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PostPosted: Fri Jun 14, 2024 12:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
visualopsins wrote:

@alex_ph Notice how in this thread you return here almost exactly the same time each year since 2021? Smile A Springtime cycle for you and mflenses?


Haha, nice hit! I might substitute the inevitable spring madness with raising mflenses activities. At the end it is less destructive!

In fact, I observe some growing activities in the forum as the winter ends, and this pushes me to draw the line of photographic year. I am recently a less regular contributing member due to job precarity.


PostPosted: Wed Jun 19, 2024 9:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
alex_d wrote:
wait .. what ?
...
well when i was still on the film, a good friend photographer got a new cutting edge Fuji Pro s1.

Imagine 6mb, being a pro & selling pics for print.


Back in the early 2000s I was using the Nikon D1.
A mere 2.7 MP, but an incredibly nice body. No problem to get good A4 sized portrait prints! Portraits often were looking better than the corresponding prints made from slide film ...

S


PostPosted: Fri Jun 21, 2024 12:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
stevemark wrote:
alex_d wrote:
wait .. what ?
...
well when i was still on the film, a good friend photographer got a new cutting edge Fuji Pro s1.

Imagine 6mb, being a pro & selling pics for print.


Back in the early 2000s I was using the Nikon D1.
A mere 2.7 MP, but an incredibly nice body. No problem to get good A4 sized portrait prints! Portraits often were looking better than the corresponding prints made from slide film ...

S


.. how much MB's we need actually..?

I was suspicious of Fuji for a while, but now I'm sure they are just printing new models,
and everything is based on the same internals, more or less, and the same algorithm.

From time to time, they bring a new 'film sim' - imagine that!
And you pay a few hundred extra as an upgrade from the previous model - that is more or less the same as older mod.

So to get back on MB, most 'photographers' have much more than they can use,
and they are still complaining about something (lack of MS's..).

When people are consumers, they are mostly scammed 99%.


PostPosted: Fri Jun 21, 2024 7:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
alex_d wrote:
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When people are consumers, they are mostly scammed 99%.


98%. I like to believe there is some hope... Wink

I can recommend the classic read of "The Hidden Persuaders" by Vance Packard. I am tempted to re-read it myself.

The publisher wrote:
A classic examination of how our thoughts and feelings are manipulated by business, media and politicians, The Hidden Persuaders was the first book to expose the hidden world of “motivation research,” the psychological technique that advertisers use to probe our minds in order to control our actions as consumers.


Bear in mind that the book was written before they discovered planned obsolescence of function could be exploited very effectively using software updates...; thing have gotten worse Sad


PostPosted: Sat Jun 22, 2024 6:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
RokkorDoctor wrote:
alex_d wrote:
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When people are consumers, they are mostly scammed 99%.


98%. I like to believe there is some hope... Wink


no there isn't any of it left ..

there is a hope and there are some substances to replace the sour taste as drugs soft and hard, alcohol, different hallucinogens, ... and such


RokkorDoctor wrote:


I can recommend the classic read of "The Hidden Persuaders" by Vance Packard. I am tempted to re-read it myself.


nice thanx, i know this from many many moons ago and is a good recommendation to read it again


PostPosted: Sat Jun 22, 2024 7:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
According to "mythology", Hope remains at the bottom of Pandora's box after the rest has flown out...i.e. Hope is never lost!

I think I remember that book from Mass Media class in 1970 (high school).


PostPosted: Sat Jun 22, 2024 9:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
alex_d wrote:
RokkorDoctor wrote:
alex_d wrote:
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When people are consumers, they are mostly scammed 99%.


98%. I like to believe there is some hope... Wink


no there isn't any of it left ..

there is a hope and there are some substances to replace the sour taste as drugs soft and hard, alcohol, different hallucinogens, ... and such


Music; try music! Much better for the soul (and body) Wink


PostPosted: Sat Jun 22, 2024 4:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
RokkorDoctor wrote:


there is a hope and there are some substances to replace the sour taste as drugs soft and hard, alcohol, different hallucinogens, ... and such


Music; try music! Much better for the soul (and body) Wink


Smile


PostPosted: Mon Jun 24, 2024 5:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Forums of all shapes and forms seem to be in decline....sadly.


PostPosted: Wed Jun 26, 2024 7:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
DaveNJ wrote:
Forums of all shapes and forms seem to be in decline....sadly.


Agreed. I suspect it's an effect if Facebook, Twitter etc coupled with the slow reduction in the number of people who grew up with user groups, chat rooms and the like.

Much as the mobile phone has taken over the camera for the vast majority (and let's face it a mobile more often than not will get a photo that usable on social media) social media has replaced to forum. Part of the reason is I suspect that social media allows a single contact point for multiple areas if interest. No logging onto multiple web pages, be learning the vagaries of each forum software and realtime notifications across all interests.

Is it a good thing? Personally (being a gentleman of a certain age) I don't think so.


PostPosted: Wed Jun 26, 2024 7:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
There certainly is a lot of activity on certain facebook groups, and the possibility of reaching, or interacting with, more people. However, the content doesn't seem as searchable or as well stored, as the body of information found on a forum like this one. Most search engine searches still point to this website or one of the few others that also deal in camera gear from the past.


PostPosted: Thu Jun 27, 2024 6:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Personally, I have very little use for social media, and am missing the point a bit on blogging Razz

I actually prefer the bulletin board format- about as close to book-like as I am going to get, without an actual book.
Won't be going anywhere for a while yet...

-D.S.
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