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Russ wrote:
These snaps were recently shot on Neopan 400CN film (C-41 B/W). Straight scans from the negatives, no post processing. Kiron 70-150 lens with #2 black Softnet filter.
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poilu wrote:
superb portraits, nice bokeh of Kiron zoom |
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Nesster wrote:
That's good film, the skin tones are extremely well rendered. I don't think this film's available in the US through normal channels, a pity.
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LucisPictor wrote:
Great shots indeed! And beautiful models!
#1: The baby's face in the first shot is fantastic!! And then this tender kiss. Very nice. The lady resembles Sigourney Weaver a little.
#2: amazing 3D-effect. 
#3: very pretty
#4: also very pretty
#5: The facial expression is amazing! Is she surprised?
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Excalibur wrote:
Looks like the film is very good, also you can't go wrong with the Kiron/vivitar 70-150mm esp for what you pay for them.
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Katastrofo wrote:
I think Russ mentioned he gets bricks of this film from sumbuddy in the
UK. Ilford and Fuji jointly developed this film and Ilford's XP-2 is quite
similar, (according to Russ).
Great set, Russ, I hope no animals were hurt taking these, would ruin my
enjoyment if I knew anyhoo, really like the focusing in that 3-D pic
Carsten commented on. Thanks for sharing some PNW pulchritude. |
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| Posted: Mon Feb 01, 2010 9:54 pm Post subject: Comparison of Neopan 400CN to Kodak and Ilford C41 film? |
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jmiro wrote:
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These snaps were recently shot on Neopan 400CN film (C-41 B/W). Straight scans from the negatives, no post processing. Kiron 70-150 lens with #2 black Softnet filter.
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As far as I know, Fuji Neopan 400 CN was never sold in the USA. When it came about 7 years ago, Ilford said it was based on XP-2 Super and was codeveloped by Ilford and Fuji.
Each of the current C41 B&W films is rated at a base ISO 400. I know through experience the different properties of the Kodak and Ilford B&W C41 films. Can Russ or someone else compare the Neopan 400CN to either or both of the others? I have been unable to find any comparisons online.
The point of all of this is to see if it is worthwhile to import the Neopan from the UK. |
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Russ wrote:
Myself and many other's would love to see it imported into the States. The Neopan 400CN also seems to be a bit faster than the excellent Ilford XP-2. Both give very nice results. I've always been disappointed with the Kodak C-41 B/W process films.
Neopan 400CN with orange filter. No post processing. Straight scan from negative.
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Orio wrote:
I somehow missed this thread.
#1 is priceless - great picture.
#3 a lovely joyful portrait, she's so bright
however I must admit my human side and confess that #2 gets the most hits of my views 
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F16SUNSHINE wrote:
All look great but I love the pic most. Her slightly crooked smile reminds me of my future ex-girlfriend
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fish4570 wrote:
mom and baby is my favorite. i'd also love to get hold of some competing c-41 bw film. fuji sells color here. why not neopan?
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Katastrofo wrote:
The one thing to consider is that the Fuji and Ilford films lack the orange
mask of the Kodak variety so the drug store places can't scan it. Russ
has all his work professionally scanned at a specialty boutique place
where they then download the files to his online account. |
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fish4570 wrote:
well, there you go ...
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Russ wrote:
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The one thing to consider is that the Fuji and Ilford films lack the orange
mask of the Kodak variety so the drug store places can't scan it. Russ
has all his work professionally scanned at a specialty boutique place
where they then download the files to his online account. |
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I sometimes do have my local drug store or one hour photo joint develop and scan my Neopan 400CN. But, my "pro" lab gives me much better quality. "Boutique place"? Hardly, but it is a quality pro lab that does put the high res scans on-line for me after souping them.
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Katastrofo wrote:
Russ, I haven't found a drugstore in Huntsville that will scan my XP-2. I'd
have to go clear across town to the ma and pa place to have it done.
When you were describing the place on the phone, I had this vision of
you sitting in a leather club chair, sipping chilled beakers of Absolut
while they developed and scanned your film. Silly me.  I forgot
you're a beer drinker. |
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Russ wrote:
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Russ, I haven't found a drugstore in Huntsville that will scan my XP-2. I'd
have to go clear across town to the ma and pa place to have it done.
When you were describing the place on the phone, I had this vision of
you sitting in a leather club chair, sipping chilled beakers of Absolut
while they developed and scanned your film. Silly me. I forgot
you're a beer drinker. |
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Why won't anyone over there soup your XP-2? It's just standard C-41 process film. Yes, I do relax in a smoking jacket in a leather chair while I await my film processing. But, I always imbibe in single malt Scotch during the process. "Absolut"? You think I'd stoop so low as to swill that crap? Belvedere is the Vodka of choice. I'll obviously be bringing my "focusing fluid" when I come out to visit and show you the ways of the true snapper.
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Katastrofo wrote:
Nice shot! Russ, I wasn't clear, they can develop the film, they just can't
scan it since it doesn't have the orange mask like the Kodak stuff. And
they are not allowed to change the settings, like the ma and pa place
can.
They still make that "Hood River" swill? I got so sick on that crap that
I swore off vodka :wodka makes me womit. lol |
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Russ wrote:
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Nice shot! Russ, I wasn't clear, they can develop the film, they just can't
scan it since it doesn't have the orange mask like the Kodak stuff. And
they are not allowed to change the settings, like the ma and pa place
can.
They still make that "Hood River" swill? I got so sick on that crap that
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Tell them to change the setting. It's just the push of a button. "Hood River swill"? All you Bama boys such lightweights?
Delta 100 snap
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Katastrofo wrote:
Funny you should post a Delta 100 snap (did you do your own developing?) as I dev'd a roll from my 1937 Bessa RF 6x9, this is wide open at f3.5. With a cheap flatbed scanner, I should stick to medium format:
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Russ wrote:
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Funny you should post a Delta 100 snap (did you do your own developing?) as I dev'd a roll from my 1937 Bessa RF 6x9, this is wide open at f3.5. With a cheap flatbed scanner, I should stick to medium format:
Thornton's 2-Bath homebrew 4 mins each at 20C, Delta 100 |
Why stick to medium format? All formats are useful. Modern lenses and scanning technology will deliver superb results from just about any format.
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Katastrofo wrote:
You're right of course, I like my 35mm RFs , Exakta SLRs, Konica, too
much to leave them alone. I'll just have the drug stores do the color
35mm, and haul the BW negs across town for scanning. |
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fish4570 wrote:
bill, i like the way you think in medium format. maybe it slows (intensifies?) your editing process ...
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Katastrofo wrote:
Paul, thanks, with 6x9 and 120 film you only have 8 shots, so it does
slow you down and make you think before shooting. I found using the
Nikon F4s I reverted back to my DSLR days and would burn through a
36exp roll filled with crap shots (no, I'm not Russ who probably shoots
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F16SUNSHINE wrote:
I have always loved this one Russ.
Care to let us in on the film and possible filters you used?
It looks like IR but maybe with a low NM filter (R25 or so?).
Nice!
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