internal-link&utm_source=news-list&utm_medium=text&ref=title_0_1


PostPosted: Tue Sep 10, 2013 5:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
So it's weatherproof, go a bigger EVF, a faster AF system and there's a new range of pro lenses.

However, it's still a 16mp 4/3 sensor, so I'm highly dubious it can come close to a FF camera.

It does look like a nice camera indeed, but the most important bit - the sensor, looks very sub-standard compared to the 24 and 36mp Nikon FF. It's got a quarter of the sensor area and that makes a big difference in several key regards.

I'm sure it will be a very good camera capable of excellent images. But I just don't see it appealing to pros. I can't see any advantage this camera has over the competition in the pro sector, other than smaller size and smaller price tag and those are not factors that will matter to most pros I think.


PostPosted: Tue Sep 10, 2013 6:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
first part of robin wong's review of E-M1 with high ISO samples
http://robinwong.blogspot.com/2013/09/olympus-om-d-e-m1-review-introduction.html

Ming Thein's review
http://blog.mingthein.com/2013/09/


PostPosted: Tue Sep 10, 2013 7:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Interesting discussion at Steve Huff's site:

http://www.stevehuffphoto.com/2013/08/18/the-olympus-om-d-e-m1-the-king-of-micro-43/

Seems that the attractive points are the smaller size and cheaper price than a FF DSLR, from people's comments, it seems there is a market for something much smaller and lighter than a pro FF DSLR. Huff keeps making the point that great glass for the m4/3 platform is a lot cheaper than great glass for a FF DSLR.


PostPosted: Tue Sep 10, 2013 9:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
This whole "need" for smaller and smaller cameras that become progressively awkwarder and more inefficient to operate with a normal sized man's hands completely escapes me Confused Rolling Eyes
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