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Orio
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Posted: Tue May 01, 2007 4:46 pm Post subject: Lens comparison: Nikkor 2/28 vs Distagon 2.8/28 |
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Orio wrote:
The newly grounded Nikkor 28mm suggested me to try it face to face with my main 28mm lens, the Distagon.
There is a full stop difference between the two (the Nikkor at f/2 is one stop faster), so I did not try any wide open related test such as bokeh test.
I tried instead a simple shot at f/8, to check the basic qualities for a wide angle: distortion, corner performance, sharpness and color, in order of importance.
The shots are taken hand-held and this alone sort of makes it subjective - I did not care to make a proper test, just a quick comparison (and this is why I call it comparison instead of test)
Amongst the nicest features of the 5D, there is the possibility of shooting at a fixed custom white balance. This is perfect for testing color, because it gets rid of the machine's decisions and presets.
So i set the color to 5500°K and left it there for both takes. This way, it is like shooting with the same roll of film: all color differences will depend on the lenses only.
And in fact the color results are the most surprising. The Zeiss lenses have a reputation for giving a warm tone to photographs. Here, instead, the Distagon shows a perfectly neutral tone. The Nikkor lens, instead, delivers an image with a decidedly warm tone. I am used to subtle differences in color rendition by different lenses, but here the difference is huge: with the same white balance, the two lenses deliver a remarkably different color tone. As for saturation, it looks similar for the two lenses, with perhaps a slight edge for the Nikkor lens (and it would be the first time that I meet a Nikkor lens that saturates more than a Zeiss); but we have not to forget that for the way we perceive the colors, a warm tone photograph seems always more saturated than a neutral balanced photograph. So in my opinion the saturation is in reality equivalent.
Here's the two images, much resized to fill onto the page, just to show the color tone difference. Distagon on the left, Nikkor on the right:
As for the other parameters:
- Distortion
The Nikkor performs remarkably well. It is true that the Distagon 2.8/28 is not famous to be the most corrected of Zeiss wideangles (it is worse, for instance, than the 2.8/35), but yet is a Zeiss, and for the Nikkor to hold the distortion comparison is already a great point!
To my eyes, the Nikkor shows perhaps a tiny bit more barrel thing. visible especially on the building at left; but overall I would say that the two lenses are very close for distortion, and both deliver a good enough architectural image
- Corner performance
Here of course I would have to test the lenses wide open, but as I said, i have opted for a f/8 test because the lenses have different speed.
However, even at f/8 there is an evident difference in the corner performance, the Distagon being remarkably sharper and without vignetting, while the Nikkor lens is softer and even at f/8, it still shows a bit of vignetting.
- Overall sharpness
In all areas of the f/8 frame, the Distagon is sharpen than the Nikkor lens, without really a question. We must note however that the Distagon is a lens of the mid-late seventies, while the Nikkor here is a lens of the Sixties. So it pays the tribute to the age and the different quality standards of its time.
I will post some image samples for corner performance and sharpness, later.
For now I would like to conclude that although the Distagon is clearly a superior lens, the Nikkor still holds out decently (if not well in some aspects). The used price difference between the lenses in mint condition is of about 50 Euros. So in that case I would say that it will pay to fork out the extra 50 and get the Distagon.
However, you sometimes find Nikkor 2/28 copies in much used condition and these can go for pretty little. My copy shows much wear outside, but it has good glasses. I paid for it less than half of what I paid for the Distagon, which however is in mint condition.
So if you meet a worn out Nikkor with good glass, you can make a bargain. Else, it would not make much sense in my opinion to spend Eur 130-150 for a mint Nikkor when you can get a mint Distagon for 180-200. _________________ Orio, Administrator
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LucisPictor
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Posted: Tue May 01, 2007 5:37 pm Post subject: |
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LucisPictor wrote:
Thanks for this interesting comparison, Orio!
BTW, are you feeling better? (Hay fever)
It does not surprise me that the Nikkor is pretty close at the Zeiss lens.
Nikkor has a tradition of producing excellent lenses.
And my Nikkor-QC 3.5/135 is at least one of my best 135mm lenses, if not the best one. It fights for this trophy with the Jupiter-37A, closely followed by the CZJ 4/135, the Pentacon 2.8/135 and (surprise) the Weltblick 3.5/135.
What we also have to consider is that a Nikon user will probably think differently about how much money this Nikkor is worth.
He will be glad to get such a nice and fast lens. One f-stop is a considerable step, the wider the lens the more difference it makes.
Anyway, interesting comparison, entertaining text! Thanks. _________________ Personal forum activity on pause every now and again (due to job obligations)!
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Orio
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Posted: Tue May 01, 2007 6:17 pm Post subject: |
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Orio wrote:
LucisPictor wrote: |
Thanks for this interesting comparison, Orio! |
You're welcome. Wish I could have the time to make more, and better ones.
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BTW, are you feeling better? (Hay fever) |
No, today my friends had a big barbecue at my partner's sister farm. They were all there, but I could not go, I had to pass the 1st of May here all alone barricated in my house
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It does not surprise me that the Nikkor is pretty close at the Zeiss lens.
Nikkor has a tradition of producing excellent lenses. |
Well, it holds out well for distortion. But in other areas it is clearly weaker, as you will see. I am going to post more samples.
It is a nice lens. However if one has 50 spare euros I definitely recommend to add them and get the Distagon, even if it's slower.
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And my Nikkor-QC 3.5/135 is at least one of my best 135mm lenses, if not the best one. It fights for this trophy with the Jupiter-37A, closely followed by the CZJ 4/135, the Pentacon 2.8/135 and (surprise) the Weltblick 3.5/135 or the Greens London 3.5/135. |
I agree, I always found the Nikkor 3.5/135 to be amongst the best Nikkor lenses. Curiously, it is much snobbed by Nikoners, who prefer to spend much more on newer and (methinks) worse lenses.
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What we also have to consider is that a Nikon user will probably think differently about how much money this Nikkor is worth.
He will be glad to get such a nice and fast lens. One f-stop is a considerable step, the wider the lens the more difference it makes. |
Yes, there can be an use for a faster 28mm. This is why I will keep the lens. But honestly, I think that the Nikkor 2.8/28 is a better lens (I have not tried it, but I have the series E version, which is the same lens with a single coating instead of multi coating).
Anyway I will post more samples now. And maybe in the next days I will make a similar comparison between the Nikkors (2/28 and 2.8/28 series E).
Thanks for the nice words, at least it feels like this prisony 1st of May has been somehow useful _________________ Orio, Administrator
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Posted: Tue May 01, 2007 6:36 pm Post subject: |
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LucisPictor wrote:
Orio, I'm sorry to hear about your "prison".
Maybe you can find some comfort in the fact that I could not go on a daytrip either, since I had to work (I was correcting some student's tests).
So, although for different reason, we share the same "fate"... _________________ Personal forum activity on pause every now and again (due to job obligations)!
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Orio
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Posted: Tue May 01, 2007 6:40 pm Post subject: |
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Orio wrote:
LucisPictor wrote: |
Orio, I'm sorry to hear about your "prison".
Maybe you can find some comfort in the fact that I could not go on a daytrip either, since I had to work (I was correcting some student's tests).
So, although for different reason, we share the same "fate"... |
Ah so you are a teacher/professor?
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Posted: Tue May 01, 2007 6:43 pm Post subject: |
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Orio wrote:
Here's the 100% crops of the two right corners:
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Posted: Tue May 01, 2007 6:53 pm Post subject: |
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Orio wrote:
Centre crops, 100%:
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Oooh, they are not in same league! Man I am sad you destroyed Nikon image in my mind. _________________ -------------------------------
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Posted: Tue May 01, 2007 8:20 pm Post subject: |
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LucisPictor wrote:
Oh, these are somewhat surprising results.
I expected the Nikkor to be better (maybe not as good as the Zeiss, but closer than this)... _________________ Personal forum activity on pause every now and again (due to job obligations)!
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Orio
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Posted: Tue May 01, 2007 8:41 pm Post subject: |
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Orio wrote:
Well, Distagon is about the top of wideangle lenses, so it's not an easy comparison to stand.
on the other hand, several people reports that Nikon's 2.8/28 is a better lens than the 2/28.
I think that the Nikkor 2.8/28 would do better. Also, the comparison will be more appropriate between two lenses of the same speed.
EDIT: wanted to add that before, I tried the 2/28 with the 400D and didn't seem so problematic. But, 400D is a crop camera, so the corners were not the real corners.
This will become good as a memento. Never make definitive judgement on a lens after use on crop camera only. Always try it on full frame, either film or digital. _________________ Orio, Administrator
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Posted: Sun Jan 06, 2008 2:48 am Post subject: |
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ChrisLilley wrote:
And now there is a 28mm f/2.0 Distagon as well
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Orio wrote:
ChrisLilley wrote: |
And now there is a 28mm f/2.0 Distagon as well |
It's been there since the beginning of the Seventies.
The so called "Hollywood Distagon" is the last creature by Zeiss genius engineer Erhard Glatzel:
http://www.zeisshistorica.org/Glatzel.html
The lens was nicknamed "hollywood" because Glatzel derived the concept for the lens from a movie lens that Zeiss produced for the Arriflex film cameras.
The lens required huge calculations and at the time it was designed, it was impossible to make, because Glatzel planned the use of a glass with such extreme refraction index, that no factory at the time could produce!
The whole story of the Distagon Hollywood is wonderfully narrated by Marco Cavina in this article:
http://www.luciolepri.it/lc2/marcocavina/articoli_fotografici/Glatzel-2-28/00_pag.htm
The Distagon 2/28 was produced with Contarex mount (the first incarnation of the lens), and subsequently with Rolleiflex mount and Contax/Yashica mount. I own one copy of the Contax mount and it's one of my best lenses.
The ZF version of this lens, released one month ago, is not the original Glatzel scheme anymore, as a new glass element was added to the scheme, the optimist say because it brings further betterment (although it's difficult to say how the original model could be improved as it's nearly perfect), the less optimist say that the 10th element was added as a safety measure, to add extra correction to make up for the Cosina imprecisions in mounting the lens...
Whatever the reason, the new ZF version is probably the best buy because it is made for the Nikon mount, and this means less problems with an EOS adapter for both infinity focus and potential 5D mirror clearing issues.
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BobDodds wrote:
I love my Zeiss Distagon T* 28mm f2.8. Thank you for making 100% crops to show how sharp it is. What an ebay value lens it is, too. I adapted my CZ Contax Distagon 28/2.8 to Sigma SD14.
The Hollywood f2 always costs a lot more, but how does it compare to the f2.8? And you could do wide open comparisons with that Nikkor 28mm f2, if you had all the time in the world. Just an opinion, then? I have a Hollywood f2 but have not had time to convert it to SD14. I just got a depth gauge and measured today to make sure it would convert to SD14, and it will touch the ir-dust filter but the glass will clear by 0.1mm. That's as close it could be. I might grind 0.1mm off of the metal surrounding the glass, to spare the ir-dust filter glass. |
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Posted: Wed Mar 05, 2008 11:28 pm Post subject: |
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ChrisLilley wrote:
Orio wrote: |
Here's the 100% crops of the two right corners
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Ouch, thats like night and day - and the Nikkor is awful! Wide open that might be acceptable corner performance, but at f/8? _________________ Camera (ˈkæ mə rə), n. Device for taking pictures in bright light
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Orio, the differences are remarkable. On the antennae images, do you think some of that might be camera shake?
Overall, I am rather stunned at the differences. _________________
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This comparative review at 28mm seems to show the Nikkor 28mm f/2.8 AIS as consistently better than the Nikkor 28mm f/2. (text in Italian). Particularly with smeared edges, which relates to the findings in this thread, too.
The 'pro' zoom 17-35 also comes off rather poorly in that test. _________________ Camera (ˈkæ mə rə), n. Device for taking pictures in bright light
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Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2008 1:51 pm Post subject: Re: Lens comparison: Nikkor 2/28 vs Distagon 2.8/28 |
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ChrisLilley wrote:
Orio wrote: |
The newly grounded Nikkor 28mm suggested me to try it face to face with my main 28mm lens, the Distagon. |
What vintage of 28/2 is this - there were non-AI, AI and AI-S versions, and some versions had design changes during their lifetime. I checked on your lens list but there are no details (in fact its not listed). _________________ Camera (ˈkæ mə rə), n. Device for taking pictures in bright light
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Orio wrote:
Laurence wrote: |
Orio, the differences are remarkable. On the antennae images, do you think some of that might be camera shake? |
The centre frame does not show such problem, if it was camera shake then the whole image would be blurred. _________________ Orio, Administrator
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Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2008 2:39 pm Post subject: Re: Lens comparison: Nikkor 2/28 vs Distagon 2.8/28 |
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Orio wrote:
ChrisLilley wrote: |
What vintage of 28/2 is this - there were non-AI, AI and AI-S versions, and some versions had design changes during their lifetime. I checked on your lens list but there are no details (in fact its not listed). |
It is a Nikkor-N Auto with scalloped focusing ring.
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Orio wrote:
ChrisLilley wrote: |
This comparative review at 28mm seems to show the Nikkor 28mm f/2.8 AIS as consistently better than the Nikkor 28mm f/2. (text in Italian). Particularly with smeared edges, which relates to the findings in this thread, too.
The 'pro' zoom 17-35 also comes off rather poorly in that test. |
Yes, corners seem to be a weak point in the 2/28
Mine is older than the one used for the test.
My Nikkor-N 2/28 is not a sharp lens, but I like the output. It's a bit dreamy but it has a personality that comes out of moody subjects, and when sharpness is not the issue, it can be useful. I think for instance of marine landscapes, or churches, subjects where you like the picture to have a certain mood. _________________ Orio, Administrator
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Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2008 2:59 pm Post subject: Re: Lens comparison: Nikkor 2/28 vs Distagon 2.8/28 |
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ChrisLilley wrote:
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ChrisLilley wrote: |
What vintage of 28/2 is this - there were non-AI, AI and AI-S versions, and some versions had design changes during their lifetime. I checked on your lens list but there are no details (in fact its not listed). |
It is a Nikkor-N Auto with scalloped focusing ring.
I think it's pre-AI |
OK so this one. 9 elements in 8 groups, has NIC, no CRC.
Thanks for the clarification; your report had quite shocked me how bad the Nikkor was. Hopefully the later models (and the f/2.8) are better. _________________ Camera (ˈkæ mə rə), n. Device for taking pictures in bright light
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Attila
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Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2008 5:27 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
Later model Nikkor 28cm f2.8 close focus (20cm) has 5 star rating almost any review.My favorite is 24mm f2.8 AIS. _________________ -------------------------------
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mjkerpan
Joined: 15 Mar 2008 Posts: 56 Location: Boston, USA
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Posted: Sat Mar 15, 2008 2:33 am Post subject: |
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mjkerpan wrote:
ChrisLilley wrote: |
This comparative review at 28mm seems to show the Nikkor 28mm f/2.8 AIS as consistently better than the Nikkor 28mm f/2. (text in Italian). Particularly with smeared edges, which relates to the findings in this thread, too.
The 'pro' zoom 17-35 also comes off rather poorly in that test. |
No sign of my Series E 28mm f/2.8, though. I'd love to know how it stacks up. |
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DSG
Joined: 04 Mar 2007 Posts: 544 Location: London, UK.
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DSG wrote:
This does'nt supprise me at all...I actively sought after getting a 28/2.8 Distagon after seeing its MTF rating (4.3) , which is steller for a 28mm.
Finally tracked one down on ebay over two years ago for for £86.50, including the postage...More than I would have liked to pay but for the quality of this lens it was worth every penny. |
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